Has anyone changed their opinion of SSR?

[SaratogaShan]

boatboatboat has managed once again to take a thread completely off topic.....much to his satisfaction I'm sure. I would like to keep this thread alive and somewhat on topic because I really am interested in how opinions might change after actually staying at SSR.

Thanks for all the replies so far and just ignore "the boat", he's just a little "dinghey". LOL

 

[cobbler]

If the powers that be at DVC are reading this thread and feel that my post is helping SSR sales, I would be willing to compare bedspreads for a payment of a 150 point contract.

Please please put up a bedspread compairson!! I just about feel over with the couch one. It was good

 

[boatboatboat]

boatboatboat has managed once again to take a thread completely off topic.....

once again?

much to his satisfaction I'm sure.

I must admit watching the masses scramble to build an anti boat army is entertaining

I would like to keep this thread alive and somewhat on topic

then why are you talking about me?

because I really am interested in how opinions might change after actually staying at SSR.


un huh

Thanks for all the replies so far and just ignore "the boat", he's just a little "dinghey".


did you feel better after you posted that?

 

[Bichon Barb]

Thanks for all the replies so far and just ignore "the boat", he's just a little "dinghey". LOL

 

[shantay1008]

shantay1008 if i ever change jobs and start selling timeshares, I will call on you.

have your check book ready.

Now, now, don't get your undies in a bundle. I really am trying to get inside your argument and think about whether or not it's a valid concern. I'm not trying to make you wrong, I'm just trying to see if it's a logical argument. You're making some big assumptions, though, don't you think? 1) assuming DVC will pick a bad location for a future resort, 2) assuming people who buy at that future resort won't like it, and 3) assuming that people who bought now at SSR don't like it.

Having said all that, there is one resort where I honestly would not like to stay at all, and if I had to stay there every time I went to WDW, I would be bummed. It wouldn't ruin my life, for heaven's sake, but it would bug me enough that I would go to DVC management with my problem and see what they could do. I guess you'd say that my chances of having to stay at that smaller resort are less than your chances of having to stay at SSR. It seems a bit early yet to determine if people are being forced to stay anywhere, assuming they book within their four-month home resort window.

So if some day you really are forced to stay at SSR all the time, then I will feel sorry for you (just like you'd feel sorry for me if I was forced to spend every vacation at this other resort, which I won't name because I'm far too tactful ).

By the way, I always understand jokes, but the one you made (above) went over my head. Do you mean that since I bought SSR, I would buy anything? I wouldn't buy any old timeshare; I bought with Disney, and so far it's been awesome.

 

[bpmorley]

I personally like SSR. But I've only stayed in The Springs. Which is right by the main pool and store. The theming is what it is. Whether some people think Saratoga NY is worthy of a theme resort is another discussion. I will definitely stay there again.

 

[Bichon Barb]

Please please put up a bedspread compairson!! I just about feel over with the couch one. It was good

Okay, okay. Twist my arm.

SSR - Tasteful yet earthy. Nice mahogany headboard.

BCV - Not feelin' the purple morning glories with the gingham and the Christmas carpet.

OKW - You know, I think the teal and pink 1980's look is actually due to come back in style.

BWV - Touche'. This has a kind of sweet look to it.

 

[boatboatboat]

Now, now, don't get your undies in a bundle.

Ok

I really am trying to get inside your argument and think about whether or not it's a valid concern.


good

I'm not trying to make you wrong,


good idea, since you can't

I'm just trying to see if it's a logical argument.


It's simple. Build 1000 rooms spread amoung 5 resorts. Make 400 of the rooms in the worst loaction in relation to the parks, and it is obvious it will strain the system.

You're making some big assumptions, though, don't you think?


let's see


1) assuming DVC will pick a bad location for a future resort,


enjoy your 20 min bus ride to EVERY PARK. DVC built bwv/bcv/vwl prior to ssr for a reason. until WDW build a 5th park, dvc is simply out of land to build another large resort, that can by any objective mind be viewed as "on site". I have no doubt when SSR sells out we will see more dvc resorts built. Some will be "on-site" IE: walk, boat ride to a park, but they WILL BUILD another monster, and that monster may well make SSR look like a 3 min walk from the parks. location, location, location.

I would assume that SSR owners would be worried if DVC built a resort 4 times the size of SSR and that resort was 3 miles further away from the parks then SSR?


2) assuming people who buy at that future resort won't like it, and



sure they will like it, it's new, if disney, you are happy and on vacation and trying to show your family you love them and want to give them MORE disney moments. Yes it would sell

3) assuming that people who bought now at SSR don't like it.



see above.

Having said all that, there is one resort where I honestly would not like to stay at all, and if I had to stay there every time I went to WDW, I would be bummed.

me too

It wouldn't ruin my life,


It wouldn't ruin my life if i walked out into the driveway and threw 20k into a pile and burnt it. But I would sure look back on that day with anger


but it would bug me enough that I would go to DVC management with my problem and see what they could do.


they couldn't do anything, nor would they care. They already have my money.

I guess you'd say that my chances of having to stay at that smaller resort are less than your chances of having to stay at SSR.


EGG-ZACT-LEE.......... Chances are SSR ,for numerous reasons will remain the least difficult resort to book into for many many many years.



It seems a bit early yet to determine if people are being forced to stay anywhere, assuming they book within their four-month home resort window.

ahoy captain obvious......... at 11 mths SSR will have no effect on other owners. WE ALL KNOW THAT. Now get inside 210 days......... well read the board. Wait list all over the place, that simply weren't there 2 years ago, and SSR is only half sold. Gonna get worse.


So if some day you really are forced to stay at SSR all the time, then I will feel sorry for you (just like you'd feel sorry for me if I was forced to spend every vacation at this other resort, which I won't name because I'm far too tactful ).


I have no need to be tactful on a public message board.

The schances of an SSR owner booking 90 days out and having to stay else where are slim to non. Obviously there will be sparadic exceptions.


By the way, I always understand jokes,


cool

but the one you made (above) went over my head.


sorry

Do you mean that since I bought SSR, I would buy anything?

anything is not a fair statement. If my ONLY choice today were SSR, I would consider buying.


I wouldn't buy any old timeshare;


good. Would you buy an "ocean" resort 20 min by bus from the ocean?

I bought with Disney, and so far it's been awesome.


And it will continue to be for 48 more years

 

[shantay1008]

Well, B3, let's keep our fingers crossed that DVC will add a fantastic resort onto an existing hotel with a great location. Actually, they'd probably need to do a couple of those to balance out SSR's capacity, I suppose.

I hope you really don't feel like you've thrown away $20k. I mean, you could sell your points someday if DVC really didn't work out the way you'd hoped. You own at BWV, if I remember correctly, so you'd come out ahead, or at least even, wouldn't you? You'd be disappointed, but certainly wouldn't be out the money.

Saratoga Shan, I'm sorry! Back to your topic: I'll add that I was pleasantly surprised by how close SSR was to DTD. In the photos I'd seen, the resort looked like it was out in the middle of a field, but it was a very comfortable little walk or boat ride to DTD. I had thought we'd miss being close to EPCOT, but our kids have minds of their own now. They wanted to be at Magic Kingdom, Disney Quest, and Blizzard Beach, so being close to EPCOT ended up not even being a factor.

(Not to get off-topic again, but when we stayed at BCV, I was all excited to run over to France and get some pastries and a real mocha for breakfast, but the pavilions didn't open until 11am! I should have checked first, I suppose, but I was just so excited about the location. C'est la vie.)

 

[boatboatboat]

I hope you really don't feel like you've thrown away $20k.


I have gotten good value, and shall continue to. But I sincerly feel that what I own now, is not as good as it was, prior to a huge resort that is not close to any park, being added into the dvc family.

I had visions of being able to book into vero in jan. That will never happen for anyone anymore unless they own there or play the waitlest game and call every single day. What a pain.....

I had visions of going to HH every Easter or thanksgiving (we have done that the last 4 years), but those days are also over unless you own there (added HH points this week).

The game has changed for sure.......

I wish SSR would have been an over the top resort that put the other dvc's to shame. I wish SSR had the best location, the best pool, the most hot tubd per room, the best places to eat right at your finger tips. Heck if SSR had those things they could make it 5000k rooms and i wouldn't care. But it's size, location, and lack of pixie dust will strain the system.

watch and see.........

 

[DVC Sadie]

Thanks for all the replies so far and just ignore "the boat", he's just a little "dinghey".


did you feel better after you posted that?

I felt a lot better, thanks for asking.

 

[boatboatboat]

sometimes it's the little things, that get us thru the day.

 

[DrTomorrow]

So come on B3 show us the research on this

dvc built here after bcv/bwv/vwl for a reason.

OKW was a "test" to see if the dvc concept would sell. Once that test showed it would DVC built in the prime areas. What was left was a failed disney intitute loaction.

those are simply the facts.......

don't kill the messenger.

Hmmmm. Not quite the appropriate use of the word "facts" - more like opinion.

Let's try an alternate train of thought:

OKW was a test - agreed. Then Disney/Eisner, fearing any risk, decided to build DVC as poor-relation add-ons grafted to existing resorts at minimal cost (no new restaurants needed, minor pool additions, no dedicated lobby building, no up-close parking, etc.). Then, with a much greater sense of confidence - and the prime location selected for the Disney Institute available - Disney went back to the original DVC plan and built a second dedicated on-site DVC resort of a size sufficient to meet the requests of many members, with it's own DVC-only feature pool, multiple leisure pools, Community Hall and dining places, leaving lots of room for expansion and improvement (a la Turf Club) - not to mention the close proximity to DTD, PI and WE, which not only will become more significant as DVC owners mature, but DTD/PI/WE seems to be the focus of the main redevelopment effort currently under way.

If I wanted to put my MrMeanie hat on, I could suggest that it is SSR owners who should feel bad for non-SSR/OKW owners. Paying higher dues & point costs for resorts that aren't even really dedicated DVC resorts - resorts that they might not even get to stay at, despite the fact that they are owners! Of course, I'd never put on that hat

So I guess it's all in how you look at things - meaning, once again, that 3 Boats 3 is dealing with opinion, not fact. That's a good thing to remember whenever anyone on the internet claims to know "the truth".

IMHO - YMMV - Be well!

 

[TomD]

Has anyone changed their opinion of SSR?

not 2 pages of the SOS that is in every thread that is about SSR.

 

[boatboatboat]

Has anyone changed their opinion of SSR?


yes we have come to the conclusion it isn't HUGE, and is a short walk from all 4 parks, and it's reslae value will double in the next 10 years.

 

[skoi]

No comment on the actual topic because we haven't stayed at SSR, but we're looking forward to it- except our oldest dd who thinks they should actually have horse there (free to ride to DVC members of course).

On the pink and teal- it is coming back, along with pink and gray because the
'80s are back. Have you seen the gauchos in the stores?

 

[CRSNDSNY]

yeah, I'm a day late and a dollar short on this topic, but it looks like they finally got the couch right with SSR. It only took 6 failures! LOL

I don't get it.

This is considered tacky:

 

[Sarnia]

Has anyone changed their opinion of SSR?


yes we have come to the conclusion it isn't HUGE, and is a short walk from all 4 parks, and it's reslae value will double in the next 10 years.

Sorry BBB, some of your comments i've found quite amusing, but it's got old now.

Be gone evil troll, back under your bridge, and stay there!

 

[DVC Sadie]

yeah, I'm a day late and a dollar short on this topic, but it looks like they finally got the couch right with SSR. It only took 6 failures! LOL

Both my dh and I find SSR to be a wonderful resort. I was one who changed my mind after staying at SSR. The first time I stayed at the resort I was on a solo trip and found myself wanting a sit down restaurant and missed room service. My next trip was with my dh and we stayed in a 1 bedroom and believe it or not that changed my whole perspective. That visit was so enjoyable and when we found out that they were adding a sit down restaurant we were thrilled.
We loved the room decor and the couch is so nice. We find that we don't want all the hub bub and enjoy the peace and quiet of this wonderful resort.
When we stay at SSR we also add 4 or more days at a monorail resort so we have the ease of visiting MK and Epcot during that part of our trip plus that is when I order the room service. For us this is the best of both worlds.

 

[boatboatboat]

so you left ssr for your park days?