Good news for SSR fans

[granmanh603]

I can't believe this thread had gone on soooo long. My only comment is that I don't think anyones comments are "unfounded" , everyone has a right to state the way they felt about a resort...some do it better than others. We own at BWV and SSR . We bought SSR before you could get in and then stayed there Last October. I feel the way some as some of the "unfounded" comments but my husband likes it!!!! Just my 2 cents.

 

[tjkraz]

I predict if the SSR put-downs continue on like they have it's gonna be REALLY, REALLY difficult to get the smaller resorts because alot of folks will be booking those based on derogatory comments they read here.

Amen.

 

[gjw007]

I've been trying to read the good and not so good between work and decided to change my reservation while there's still availability @ VWL. I've stayed at WL many times and know the property. Maybe we'll make a visit to SSR to check things out for another time.

I am sorry to hear that some of the comments forced you to change your plans. If each of the resorts were rated on a scale of 0 to 100, no resort would be a 0 and no resort would be a 100. There are features at all resorts that people will like and some features that people won't like. I believe that all the DVC resorts would rate in the 90s. So simply because one person doesn't like a particular resort, for whatever reason, the resorts are still nice. It is unfortunately that the strongly phrased personal opinions of others caused you to change your reservation plans. What may have been right for them may not be right for you.

I have not yet stayed at SSR (I've walked through and toured it twice) but it is a very, very nice resort. Yes, there are features that if I was designing the resort (all resorts, not just SSR) I would do different but isn't that true of all things? Enjoy your vacation.

 

[lllovell]

I can't believe this thread had gone on soooo long. My only comment is that I don't think anyones comments are "unfounded" , everyone has a right to state the way they felt about a resort...some do it better than others. We own at BWV and SSR . We bought SSR before you could get in and then stayed there Last October. I feel the way some as some of the "unfounded" comments but my husband likes it!!!! Just my 2 cents.

Its not about WHAT people are saying, but how they say it.

I can certainly tell you why I loved Cirque last weekend and someone else could easily tell you (using descriptions so others can understand) why they didn't and if they tell you and give examples (instead of just saying "what a waste of money") then your input is so much more valuable.

Also, many of the posts about SSR have basically said "horrible" over and over and lets face it - its a DVC resort. It will have fantastic rooms and services and great bus service and lots of other positives. It will certainly not be "horrible" or else we would all sell our points and move on. It might not fit my taste, but that doesn't make it horrible.

Again, I say, its all in how you choose to present things.

 

[athenna]

Its not about WHAT people are saying, but how they say it.


Exactly, my point. I have no problem with people that ''hate'' SSR. I do, however, have a problem with people that present THEIR feelings as ''facts''. I.E. ''horrible'' ''yuck'' etc. That isn't a documented fact, that is someone's own thoughts.

 

[tjkraz]

My only comment is that I don't think anyones comments are "unfounded" , everyone has a right to state the way they felt about a resort...

Respectfully, I think you're quoting MiaSRN62 a bit out of context.

My own take on this has been that nobody has been attacked for their own personal feelings about the resort. The original poster said that he didn't like having to look at the parking lots and didn't care for the color of the pool. I don't see anyone taking him to task for making those comments. Those are personal opinions / feelings on which there is no room for debate.

The comments which are "unfounded" in my mind are:

1. Factual Errors. Someone said that you can't walk to DTD after dark. Not true. Another post implied that the point values to book a room at SSR was the same as BCV / BWV / VWL. Also not true. Factual errors deserve to be corrected.

2. Posters who claim to speak for more than him/herself. One post began "...I believe DVC is doing a real disservice to its members by..." and then began to rail on SSR for issues that he/she didn't appreciate.

Speak for yourself. I shouldn't have to defend the fact that I like the resort any more that someone else should have to defend their dislike for it.

 

[Mic]

We arrive at SSR in 11 days and I'm afraid those will be my feelings as well. We never intended on staying at SSR but when you do a last minute trip during the summer...you take what is available. But I'm hoping I'm surprised and don't have the feelings you described.

Is there a way to walk to DTD from SSR??

I am checking into SSR on June 12th, having moved us from OKW, because we needed to add the night of the 12th to our reservation, and OKW did not have a 2-bedroom available. The family(mostly DH) is upset with me, so I am crossing my fingers and hoping the resort surpasses all expectations! Now I feel really good...the badshoe bunch will be there at the same time! We, too, have 4 kids(16,15,12,11), and are BWV owners. Hope to see you there!

 

[granmanh603]

Respectfully, I think you're quoting MiaSRN62 a bit out of context.

My own take on this has been that nobody has been attacked for their own personal feelings about the resort. The original poster said that he didn't like having to look at the parking lots and didn't care for the color of the pool. I don't see anyone taking him to task for making those comments. Those are personal opinions / feelings on which there is no room for debate.

The comments which are "unfounded" in my mind are:

1. Factual Errors. Someone said that you can't walk to DTD after dark. Not true. Another post implied that the point values to book a room at SSR was the same as BCV / BWV / VWL. Also not true. Factual errors deserve to be corrected.




2. Posters who claim to speak for more than him/herself. One post began "...I believe DVC is doing a real disservice to its members by..." and then began to rail on SSR for issues that he/she didn't appreciate.

Speak for yourself. I shouldn't have to defend the fact that I like the resort any more that someone else should have to defend their dislike for it.

MIAARN62 exact comment was "harsh unfounded comments" refering to opinion....I would refer to the ones you detailed 1 & 2 as unfactual or inaccurate and yes they should be corrected but I was not refering to them. But the posts attacking peoples comment because they don't agree. By the way VWL is great and you will have a wonderful time....my opinion only.

 

[MiaSRN62]

Its not about WHAT people are saying, but how they say it.

Thank you lllovell ! Exactly !

Granmanh603 says : MIAARN62 exact comment was "harsh unfounded comments" refering to opinion....

Not sure if you've followed this entire 10+ page thread, but if you did and if you read all of my posts in this thread you'd realize I'm referring to just the way people come across and the types of words they use. Sure if someone doesn't like a resort, that's fine. State experiences/facts in a fair and objective way.....NOT using words like "YUK", "inferior"....etc. I don't even think some of these people have even stayed at SSR ?
As an example :

Mississippian says : DVC is flooding the market with an absolutely inferior product. A very substantial percentage of SSR purchasers really don't want to stay there.

Are we to believe this is FACT ? I don't think so. And was this necessary ???? :

Mississippian says : it will be very difficult to use our points on a decent resorts, and so we will HAVE to stay at SSR. Yuk!

OR :

but it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that for MOST people resorts such as BCV, BWV and VWL are far more appealing than SSR.

Is this all based on fact ? Was there a Member-wide official poll taken ? Because the number of DVC Members here on these boards is a drop-in-the-bucket compared to membership overall ?
There were statements made by Mississippian which I can respect, but largely I just feel they were trying to incite ill feelings towards this resort. I just don't see the point of that.

I'll repeat, as I've done several times now, the OP of this thread did not like SSR and I totally respect the way they shared their personal experiences and first-hand insights. Unfortunately, I cannot say that for a couple others. There's no need to slam any particular DVC resort. Everything the OP stated negative about SSR was based on objective facts they personally witnessed or experienced and there was no use of unnecessary derogatory adjectives. It's just unnecessary and stirs up emotions that don't need to be on these boards. JMHO.

Granmanh603 says : But the posts attacking peoples comment because they don't agree.

Well, if they're allowed to attack positive posts made about SSR with words like "YUK", "inferior" etc, then I guess we all can respond to that, if that's the way you see it I can tell you that Mississippian probably responded as they did because THEY didn't agree with MY opinion (as well as many others here). So my post above (#140) is MY opinion. I don't mind if Mississippian doesn't agree with my opinion, but rather it is how they delivered the message (the words/tone). Sorry granmanh603 if you think I was the one being harsh or unfair.

 

[Wish I lived in Fl]

In my opinion, OKW has some of the same problems for me as SSR, but OKW makes up for it with low point rentals and extra-large rooms. SSR offers neither.

Also people may be buying SSR because they want the extra years in addition to those buying SSR because it is their favorite.
The extra years of SSR weren't a factor in choosing which DVC to buy before.

SSR doesn't thrill me. Maybe because i went to school by the real Saratoga Springs and SSR doesn't capture the essence for me.

 

[UrsulasShadow]

Place needs horses......

 

[granmanh603]

The horses are dead...beaten to death....see page 5

 

[UrsulasShadow]

The horses are dead...beaten to death....see page 5

I think THOSE horses were dead before they got there! But really, don't you think a resort based on a horse-racing theme might get a few paddocks, possibly offer up carriage rides? They do it at other resorts (FW, POR/FQ).

 

[mark&sue]

We bought at SSR because we could walk to Crossroads and DTD and have different dining options during our annual two week stay, when not dining in the parks or other resorts. We like to drink so don't need the car during the evening and don't notice (or remember) the walk back!!! During the day we can drive to the parks and take the bus on the evenings we need to.

Before we bought into DVC we used to stay at POFQ so we could get the boat/bus to DTD then walk to Crossroads!!! We also stayed at Grosvenor to get close to the location but hated the hotel. We could not believe our luck that this location came up.

We have stayed at Grand Floridian and still find SSR location better.

When we go away we love to walk especially after all those heavy meals during our stay. I know we are in the minority so I guess we are just plain lucky.

We have just come back from SSR and the walk from SSR to DTD was nothing to us (we had five year old in our party with us). We walked twice in one evening.

We love SSR but after 10 years plus I am sure we will try other resorts too or split our vacation and go to VB or HH, but will not mean SSR is inferior!

Can't wait to go back next year.




Susan

 

[della]

We just returned from SSR. We found the walk to DTD easy for the most part. It did rain the one time we wanted to go so we took the bus. We took the boat once but the wait was long and when it finally came it could not fit the 10 or so people waiting. We had to wait for another boat (which the first capt called for). It came in another 10 mins but we waited about 40 mins in all. Also, one late afternoon we walked over for dinner. I had showered before we left but with the 90+ degree heat and high humidity, I felt sweaty and gross by the time we arrived at the restaurant.

My expectations were not high for SSR, but I have to say I did enjoy being there. We had a first floor patio and the kids could run a little and burn off some energy. We were in the first building by the "seasons statues". The pool was a huge hit and we had no problem walking there. My 12, 8 and 6 year olds loved the big slide and the 3 yr old loved the little slide and the Donald sprinkler area. I loved the zero entry which was great for my little guy.

I agree there could be more food available (especially for kids). The closest thing we had there to kid friendly food was when we had Papa John's pizza delivered to our room! I didn't have any idea that food was served in the Turf Club. What do they have there?

 

[Deb & Bill]

We just returned today from 7 nights in a studio at Congress Park and three nights at BCV in a one bedroom. Both places were wonderful, about as different as you can get. We think SSR is a beautiful resort. And when it is completed it will be even more so. We had a wonderful time at both places and felt lucky we could be there. Bus transportation to and from both was excellent. We didn't use the boat at SSR. We used the boat from BCV once to Disney Studios because of the rain and we felt lazy.

We had wonderful cast members at both resorts, friendly, helpful and pleasant.

We own at OKW, BCV and VWL. We won't buy points at SSR because we have all we really need for now. But we will stay there because it is such a nice resort - relaxing, really beautiful, easy to move about.