Had a hunch it may happen , the pp for Grand. Cal. is dropping 300+ down to 249.00. I am anxious to see the price Of Disney Land Towers !!!

[tidefan]

This where the math falls apart for me, but it is exactly what they did for GF pricing it so low. I was stunned they did it with VGF, but I guess they had to, still holding the bag on all of that RIV and Aulani, and that hasn't changed. And VGF2 is such a small project compared to any of these, DL Tower, RIV, or POly2.

They don't have to price DLT to sell. I think they price high and maybe add incentives if it isn't working. That's the opposite of what the podcast guessed, that opening price would be cheapest.

VGC dropping now is crazy. I haven't seen anything like this since I started looking at DVC. Good time to buy VGC for sure.

I think the issue at DLT is going to be the average contract size, as mentioned above. I think this is going to sell to a lot of current members, which seems to suggest selling out quick, but if those members are adding on 50 point contracts instead of 150 point contracts, then DVD will have to sell 3 times as many contracts to keep up. I think this is going to sell really well, but the work here for DVD will be in the volume. They are going to have to sell a bunch more contracts. VGF2 had around 1.8 million points just with the 200 studios. DLT will have over 3 million to sell, and again, I would imagine that the average contract size is going to be less than what you see at WDW based resorts. Time will tell...

 

[Royal Consort]

Pete coming in hot on the podcast. $275 for DLT points! Let's gooo!!! I agree!

I remember you predicting VGF2 through the stratosphere too.

 

[Rolem]

I could see owning enough points for a 3 night stay once a year at Disneyland but no more than that. We can make a quick trip (from Nor Cal) to DL, stay offsite, walk to the parks and use the difference to pay for the tickets. I would much rather own and spend points for a long stay at Disney World.

 

[NVDISFamily]

The real "value" in DVC points are in the suites at VGC. Suites at the Grand Cal go for INSANE rack rates and they are often sold out for months in advance.....

If you are a studio only person then I don't see as much value in DVC at Disneyland Resort. Yes you get some value, but it's not a big delta vs cash rack rates and with cash you keep that flexibility.

2BR Suite Weekly	Disneyland Hotel	Grand Cal	Grand Cal VS DLH % Delta
April High	11,346.66	17,290.26	52.38%
April Low	10,366.20	15,322.32	47.81%
	VDH Point Cost (Estimated)	VGC Points
DVC Point Cost	190	255	34.21%
Updated	9/17/22

Posted this to the waiting for VDH conversation originally but I feel it helps here too. VDH needs to have good value vs VGC or no go for me.....

 

[Huskerpaul]

I could see owning enough points for a 3 night stay once a year at Disneyland but no more than that. We can make a quick trip (from Nor Cal) to DL, stay offsite, walk to the parks and use the difference to pay for the tickets. I would much rather own and spend points for a long stay at Disney World.

This is an important point that folks unfamiliar with Disneyland may not understand. There are many places to stay that are just outside the gates to Disneyland. This last trip we did a split stay at BW Park Place Inn right across from the Disneyland entrance and VGC. My wife really like the convenience of Park Place. Great mini-mart right next door for wine and snacks. VGC "market" left a lot to be desired. Don't get me wrong - we loved VGC a lot and our room was amazing. It's just there are very real non-Disney options both budget and Lux (JW Marriott & Westin) within walking distance of the parks. This does not exist at WDW and It is the one of the reasons WDW was built.

 

[tidefan]

This is an important point that folks unfamiliar with Disneyland may not understand. There are many places to stay that are just outside the gates to Disneyland. This last trip we did a split stay at BW Park Place Inn right across from the Disneyland entrance and VGC. My wife really like the convenience of Park Place. Great mini-mart right next door for wine and snacks. VGC "market" left a lot to be desired. Don't get me wrong - we loved VGC a lot and our room was amazing. It's just there are very real non-Disney options both budget and Lux (JW Marriott & Westin) within walking distance of the parks. This does not exist at WDW and It is the one of the reasons WDW was built.

Completely agree. I also think that there will be many, like us, from the East Coast that pair this with an Aulani trip, so maybe stay 4 nights every 2-3 years. That probably will require only 50-70 points. I think they'll sell a lot of those types of contracts as add-on's to current members. Where this will get interesting is new buyers and what the minimum purchase is. How many people are going to need 150pts here every year?

Do we have a breakdown of contract sizes at VGC? That may give some indication, though it is not as studio heavy, which IMHO will tilt VDH even more towards smaller contract sizes.