Good news for SSR fans

We look forward to going back, We own at both BWV and BCV and the SSR contract is our friends, we enjoyed it so much that we now go back every visit just for a nightcap in the Turf Club or "Trot Room" our nickname when we can't remember Turf Club. We drive and love the park near the villa thing, but I like many others love OKW and will not be happy till I have a contract for points there.

We enjoy Artist Point and as mentioned Turf Club, but our biggest disappointment was the Spa. We'll wait a while then try again, but for now it is overpriced and under spa like. Just the opinion of 2 women who enjoy spas while on vacation. We've both been to better spas at resorts w/o all the hype that has gone into promoting this one. Just my humble opinion.

It is a lovely resort, just getting the new kid on the block treatment.
 
Hey, all this talk about SSR has got me puzzled. We stayed there in Oct and had a great time. Walked over to DTD a few times, used both the main pool and the leisure pool. I thought it looked rather nice. Maybe because I own most of my points at OKW it seems nice to me. I like the way it is laid out, not cramped or squeezed in. We're heading there for a second stay tomorrow. We check in Friday afternoon and we will have a great time. What's really nice is the closeness of the spa - the exercise room is huge, plus the spa treatments will be great. I've already had a massage there and it was wonderful.

I think as the resort is finished, it will only improve. Construction sure doesn't show off the beauty of a place.
 
Tjkraz,
First, I'm glad you like SSR. I hope all of the owners feel that way.
I don't own at SSR, and I haven't stayed at every DVC resort. But I can find SOMETHING that appeals to me at every resort except SSR (I detest Downtown Disney).
Some of the same complaints I have about SSR could be made about OKW. But at least OKW has big rooms and low point prices. John F. Kennedy once described Waschington DC as a combination of northern charm and southern efficiency, and that's more or less how I feel about SSR.

tjkraz said:
Will it get harder to book those resorts inside of 7 months? Sure will. But you've got you 7 month window and that's all that was ever promised.
The mere fact that it will get HARDER to book at other resorts inside the 7 month window is proof that SSR is inferior. If it were equal to or better than the other resorts, it would have no effect or even make it easier to book elsewhere, as everyone would be trying to get into SSR.

My real problem with SSR is the sheer number of units. If it were limited to 200 units, I would say it was a great addition to the DVC line-up. I wouldn't want to stay there, but I could see how it might appeal to others. But instead they are making SSR the biggest DVC resort of all, and I can assure you that I am not a group of one in having no desire to stay there.

I really am glad you like SSR, but I do hope you understand why many of us have negative feelings about the resort.
 
We stayed at SSR for the 1st time May 16 - 20 (then stayed at POR for the first time--which we actually loved!). Here's my list of pros and cons:

PRO:

1. LOVED the zero-depth entry pool! Was heated (I think!) and clean...never too crowded, though it seemed kind of "full" with about 20 people in it.

2. Immaculate housekeeping...absolutely nothing out of order.

3. Beautiful furnishings and linens in rooms, seemed very new and of good quality.

4. From Congress Park, we had a lovely view of DTD and I liked the fact that, during daylight hours, we could walk to DTD (sign said closed dusk to dawn.)


CON:

1. Experienced let-down when I entered the bare and somewhat cold registration building. They need to at least have more decorative things on the walls, maybe some large potted plants around...put something in there!

2. Disliked view of parking lots everywhere we went on property.

3. Extremely subtle theme---or is there one? Having been to Saratoga Springs, NY, I have to say that while it's lovely, I don't think it's a strong enough "theme" for a Disney resort. I hate to say it, but I did feel as if we could have been at the Wyndham Resort--which is right across the street from where we would turn in to go to the parking lot nearest Congress Park.

4. Location. I thought I'd LOVE the location, but seeing all the non-Disney hotels whenever we came and went by car seemed too much of a non-Disney-intrusion for my escapist preference. :flower:

Neutral:

1. I think the landscaping will look spectacular with time, but right now, it's at the spindly tree and small plant stage. With full-grown trees, this may soften the exterior feel of the resort considerably.

Karla B. :earsboy: :earsgirl: :earsboy:
 

I haven't stayed at SSR, but have visited and looked inside a couple times.

I really liked this resort. The furnishings, and interior in general are the nicest in the fleet. The exterior was nice, and will get even better as construction winds down.
I love DTD, so the location is great for us.

I do agree that the check-in could use some more "stuff".

I guess my only real complaint about SSR is the lack of a dumpster view. :(

MG
 
We stayed at SSR this past weekend for the first time. We loved everything about this Resort. The pool area was nice and large, compared to WL and BW (IMO) they are very confined. The lounge chairs were very comfy, I wish all the resorts had these chairs. We liked the parking right outside the front door.
Thought the food was pretty good and not expensive. You can refill the mug right there at the pool, with out asking the bartender to do it.
Would stay there again in a heartbeat.

:earsgirl: :earsboy:
 
Mississippian says : The mere fact that it will get HARDER to book at other resorts inside the 7 month window is proof that SSR is inferior .
Don't buy this statement. I think the SIZE of the respective resorts has ALOT to do with the fact that it may get harder to book at less than 7 months out. The sheer number of rooms slated to be at SSR with a percentage of those owners wishing to trade out and sample another DVC resort is going to be obviously more than say the amount of BCV/VWL owners wishing to trade out based simply on the number of owners at each resort. I KNOW that BWV/BCV/VWL owners trade out to other resorts as well. I've read MANY accounts of DIS'ers who have done this and say they will continue to do it. Does this make THOSE resorts inferior because they desire to trade out and sample some other DVC resorts ? I just think it's more noticeable when SSR Members trade out because there are more of them attempting to get less rooms whereas if a BCV/VWL owner (i.e.) trades out to OKW or SSR, it's less noticeable because there are so many more rooms to choose from at the larger resorts. I don't feel it has anything to do with SSR being an "inferior" resort :confused3
 
MiaSRN62 said:
Don't buy this statement. I think the SIZE of the respective resorts has ALOT to do with the fact that it may get harder to book at less than 7 months out. The sheer number of rooms slated to be at SSR with a percentage of those owners wishing to trade out and sample another DVC resort is going to be obviously more than say the amount of BCV/VWL owners wishing to trade out based simply on the number of owners at each resort. I KNOW that BWV/BCV/VWL owners trade out to other resorts as well. I've read MANY accounts of DIS'ers who have done this and say they will continue to do it. Does this make THOSE resorts inferior because they desire to trade out and sample some other DVC resorts ? I just think it's more noticeable when SSR Members trade out because there are more of them attempting to get less rooms whereas if a BCV/VWL owner (i.e.) trades out to OKW or SSR, it's less noticeable because there are so many more rooms to choose from at the larger resorts. I don't feel it has anything to do with SSR being an "inferior" resort :confused3
I agree! I liked lots of things about SSR, but my beef is that the room arrangement is basically the same as BWV, BCV, VWL, and it is not an arrangement that works well for us. I guess we have grown too accustomed to OKW.
 
I don't want to get myself into a big debate about SSR. I think by now everyone here knows how I feel about it :lovestruc
The great thing about DVC is, there is something for everyone, and we are all entitled to our own feelings.
But I can assure you, there ARE people who bought there and want to stay there. At first reading negative posts made me defensive, like I had to list all the reasons someone should love it. Now, I could care less what anyone thinks. This may sound immature (but I don't care) if someone hates it, that's all the more assurance that I can get a ressies there when I want it. All the more room for me. :)
 
I own at SSR and my 1st stay was at BW.It was homecoming and SSr was booked (only 2 buildings were done). It was a great place but no offense ,if I had to rate it, (which I didn't until now) it was "inferior" to SSR. Our room had wear and tear and the view was ok,( pool view). I have since stayed at SSR three times and got a stunning veiw of DTD and my kids like it the best of all of the resorts that we have stayed at, DVC and other resorts. Now this summer we are going to BCV because we are going with another couple. It is nice to be able to try other resorts. As long as there is room, why not. Just because I won't stay at SSR every time doesn't mean I don't like it. So far it is my favorite :love: .

SSR are not the only ones switching resorts. Don't most people stay at resorts other than their home resort at some time or another? If you don't, what are you worried about you have 11 month advantage.
:grouphug:
 
Athenna says : At first reading negative posts made me defensive, like I had to list all the reasons someone should love it. Now, I could care less what anyone thinks.
This is a great way to view it. I understand about getting defensive about one's "home". After all, owners have invested alot of their money (and dreams) into that purchase and it can be difficult to listen to someone slam it as "inferior" and "yuk"(often times not even having stayed at the resort). Heck, SSR isn't even my "home" and I find myself taken aback by some of the comments.....lol I have a friend at work who owns at BCV and has only stayed at OKW. She says she likes the size and lower points. I think everyone has their own reasons for preferring a certain resort.

But you're right.....it really shouldn't matter what others think about it because as long as you're happy then all is good with the world. Not every resort can be liked. There are just way too many different tastes and preferences out there. That's why DVC offers the mix they do.

SSR are not the only ones switching resorts. Don't most people stay at resorts other than their home resort at some time or another?
This was my point as well Kelly. I've read many accounts of people owning at the smaller resorts and trading out to OKW or wherever. I just don't feel it impacts the reservation system as much because there are so fewer owners at the smaller DVC resorts and so many more rooms at the larger resorts. So when they trade out, it's just not as noticeable. Has nothing to do with the larger resorts being "inferior".
 
MiaSRN62 said:
Don't buy this statement. I think the SIZE of the respective resorts has ALOT to do with the fact that it may get harder to book at less than 7 months out. The sheer number of rooms slated to be at SSR with a percentage of those owners wishing to trade out and sample another DVC resort is going to be obviously more than say the amount of BCV/VWL owners wishing to trade out based simply on the number of owners at each resort. I KNOW that BWV/BCV/VWL owners trade out to other resorts as well. I've read MANY accounts of DIS'ers who have done this and say they will continue to do it. Does this make THOSE resorts inferior because they desire to trade out and sample some other DVC resorts ? I just think it's more noticeable when SSR Members trade out because there are more of them attempting to get less rooms whereas if a BCV/VWL owner (i.e.) trades out to OKW or SSR, it's less noticeable because there are so many more rooms to choose from at the larger resorts. I don't feel it has anything to do with SSR being an "inferior" resort :confused3

Bingo!!! :goodvibes
 
Well, what I was really thinking about the busing within SSR is that you board the bus, it makes the circle around the complex, and then exits to its intended destinations. For example, it stops at the Carriage House, Congress Park, the Springs, and then for example, Epcot, before it returns to the resort. Someone at the very last bus stop would have a huge ride before the bus ever makes it back to the stop at Congress Park, unless they walked over to the temporary stop at the Carriage House. I even think it would be a long walk from The Springs area to DTD, especially in high heat and humidity.

I'm not particularly panning SSR. I thought the rooms were quite nice, not too dark at all. The kitchen in my room was a lovely shade of mint green and the upholstry colors complemented the furniture well. If you'd be down for a golf holiday, it'd be one of the best places to stay.

Am just now on phone with MS and the cast member with whom I spoke said that last April, 5 buildings with approximately 80 units (of varied size) were open so that was roughly 400 units. I also asked about eventual size of the resort and she said it would be about double OKW, which she said had 700 units. SSR is supposed to have 18 buildings.

It's going to be a huge resort, and unlike some of the other WDW resorts like GF or Contemporary or whatever, the transportation around SSR is different simply because of how the resort is laid out. As far as BWV or BCV is concerned, you can either choose to walk to either the Studios or Epcot, respectively, or take the bus or boat. I still maintain that the walk from the farther most buildings to DTD will find most guests taking the DTD bus.
 
bongo59 said:
we arrive at SSR on 6/12 and it will be our 4th time back............we own at every resort and find that each one is different and offers different vacations..........we love the change............and sometimes even the forced change of a new resort grows on you after a while..............we used to be creates of habit with respect to DVC but we really have opened our eyes to other alternatives with our DVC ownership.........i think you'll evolve over time like most long termers have done.


While I appreciated your experiences....I really don't think I"ll stray to many times from my beloved BWV. 8 Years and 10 stays at BWV I'm not sure when I hit long term status but I don't think I'll change. I own 3 contracts there and I really don't have any urge to stay at any other resort. Well, my kids want to stay at BCV so they can use the pool....but I haven't given in yet.

I'm sure we will enjoy our stay at SSR but after visiting last July there were just many things about the resort that didn't appeal to me.
 
I even think it would be a long walk from The Springs area to DTD, especially in high heat and humidity.
I don't know, but people always toot BCV/BWV as a perk because they can "walk" to the parks (which it is a plus for many).
We did this in the summer of 2003 and it's at least a 15 min walk to Epcot from the room we had and a 20+ min walk to MGM. I've read posts where people complain about walking from the Southpoint area of OKW to the Hospitality House---yet have no issues with the same distance (or often longer) walks from BWV/BCV to the parks ? True, one can take the boats from BWV/BCV (which we did), but then all resorts have some sort of transportation option. We actually opted for the boats often at BWV when we had my mil with us. We had 10-15 min waits at times plus the 10-15 min boat ride itself. My mil couldn't handle the extra walking to and from the BWV.
SSR has boat/bus/walk. So there's something for everyone at every resort.
 
Well, I certainly wouldn't use "yuck" to describe SSR. It IS a DVC resort, which means it's high quality. Maybe if I had never been to VWL or BCV, I would have thought it was great- the first thing I said to my wife when we realized we were disappointed was that "we're getting spoiled." It just didn't appeal to me, for alot of the same reasons it DOES appeal to others.

As for trading, I own the largest portion of my points at BWV, and I haven't been back there since our first DVC stay. If I could trade them for VWL points, or BCV points, I would in a minute. Although I would like to try it again sometime, to give it another shot.

Now I've got people at TWO resorts mad at me ;)
 
Zurgswife says : I really don't think I"ll stray to many times from my beloved BWV. 8 Years and 10 stays at BWV I'm not sure when I hit long term status but I don't think I'll change.
I think the majority of folks love their "home" resort, but many just like a little variety in their vacations and this is what is nice about DVC. I know we've tried Vero, BWV, VWL (once each) even though our home is OKW. Almost tried HH but had to cancel due to an illness in the family. Do I feel OKW is inferior because we tried the other resorts ? No, of course not.
We always seem to come back to OKW, but the kids just like to try new experiences. Not everyone feels this way and that's ok. I know friends of mine who won't vacation anywhere else but the Jersey shore in the same beach house they did when they were a kid. Some just enjoy a comfortable tradition.

largest portion of my points at BWV, and I haven't been back there since our first DVC stay. If I could trade them for VWL points, or BCV points, I would in a minute. Although I would like to try it again sometime, to give it another shot.
See ? I knew Members at resorts other than SSR traded out ! Glad you've been able to take advantage of the DVC flexibility and variety.

Now I've got people at TWO resorts mad at me
Too funny Synonymous ! Start ducking :duck:
 
fkj2 said:
Well, what I was really thinking about the busing within SSR is that you board the bus, it makes the circle around the complex, and then exits to its intended destinations. For example, it stops at the Carriage House, Congress Park, the Springs, and then for example, Epcot, before it returns to the resort. Someone at the very last bus stop would have a huge ride before the bus ever makes it back to the stop at Congress Park, unless they walked over to the temporary stop at the Carriage House.

And that's exactly what they should do. The "temporary stop" at the Carriage House is right across the street from the permanent Springs bus stop. If you wanted to get from the main pool area to Congress Park, obviously you just walk across the road and grab a bus that's headed for CP.

I even think it would be a long walk from The Springs area to DTD, especially in high heat and humidity.

That's why they offer bus service, too.

But it's still no further than the walk from, say, BWV to MGM.

Am just now on phone with MS and the cast member with whom I spoke said that last April, 5 buildings with approximately 80 units (of varied size) were open so that was roughly 400 units. I also asked about eventual size of the resort and she said it would be about double OKW, which she said had 700 units. SSR is supposed to have 18 buildings.

With all due respect to MS, those numbers have quite a bit of margin for error.

Each SSR building has 2 Grand Villas, 20 Dedicated 2B Villas and 24 Lockoff 2B Villas. That's a total of 46 units per building, or 824 over 18 buildings.

By comparison, OKW has 531 total units. That makes SSR 55% larger than OKW.

Now, if you want to talk about max available units, assuming all lockoffs are booked separately as a Studio and 1B, then SSR will have 1260 vs. 761 at OKW. In that comparison, SSR is 66% larger.

Of course it's open to debate as to how many lockoffs are actually booked as a 1B + Studio.

It's going to be a huge resort, and unlike some of the other WDW resorts like GF or Contemporary or whatever, the transportation around SSR is different simply because of how the resort is laid out.

Yes it will be different, but I'm not clear on how that makes it inferior.

Want to get from Congress Park to the main pool? Either walk 5 minutes or jump on a bus to the stop at The Springs.

Want to get from The Springs to DTD? Either walk 15 minutes or take the bus.

As far as BWV or BCV is concerned, you can either choose to walk to either the Studios or Epcot, respectively, or take the bus or boat.

Not quite true. BWV and BCV do not have bus service to Epcot or MGM--it's either walk or take the boat.

I still maintain that the walk from the farther most buildings to DTD will find most guests taking the DTD bus.

And that may well be the case. I wouldn't argue otherwise since it would be about a 3 minute bus ride. But I don't see how this is a knock on the resort. Back to the SSR vs. BCV / BWV comparison, if you choose not to walk, you can get from SSR to DTD on a bus MUCH faster than from BCV / BWV to MGM via boat.
 
I believe, at anytime, Disney can change the 7, 11 rule. It could be as Disney continues to build out DVC resorts and sells contracts the rule might become 6, 12; or even 8, 10.

Just a thought.
 
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Originally Posted by tjkraz
But it's still no further than the walk from, say, BWV to MGM.

I wouldn't walk from BWV to the Studios either in high heat and humidity, not after spending any significant time at the park, so don't bother comparing the walks for me. The only reason I would to or from BWV to Epcot would be to save time, or to stop at the bakery on the way back.

tjkraz said:
Yes it will be different, but I'm not clear on how that makes it inferior.
And where , in my post, did I say that that would make SSR inferior ?


I just don't think that when the entire resort is completed that those buildings farthest out will be as amenable to families travelling with small children or elders as some of the other DVC. For those who haven't had the opportunity to encounter the special challenges that travelling to WDW, either as an elder or with one, I can assure you that it's not the easiest thing to do. Worthwhile, yes, easy, no.
 



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