Grading has changed

Yes, it tells me that my kid got 18 wrong or 8 wrong-HUGE difference if they know the material or not. A 4 tells me the teacher likes my kid, a 1 tells me the teacher doesn't like my kid.

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That's exactly what I was thinking. If the teacher is testing/quizzing the students on the things they were taught, than an A- (92) tells me that my child has learned 92% of the material that was important enough to be tested.

To me, an ambiguous 3 tells me nothing about anything.
 
My kids school has been doing this for at least as long as I have had kids in school(10+ years) They get 1-4 through 5th grade and then in 6th grade and up they get number grades. I don't see a problem with it because honestly I really don't think that grades in grammer school matter:confused3 Obviously, I want my children to do their best but I have 3 kids and they are all over the place in ability. My oldest is very, very bright...knew that from her tests, her homework, just the ease that everything came to her. Always got mostly 4's some 3's. My middle dd is average, does well and I can see how she is doing by the same things..test scores. homework etc. My little guy has a learning disability and struggles like crazy just to keep up with the work..his report cards do help me to see the areas he struggles with while also showing me that he has a wonderful attitude by getting 4's in the behavior and other scores. Now, the older 2 are in high school and middle school and number grades are very important to me. I know what they are capable of and expect them to get those grades. For example, my oldest is expected to make honor roll and middle dd is expected to come darn close if notmake it also. My ds will be a different story...an 80 will probably be a great score for him and will be celebrated as such.
 
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That's exactly what I was thinking. If the teacher is testing/quizzing the students on the things they were taught, than an A- (92) tells me that my child has learned 92% of the material that was important enough to be tested.

To me, an ambiguous 3 tells me nothing about anything.

Exactly, getting a paper back with 8 wrong out of 20 and it having a 3 doesn't sit right with me. Almost half wrong is NOT proficient...I do understand that it's all a way to be PC (though I enjoy being politically INCORRECT) but truthfully, it does nothing positive for the students. Heck, in kindergarten through 2nd grade, they only got S or U, satisfactory or unsatisfactory. Those were accompanied on notes on subjects and what they excelled/struggled with.
 
Here we had 1-4 (1= Below Basic, 2=Basic, 3 = Proficient, 4 = Advanced)...this year they switched to the letter grades:confused3. It will be interesting to see for us, as our DS always had 3 or 4 in every subject.
 

My child's school uses the 1-4 system but the way they define the numbers is a bit different.

1 is does not meet NYS standards for ____ grade
2 meets some NYS standards for _____ grade
3 meets all NYS standards for ______ grade
4 exceeds all NYS standards for _____ grade

Each area math, science, reading, etc... Is broken down into the skills they need to achieve that year. So reading in kindergarten may be:

Recognizes all upper case letters - followed by a number.
Recognizes all lower case letters - followed by a number
Can phonetically sound all letters - followed by a number
etc...

It works for us. I like it better than the letter grades my daughter gets in 5th grade. Reading - A. Means nothing to me. Seeing it broken down by each skill they need to attain makes much more sense to me.

Hope this helps some. :)

Our elementary schools are shifting to that grading system, too. My youngest is in the 6th grade this year, though, so I won't have to deal with it. I didn't get the sense that our schools were going to break all the skills like that down for our students, but since I haven't seen it I don't know for sure. It does seem more specific if they actually list out all the skills.
 
used to.

My understanding it was supposed to correlate to how the kids would scored on the State Standardized tests.

IIRC ours went the other way though, a 1 or 2 was good and 3's and 4's were bad. Who knows. :confused3
 
Sounds like a joke to me, too.

So you're going to tell a kid who comes out of the blocks knowing the material (Scoring 90% or better on tests and quizzes), that he only gets a 2. Then, later on in the year, when he is still scoring 90%+, that he suddenly gets a 4? That makes no sense at all, except that it prevents parents of other students from facing the fact that their child may need an extra push to catch up on things.

"It's okay Mr. & Mrs. Sally. As you can see the best student in the class only got a 2, so Sally is not too far behind with her 1." :rolleyes:

It is a joke. And if the teachers never test beyond grade level, a student would never earn higher than a 3. Let's all strive to be average!
 
Exactly, getting a paper back with 8 wrong out of 20 and it having a 3 doesn't sit right with me. Almost half wrong is NOT proficient...I do understand that it's all a way to be PC (though I enjoy being politically INCORRECT) but truthfully, it does nothing positive for the students. Heck, in kindergarten through 2nd grade, they only got S or U, satisfactory or unsatisfactory. Those were accompanied on notes on subjects and what they excelled/struggled with.

Yes...I totally agree with this. When my kid comes home with a quiz where he got all the questions right, he gets a 3 now. Before it would have been 100%/A.
He cannot get a 4, because since all the material was taught and it is at grade level, it is not considered "exceeds expectations" which is the requirement for a 4. So he gets a 3, along with a kid who only got 80% of the questions right (which under our old grading scale was a C+) Sorry, but all that teaches them is that they can do things half-way and still get away with it. I do like that there are more "categories" on the report card now, but that's it.
 
How do they calculate a GPA based on this?

That's exactly why I don't like it. You really can't. They switch back to letter grades in Jr. high which is 6th grade here. It is really frustrating for kids in our school, because they were used to the letter grade system, and now have to use this for a few years and switch back.
 
I have no idea what is wrong with an ABC grading scale. Most of us all used it all our lives and it wasnt bad. But it seems that more and more school are switching. 1234 really makes no sense and neither does S and U.
 
Welcome to the world of No Child Left Behind.

To translate your school's grades:

4 = A+
3 = B
2 = C-
1 = F
 
Ok, for those whose kids are graded by 1 - 4, what is on their tests? You have 10 questions for spelling, 10 points each, a perfect test is 100? Do you get numbers on it?

I mean if you get 100 on a test then you know how your child is doing :confused3.
 
Ah, the good old days... when kids learned that results do matter in the real world, right from wrong, winning and losing, respect for authority...
 
Ok, for those whose kids are graded by 1 - 4, what is on their tests? You have 10 questions for spelling, 10 points each, a perfect test is 100? Do you get numbers on it?

I mean if you get 100 on a test then you know how your child is doing :confused3.

That is true. I don't know what our elementary teachers are doing for that. Our schools only used "real" grades starting in 4th grade prior to this year anyway, so it's only changing for two grade levels. Pre-4th grade, they used to get (C)ompetent, (P)rogressing, (U)nsatisfactory. I think there may have been something between P and U. Those made even less sense.
 
Welcome to the world of No Child Left Behind.

To translate your school's grades:

4 = A+
3 = B
2 = C-
1 = F

I disagree that it is related to NCLB. I was in elementary school in the mid 1970's, and we got number grades until middle school. In fact, the 1-4 scale has been around quite a while.
 
Ok, for those whose kids are graded by 1 - 4, what is on their tests? You have 10 questions for spelling, 10 points each, a perfect test is 100? Do you get numbers on it?

I mean if you get 100 on a test then you know how your child is doing :confused3.

My kids only get the 1-4 on their report cards. There tests are still number grades.


I was in grammer school in the late 70's and 80's and we got E's(excellent)G(good) S (satisfactory) or U (unsatisfactory) so I don't think this is something new.
 
I disagree that it is related to NCLB. I was in elementary school in the mid 1970's, and we got number grades until middle school. In fact, the 1-4 scale has been around quite a while.

Ah. I was attributing the use of the "exceeds expectations" vocabulary to NCLB. :)
 


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