HalloweenTime at DLR Superthread #4

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I just had to giggle for a moment. The MiceChat people are JUST NOW, JUST TODAY figuring out that there are no pumpkin carvers at Disneyland this year, and no Halloween Carnival. JUST NOW!

When did I first break the news here, in this thread? Was it... at least 2 weeks ago, if not longer?

That's right -- DISboards scooped MiceChat on that one!!!! Hee hee!!!! Score! :banana: ;)


Edited to add: I just checked -- I broke the news on July 24th!!!!!!!


:dancer::dancer::dancer:

I forgot to mention earlier that MiceChat's/MiceAge's Dateline Disneyland has a lot of photos of some of this year's Halloween merchandise at DLR -- http://micechat.com/107769-disneyland-mobile-app/. You have to scroll down to get to the photos, but they're there. Much of what is shown is the standard Halloween Time fare that you'd see every year, or very similar. There are a few new and interesting things -- I think the lantern decals featuring the different lands are new, and they are quite cool!
 
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OH, I love the candy dish and lanterns.

Are these at DL now? Will be there this weekend. Last year by the time Halloween rolled around it was slim pickings.
 
OH, I love the candy dish and lanterns.

Are these at DL now? Will be there this weekend. Last year by the time Halloween rolled around it was slim pickings.

Yes -- I think that the article is implying that those items were seen and photographed at DLR sometime in the last week.

They start to get their Halloween things in so early, that a lot of the items are gone by the time 10/31 rolls around. The same thing happens with holiday merchandise -- it starts to appear before Halloween Time ends, and some of it is gone by the time Christmas arrives.
 
Now the MiceChat folks -- who just caught on today that there will be no pumpkin carvers, 2.5 weeks after I revealed it here in this thread ;) -- are speculating that the pumpkin carvers are not coming back because of the drought's effect on pumpkins this year.

Now... it's not that there isn't some logic to that theory, and it would make sense if ONLY the carvers were not coming back, but.... there's also no Pirates League, no Conjure a Villain tent, and apparently no decorators needed at the specific Carnival location (probably no fortuneteller and no entertainment either, I suppose)! That is not ALL drought-related, of course. And Santa Claus is back in his cabin for the holidays which likely means no Jingle Jangle Jamboree. That would not be drought-related either.

So... clearly, we have several choices as to what could be the reason for no Halloween Carnival in Frontierland:

1. Disney is being cheap -- er, um... 'frugal' -- since they spent so much money on the 60th anniversary;

2. Disney doesn't want to have anything in that location this year because they feel it will detract from the 60th anniversary;

3. They need that space for something else this year (storage, rehearsals, etc.); or

4. It is going to be involved in future development in the park (Star Wars Land or whatever).
 

(Sorry if these have been asked - I skimmed and didn't see them)

I haven't been to MHP in a few years and I have a couple questions:
1. I have tickets for the 16th and we were going to stay the night, but now find out DD may have to be back in town early Sat morning, so we're thinking of leaving the party about an hour early to get a head start back home. If we do that, will we miss much that last hour?

2. How early in the day do people wear costumes? Can we wear them when we get there late morning, or should we plan on changing when MHP ticket holders are allowed in around 4?
 
Hoping to purchase our tickets for the 9.30 party next week (DH has a deal worked out with DD to "earn" her party, so I have to wait). Hopefully, tickets are still plentiful for that night. Middle of the week, probably pretty safe still, right?
 
So is that area just going to be closed or used for photo ops??

No one knows, because I don't think anyone expected that Carnival/Jamboree/Festival Arena area to be closed. All I can guess is that, if what I learned was accurate and that Santa Claus will be back inside his log cabin for photos this year, then there is a chance that the little cabin/Scare-Dy-Crow Shack will be there for Halloween Time, and there may be photos ops around that specific area (which is also right by the petting zoo). In other words, if there is a plan for the little cabin during the holiday season, I don't see why it can't be decorated for Halloween -- even if the actual Carnival is not happening.

MiceAge is claiming in their latest Update -- http://micechat.com/108619-disneyland-rumors-starwars/ -- that the plans are going forward with a Star Wars Land that will wipe out Toontown, the Festival Arena and the Circle D Ranch. However, they don't think it will be announced at D23 this weekend. IF they are correct, chances are, I doubt that any work would be done on that area until next year, at the earliest -- and they may have to wait through all of the El Nino rain before they can get anything done.

So... in the meantime, why would the Festival Arena be closed this year? It seems that it could be used for something. But... as I have been saying over in the Christmas/Holiday Season Superthread, my hunch -- and it is only a theory, which could be completely wrong -- is that, due to the Star Wars premiere that is coming to the Magic Eye Theater, and whatever else may be done to the theater, the Candlelight Ceremony people won't have a place to rehearse. They usually rehearse in the Magic Eye Theater. The Candlelight Ceremony is a tradition of more than 50 years. I doubt it would be shelved, but the performers would need a new place to rehearse in the weeks and months leading up to December.

Hmm... where could they rehearse that is an open space, closed off to the public, with a stage? You guessed it! The Festival Arena!!!



In discussing pros and cons of the party with my family another question came up. Is it worth it to have shorter hours on Monday (it seems the parks could open as late at 10am, DCA may close at 8pm. Looking at past years) in order to have maybe lighter crowds on a Monday during the day? We could change it to go to the parks on Sat and Sun and skip the party but are weekends during this time very crowded. At least they would have longer hours. This July was really crowded for July because of the 60th. (But still not as bad as New Year's Day.) How are crowds normally on a weekend or weekday at the end of September?

The crowds pick up when Mickey's Halloween Party begins, so I would expect that the weekends will be pretty busy -- especially if people who are not going to the MHP are trying to squeeze in all of their Disneyland activities earlier in the day! It won't be like New Year's Eve busy, but it will be busy.

Sherry do you anything about Innoventions building yet? Will they have to ope for treat trails in October?

I have no clue -- but take a peek at the MiceAge Update that I linked above. It sounds like the original plans for Innoventions somehow fell through, but I think that it is still going to be used for something Star Wars-related or Marvel-related this year. I would nto be shocked if there is no treat trail there this year.

(Sorry if these have been asked - I skimmed and didn't see them)

I haven't been to MHP in a few years and I have a couple questions:
1. I have tickets for the 16th and we were going to stay the night, but now find out DD may have to be back in town early Sat morning, so we're thinking of leaving the party about an hour early to get a head start back home. If we do that, will we miss much that last hour?

2. How early in the day do people wear costumes? Can we wear them when we get there late morning, or should we plan on changing when MHP ticket holders are allowed in around 4?

I think that what you'd miss in the last hour would be lighter crowds, as a lot of people will clear out after the fireworks and parade. I don't know when the Paint the Night parade will run during the party, so there is a chance you could miss it... but probably not.

Technically, people are not supposed to be wearing costumes in Disneyland until 3 p.m. or 4 p.m., depending on when the MHP ticket allows entry that day. However, I think that Disney has relaxed the rules a bit, as people have reported seeing costumes before 3 p.m. or 4 p.m. I probably wouldn't try to get away with elaborate, cumbersome costumes in the morning, but you might be able to get away with costumes well before 4 p.m. (if 4 p.m. is your entry time).

Hoping to purchase our tickets for the 9.30 party next week (DH has a deal worked out with DD to "earn" her party, so I have to wait). Hopefully, tickets are still plentiful for that night. Middle of the week, probably pretty safe still, right?

Probably so. I think you'll be okay -- but, honestly, seeing how fast Halloween night sold out this year, it's hard to say. It's hard to predict what the ticket buyers will do. It's quite possible that Disney increased the number of tickets sold for each party this year, which would mean that they might not sell out right away. I think that the combo of Halloween night and Saturday was destined to attract a lot of people (even more than a Friday MHP).
 
I just had to giggle for a moment. The MiceChat people are JUST NOW, JUST TODAY figuring out that there are no pumpkin carvers at Disneyland this year, and no Halloween Carnival. JUST NOW!

When did I first break the news here, in this thread? Was it... at least 2 weeks ago, if not longer?

That's right -- DISboards scooped MiceChat on that one!!!! Hee hee!!!! Score! :banana: ;)


Edited to add: I just checked -- I broke the news on July 24th!!!!!!!


:dancer::dancer::dancer:

I forgot to mention earlier that MiceChat's/MiceAge's Dateline Disneyland has a lot of photos of some of this year's Halloween merchandise at DLR -- http://micechat.com/107769-disneyland-mobile-app/. You have to scroll down to get to the photos, but they're there. Much of what is shown is the standard Halloween Time fare that you'd see every year, or very similar. There are a few new and interesting things -- I think the lantern decals featuring the different lands are new, and they are quite cool!

Wow there!! Don't be hating on my MiceChat! I love that site!!
 
Wow there!! Don't be hating on my MiceChat! I love that site!!

Who's hating? I always give them credit when I read a rumor or an article from them -- and I link it here, which is very nice of me to do... seeing that we are a competing board.

But the fact remains that I beat them to the punch on this one -- there is no getting around that fact -- and that they don't seem to be aware that the whole Carnival is not happening. They only just caught on to the lack of pumpkin carvers.

You have to give credit where credit is due -- and, in this case, I scooped them and beat them to the punch! ;)
 
Now the MiceChat folks -- who just caught on today that there will be no pumpkin carvers, 2.5 weeks after I revealed it here in this thread ;) -- are speculating that the pumpkin carvers are not coming back because of the drought's effect on pumpkins this year.

Now... it's not that there isn't some logic to that theory, and it would make sense if ONLY the carvers were not coming back, but.... there's also no Pirates League, no Conjure a Villain tent, and apparently no decorators needed at the specific Carnival location (probably no fortuneteller and no entertainment either, I suppose)! That is not ALL drought-related, of course. And Santa Claus is back in his cabin for the holidays which likely means no Jingle Jangle Jamboree. That would not be drought-related either.

So... clearly, we have several choices as to what could be the reason for no Halloween Carnival in Frontierland:

1. Disney is being cheap -- er, um... 'frugal' -- since they spent so much money on the 60th anniversary;

2. Disney doesn't want to have anything in that location this year because they feel it will detract from the 60th anniversary;

3. They need that space for something else this year (storage, rehearsals, etc.); or

4. It is going to be involved in future development in the park (Star Wars Land or whatever).

Ugh, that's a real bummer. I've recently come to love that little area during Halloweentime and Holidaytime. It seemed that when we went, which attendance was already what I consider low in the parks, those areas were sooooo nice and quiet. We loved hanging back there with my dd4, the crafts were always fun and I always feel like the character interactions back there are so much nicer than anywhere else in the parks. I was excited to head back there for Halloweentime next month. Boooo Disney!
 
Ugh, that's a real bummer. I've recently come to love that little area during Halloweentime and Holidaytime. It seemed that when we went, which attendance was already what I consider low in the parks, those areas were sooooo nice and quiet. We loved hanging back there with my dd4, the crafts were always fun and I always feel like the character interactions back there are so much nicer than anywhere else in the parks. I was excited to head back there for Halloweentime next month. Boooo Disney!

I really think and thought that the Halloween Carnival is essential to the Halloween Time season, as Halloween Time is thin to begin with. Charging more money for MHP tickets does not a fully developed Halloween Time season make!

Even beyond the Carnival, though, there is the possibility of no Jingle Jangle Jamboree -- I'm not entirely sure about that yet, though. If I am right in my hunch/theory that the Candlelight folks could need that space to rehearse this year, there probably would not be a JJJ. if I'm wrong, there could be a JJJ -- although I don't see why there would be a JJJ if there is no Halloween Carnival.

And even beyond the holiday season... that whole Festival Arena just recently became the Springtime Roundup (it started in 2014 and returned this year), where the egg decorators were stationed (and one of those decorators is also a pumpkin carver). There have to be egg decorators somewhere in Disneyland Resort!

So the loss of that Festival Arena to a Star Wars Land or whatever is coming means a big impact on 3 different holiday seasons too! Halloween, Christmas and Easter -- all diminished a bit, because of the lack of a Festival Arena (IF MiceAge is correct about the coming Star Wars Land).
 
Who's hating? I always give them credit when I read a rumor or an article from them -- and I link it here, which is very nice of me to do... seeing that we are a competing board.

But the fact remains that I beat them to the punch on this one -- there is no getting around that fact -- and that they don't seem to be aware that the whole Carnival is not happening. They only just caught on to the lack of pumpkin carvers.

You have to give credit where credit is due -- and, in this case, I scooped them and beat them to the punch! ;)

I was just joking!!! ;) I love both the DISboard's big superthreads that you have on here (always super helpful!) and MiceChat's MiceAge articles which always have the latest (mostly confirmed) rumors and the like. So I guess I need to give you credit for having Superthreads on Halloween and Christmas as well, which MiceChat doesn't have! :worship: Halloweentime doesn't get as much love on MiceChat as on the DISboards, which I think is why a newer member posted that they just saw it on Facebook. Much easier to find info on the DISboards via superthreads! :goodvibes
 
I was just joking!!! ;) I love both the DISboard's big superthreads that you have on here (always super helpful!) and MiceChat's MiceAge articles which always have the latest (mostly confirmed) rumors and the like. So I guess I need to give you credit for having Superthreads on Halloween and Christmas as well, which MiceChat doesn't have! :worship: Halloweentime doesn't get as much love on MiceChat as on the DISboards, which I think is why a newer member posted that they just saw it on Facebook. Much easier to find info on the DISboards via superthreads! :goodvibes

Oh, I know you were just joking! It's all in good fun and friendly competition (between sites)! I love to read their rumors and tidbits of info -- I was glad to finally see a big Update this morning -- and their endless threads about what they would change at DLR! :lmao: I peek in on all of the Disney discussion sites, but MiceChat is the only one that I really keep going back to.

I have noticed that they are not as holiday focused all year long, so a lot of the news and info may not get to them until later -- unless MiceAge releases an update. Of course, in today's MiceAge Update, it was mentioned that the Christmas parade may move over to DCA this year -- which is something I did not know or even consider! I knew that the parade was returning, but I thought it might run on a limited schedule in DL -- it never even dawned on me that it could be in DCA. So, if MiceAge is right, I have to tip my hat to them because that is big news! In fact, I can't even envision ACFP in DCA, to be honest.
 
Finally got caught up on a good chunk of this. Thanks Sherry for keeping it so up to date!! We are headed to see the Mouse in October. First to Legoland, and then Disneyland. We arrive in DL on the Tue the 20th. In the parks Wed-Fri. Our original plan was to possibly only get single day tickets to save on $$, but with Parties on both Thur and Friday that week, I think we'll do Hoppers. No party for us. Can't justify over $300 for characters and trick or treating (my kids think the Halloween Fireworks are too scary). Now I'm thinking we should pay the extra $100 to add a 1/2 day on Tuesday to increase our chances of seeing Paint the Night and Fireworks. Decisions, Decisions!!

One question...Does the Pre-Party in Toontown require a Party Wristband? Just curious....
 
In case anyone was interested - the El Capitan Spooktacular parties for Hocus Pocus and Nightmare Before Christmas 4D are sold out! The Black Cauldron still has availability but not sure for how long. I am soooo mad at myself for putting off buying the NBC party tickets - thought I had longer than a couple of weeks to get them :(
 
Finally got caught up on a good chunk of this. Thanks Sherry for keeping it so up to date!! We are headed to see the Mouse in October. First to Legoland, and then Disneyland. We arrive in DL on the Tue the 20th. In the parks Wed-Fri. Our original plan was to possibly only get single day tickets to save on $$, but with Parties on both Thur and Friday that week, I think we'll do Hoppers. No party for us. Can't justify over $300 for characters and trick or treating (my kids think the Halloween Fireworks are too scary). Now I'm thinking we should pay the extra $100 to add a 1/2 day on Tuesday to increase our chances of seeing Paint the Night and Fireworks. Decisions, Decisions!!

One question...Does the Pre-Party in Toontown require a Party Wristband? Just curious....

If there is a pre-party in Toontown this year (and there should be), a wristband would probably be required. It would start before the party, but within the period of time when people can enter the parks early with their MHP ticket. I'm sure that Disney would not be handing out candy to guests without a wristband, and there are treat stations there.
 
Finally got caught up on a good chunk of this. Thanks Sherry for keeping it so up to date!! We are headed to see the Mouse in October. First to Legoland, and then Disneyland. We arrive in DL on the Tue the 20th. In the parks Wed-Fri. Our original plan was to possibly only get single day tickets to save on $$, but with Parties on both Thur and Friday that week, I think we'll do Hoppers. No party for us. Can't justify over $300 for characters and trick or treating (my kids think the Halloween Fireworks are too scary). Now I'm thinking we should pay the extra $100 to add a 1/2 day on Tuesday to increase our chances of seeing Paint the Night and Fireworks. Decisions, Decisions!!

One question...Does the Pre-Party in Toontown require a Party Wristband? Just curious....

Last year when we went they checked us for the wristband when we got in line for the Toontown preparty.
 
El Niño rain? Should I be concerned for oct? I was rained on 8hrs plus a day every day last year in Wdw. Really don't need it this year x
 
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