Government shutdown - flights?

[DCLMP]

You are 100% right! Hopefully everything opens and returns to normal soon, but right now flights are still being cancelled and delayed.

We are off to the airport right now and hoping for the best- I've been tracking Flightaware and in the past three days this flight was delayed 2 hours twice and canceled once.

The transportation secretary said days ago that when the government does open it may take a few week before things return to normal.

 

[gottalovepluto]

Great flights on DL yesterday from the west coast via SLC to MCO. Both flights came in early. I know it’s sucked for others but there is still some hope!

 

[Amyshubby]

Just landed at MCO. Fantastic experience. JetBlue terminal in JFK was a breeze. Got through TSA (we have pre-check) in 2 minutes. Flight was only about 50% full (one of the later flights of the evening so maybe people moved to an earlier time?)

All I can say is that my hope is that each of you have an equally easy experience!

 

[Sparrow'sLady]

They will be. The house will pass it.

This week is going to be a mess while all of this is resolved. The government is NOT OPEN YET.

As of now, it is open and the house passed it.

The transportation secretary said it would take a few weeks to catch-up. Nothing further was elaborated on regarding ATC/flights.

 

[DCLMP]

As of now, it is open and the house passed it.

The transportation secretary said it would take a few weeks to catch-up. Nothing further was elaborated on regarding ATC/flights.

I expect it will take a week or two before the airline operations are back to normal. It was a big undertaking for them to ramp it down now they have to ramp it back up.
I'm going to assume the ATC will be back to work. The transportation secretary said it would take about a week for them to made whole on their paychecks.
Let's just hope this doesn't happen again.

 

[hardcorestitch]

9:45pm ET is signing time.

 

[nephykupo]

Let's just hope this doesn't happen again.

I hope but think it'll happen again at end of Jan.

 

[DCLMP]

I hope but think it'll happen again at end of Jan.

I should probably bet on that happening again instead of betting on the Super bowl next year.

 

[EACarlson]

I expect it will take a week or two before the airline operations are back to normal. It was a big undertaking for them to ramp it down now they have to ramp it back up.
I'm going to assume the ATC will be back to work. The transportation secretary said it would take about a week for them to made whole on their paychecks.
Let's just hope this doesn't happen again.

Delta's CEO said this morning that once the restrictions are lifted, they'll be back to full schedule in 24 hours. Which is why they hadn't cancelled anything past Thursday as of that time. I haven't seen if they've cancelled anything for Friday or the weekend yet, I think they are waiting to hear from Sec. Duffy when the restrictions will be lifted. I've got a lot of co-workers heading to a convention on Sunday that are getting anxious.

 

[hardcorestitch]

I actually had to take a take home quiz for my interpersonal comm course (yes I got a passing score)… and the end of this shutdown posed something of a “compromise” style of conflict resolution. Win-lose/win-lose. Not everyone got verbatim desires, but somehow it was still a step in the right direction. What perfect timing.

 

[DCLMP]

Delta's CEO said this morning that once the restrictions are lifted, they'll be back to full schedule in 24 hours. Which is why they hadn't cancelled anything past Thursday as of that time. I haven't seen if they've cancelled anything for Friday or the weekend yet, I think they are waiting to hear from Sec. Duffy when the restrictions will be lifted. I've got a lot of co-workers heading to a convention on Sunday that are getting anxious.

Hopefully it works out. My next two two times I have to fly occur before Jan 30. I expect it to happen again. They go on recess from Thanksgiving to January 3. Then theres a new congress and we can rinse and repeat. Luckily I have nothing planned again until July.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

My husband's flight yesterday thru Denver to Idaho went okay but he said they held the plane back at our home airport for a short time. This was because Denver was metering planes in and out spacing them out more. He did say that it was not too long and that he probably wouldn't have even known it was due to Denver metering flights had he not been told. They did land on time in Denver even with the slight delay. It isn't a long taxi at our home airport so the impact there was minimal. At airports that have a long taxi being held back at the gate may have had a larger impact.

He flies back this afternoon so keeping an eye on that.

 

[SL6827]

Why didn't this shutdown affect international travel?

 

[hardcorestitch]

Why didn't this shutdown affect international travel?

Because not all international flights originate from the US and it’s affected airports. The US government was 100% on the hook.

 

[chicagodisneyguy]

Why didn't this shutdown affect international travel?

Airlines had to reduce a certain percentage of flight departures/arrivals....but the government didn't mandate specific flights. Airlines usually give international flights priority so they made the operational decision not to cancel those flights. It's easier for UA or AA to cancel 1 ORD-MCO and re-accommodate the passengers in a reasonable time. It's an entirely different operational headache to have to re-accommodate a full 777 ORD to Rome.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Airlines had to reduce a certain percentage of flight departures/arrivals....but the government didn't mandate specific flights. Airlines usually give international flights priority so they made the operational decision not to cancel those flights. It's easier for UA or AA to cancel 1 ORD-MCO and re-accommodate the passengers in a reasonable time. It's an entirely different operational headache to have to re-accommodate a full 777 ORD to Rome.

Yeah the one poster who disagreed with the rationale I and others said for why international wasn't going to be the priority (the discussion back then was regional or less passenger routes vs international) I believe lives in Europe and may be more used to short-haul flights on average. It's an entirely different animal to have disruptions for international flights.

 

[DCLMP]

Why didn't this shutdown affect international travel?

They might have been affected in the form of delays, but airlines weren't voluntarily cancelling them. There was one day at DFW where the line up of planes to take off was insane. It was a 2 hours on the tarmac from gate to takeoff.

 

[RedHead0186]

Airlines had to reduce a certain percentage of flight departures/arrivals....but the government didn't mandate specific flights. Airlines usually give international flights priority so they made the operational decision not to cancel those flights. It's easier for UA or AA to cancel 1 ORD-MCO and re-accommodate the passengers in a reasonable time. It's an entirely different operational headache to have to re-accommodate a full 777 ORD to Rome.

Not to mention, for some airlines they only have one flight a day going from a US airport to their international Hub. So no only is it a very large plane full of passengers to be disrupted, all those passengers will have to wait literally 24 hours for the next opportunity on that airline (and that flight is likely full or close to full, so it won't be able to accommodate all of the passengers from the cancelled flight).