Gratuities and Tipping !

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We don't tip if the server is awful, there's just no need. Tipping is EXTRA and why should they get rewarded for terrible service?

At home we don't usually tip 20% but at Disney we do tip 18%-20%. They seem to work extra hard to create magic, and I think they really deserve the tip.

I say you should at least leave something, even if it's not that much. Personally, I'm appaled by other posters telling you that you shouldn't eat at TS. This is your trip, do what you want.
 
Whether or not anyone likes tipping really isn't the issue. Tipping is customary in this country and will be for the forseeable future. If you plan to eat out, then you have to plan for the tip as well. If you can't afford the tip, then you can't afford the meal. I don't think it sounds pretentious to say that. It's just a fact.
 
I would love it if the system would change.

But for now, the system is that the servers get paid FAR LESS than minimum wage from the restaurant. The assumption is that they well make up the difference in tips.

So I consider the tip to be part of the price of the meal. If I didn't leave a tip, I would feel as though I had cheated the server out of his or her salary. I take the tip into consideration when I decide whether or not I can afford to eat at a particular restaurant.
 
I agree with Aliceacc and bookgirl2632. If you are deliberately not going to tip just to save a buck then you should get carry out or simply not eat out at all.
And let me ask the OP--suppose tipping were done away with, and the price of the meals escalated to compensate for the servers higher wages? What would your family do then?
 

TiggerDad3- I am just curious- but say you had a bill for $160 at Chefs and you had pretty good service- what would you for example tip?


The one thing I find faulty with your logic is that yes, we all pay plenty for a disney vacation, and yes, the food is expensive- but the servers don't really get a portion of that money- Disney pays them a very low wage (as most restaurants do)- with the expectation that they will be getting tips. I know that's not how the consumer set up the system, but that is the system none-the-less.

Also, I am very curious as to why your family never tipped? (not a judgement at all- that is their own business)- but I was wondering what their philosophy was?
 
With respect, I've never read or heard an explanation for a lack of "belief" in tipping that wasn't a wholly self-serving rationalization for anti-social behavior. Many people wish things were differently (about a lot of things, not just this), but maturity means still living and acting in accordance with how things are.
 
I always tip, even if it was crappy service.

I expect to be paid for the work that I do. Don't you? I certainly wouldn't want to work as hard as I do at my job only to have my boss tell me that I'm not getting paid with the justification of not believing in paying me because that's just the way she was raised.

IMO, it's unfair to have the servers work hard to SERVE you, only to have you not return the courtesy and compensate them. Perhaps a more even playing field would be for you to tell the server up front that you don't plan on giving her a tip. That would make for very interesting service and allow her to focus her energy and attention on tables with paying customers.
 
Does anyone have a copy of a receipt that show the different amounts they offer that you can tip? I would like to see what it looks like. Thanks
 
From what I understand the OP has upgraded free DDP to DXDDP, why not just use free DDP and tip appropriately? :confused3
 
You mean instead of using that $32 per adult per night/$10 per child per night, to 'up' the Dining Plan - use it for tips and the occasionally-necessary extra meal? Brilliant! :thumbsup2:
 
With respect, I've never read or heard an explanation for a lack of "belief" in tipping that wasn't a wholly self-serving rationalization for anti-social behavior. Many people wish things were differently (about a lot of things, not just this), but maturity means still living and acting in accordance with how things are.
::yes:: :thumbsup2
 
Let’s go back a ways. How long ago did we tip 10% and the burger was $1.00 and again 15% when the same burger was $1.50 and now 20% when the burger is over $2.00. As the price of the burger has doubled the cost of the tip quadrupled. One could say that the inflated food cost has already provided the additional tip to the servers. Yes, I do give a tip bases on the service and that happens to be 18% to 20% but I hate to be told what that tip should be as many plans do at WDW (DDE and DDP). Can you tell me that holiday sit down meals, (ie. Thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter week, etc. etc. etc.) are premium meals and therefore the cost should be increases (as it does), thus also is the tip?
Just “food” for thought. :confused3
 
Let’s go back a ways. How long ago did we tip 10%
About 35 years ago. Note that back then 10% was the minimum, not the maximum.

and now 20%
That is not the case. The standard is still 15%-20%... 15% is still a perfectly acceptable gratuity, when it is discretionary.

One could say that the inflated food cost has already provided the additional tip to the servers.
The increase in the percentage over the years accounts for our society's decision in reject the notion that servers should be content to live in poverty. The increase to 15% moves professional servers at diners and such into the lower-middle class.
 
When I tip, as I always do, I try to stay focused on the fact that I am sitting there being served and that if I am generous with my server it's somehow an expression of my gratitude that I can afford to be waited on, and hopefully helps the server to enjoy those privileges in his/her own life. When I sit down at a restaurant, it's with the understanding that servers depend on this to make their living. What I take issue with, however, is how it has become something that is expected (practically demanded by Disney) and others instead of being handled as (I would imagine was originally intended) as a reward for good service. I feel so much better about it when the act is coming from my own heart.
 
Let’s go back a ways. How long ago did we tip 10% and the burger was $1.00 and again 15% when the same burger was $1.50 and now 20% when the burger is over $2.00. As the price of the burger has doubled the cost of the tip quadrupled. One could say that the inflated food cost has already provided the additional tip to the servers. Yes, I do give a tip bases on the service and that happens to be 18% to 20% but I hate to be told what that tip should be as many plans do at WDW (DDE and DDP). Can you tell me that holiday sit down meals, (ie. Thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter week, etc. etc. etc.) are premium meals and therefore the cost should be increases (as it does), thus also is the tip?
Just “food” for thought. :confused3


I would just like to point this particular post out as one that is written with respect, without being pretentious, and promotes conversation. It is one of the very few that can be said about.

Please attempt to keep this topic on subject... which means...
there is no dictation needed, I never asked for anyone to tell me or anyone else what to do.

Here is the topic
I am sure this subject has been addressed before but I could not find it, so just wanted to get others thoughts and see if there were others who felt like me and don't tip the percentage at disney, or those who just don't believe in tipping?


There is a very big difference between giving an oppion and passing out judgements or telling people what they should do... even if it is with so called "respect"

Thank you
 
Personally I don't see the logic in taking out frustration regarding the price of Disney meals on the server by reducing the customary tip or eliminating it altogether (for good service), especially if I were paying a fixed price on the dining plan and then using the dining plan to order food with a much heftier price tag than the daily amount paid for the plan.

If I were interested in taking it out on anyone, it'd be on the company charging those prices. But that'd mean I wouldn't be able to get the dining plan, because I'd be eating somewhere other than Disney World.

Nobody HAS to tip 20%. You might have to tip 18% if you have a party of 6 or more. But other than that, the amount is your own business. No way am I going to discuss the amounts I tip. But not tipping at all would never cross my mind, except for terrible service.
 
Tiggerdad3:
Unfortunately, responses to questions aren't always in the exact manner in which you'd like them to be.
You preambled the actual "topic" with remarks about your own philosophy and that of your non-tipping family. You shouldn't be at all suprised that folks respond to that.
 
DH and I always tip 15% regardless where we are, weither it be here or in Disney, unless its a buffet then we tip 10%. A couple weeks ago, DH and I went out with some friends for dinner, we all paid for our own meals. We went to a buffet. And the waitress was just horrible. Our friends DID NOT leave a tip at all. I asked my DH what we should leave and he said we arent leaving anything. I wasnt gonna try to argue with him or anything so I was like whatever, lets just get out of here. You could leave what my friends usually leave - $1 for every $10. So in other words 10%. Or if you cant afford 20%, what about 15%?

For those who have a problem with people not tipping well and think servers are gonna treat your poorly everytime you go in, you need to watch the movie Waiting with Dane Cook. Theres a part in there, where a guy leaves a VERY small tip, I think like a dollar. And the waiter was like I think you need this more then I do, and the customer got very angry saying that it was insulting. When in reality, it is insulting. If that person can only afford a small tip, then thats just how it is. That doesnt mean they cant eat wherever they want to eat.

In some people's opinion (including my parents), if the service was so horrible, dont leave nothing. Leave them 1 cent. Because then that will show the server that they didnt forget to tip or couldnt afford to tip, but the service was horrible.
 
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