Girls Only Trip (old thread, link to new thread in first post)

[Stacerita]

I'd be asking DD what the name is of the cute guy she sees in the mornings? LOL

She claims its just to hang with her friends and go over homework and stuff. But who knows. Im just glad I don't have to get her out of bed in the mornings. She is up and ready before I even open my eyes.

That's why I never do one. It would drag on and on and on ... you get the point!

Didn't anyone notice my new ticker I made yesterday?

Cute ticker. And TRs aren't as hard as you would think. Heck, I even did one.

I've never seen Tremors. Is it any good?

Its good in a cheesy way. I actually think its quite funny really. Its something you got to see.

I made spaghetti and meatballs today for dinner (Mondays are always my night to make dinner) and it was yummy! Time to eat again (I ate "linner" at 3:30).

I will most likely be going to the gym, unless I can't overcome this sleepyness.

I thought DBF was the only one who talked about "linner"

 

[trodrigue]

Okay, please tell me I am not nuts. I was reading my 12 year old sons text that he is using in Lit class. It is called Stuck in Nuetral and has won a gazillion awards for young adult fiction. However...I skimmed the first 5 chapters and it mentions (excuse my language, please) "dicks, hard ons, ****s, and discusses "retards". Is it just me, or is my 12 year old a bit young for these topics. I do not consider him a young adult, just yet!

 

[stacielee]

I made spaghetti and meatballs today for dinner (Mondays are always my night to make dinner) and it was yummy! Time to eat again (I ate "linner" at 3:30).

I will most likely be going to the gym, unless I can't overcome this sleepyness.

Too funny! We also had spaghetti and meatballs for dinner; well, my DD who is trying to be a vegetarian had spaghetti and sauce, no meatballs. It was also yummy!!

 

[bigskyernurse]

Ugh, sorry about your computer. I'm glad it's working again though.



Thanks for sharing! How cool. And your kids are so cute.




That's ok, the second weekend is too close to Ruben's b-day anyway. It's the 13th and we might be doing something the weekend before.
So what about either Sunday the 4th or Sunday the 18th?

Amy, if you are reading along, either of those better for you? They will both work for me, so I'll let you and Jane decide.

Let me check my weekend rotation tomorrow so I can see if I am not on call for one of those weekends (so I won't have the phone attached to my ear this time). I'll post when I get home tomorrow. Looking forward to it!!

 

[bigskyernurse]

Okay, please tell me I am not nuts. I was reading my 12 year old sons text that he is using in Lit class. It is called Stuck in Nuetral and has won a gazillion awards for young adult fiction. However...I skimmed the first 5 chapters and it mentions (excuse my language, please) "dicks, hard ons, ****s, and discusses "retards". Is it just me, or is my 12 year old a bit young for these topics. I do not consider him a young adult, just yet!

Hi Tracy,

Is your son in 7th grade? Just curious because my oldest is in 6th and I am sooo not ready for these topics yet. I googled this book and it seems it has been used in 9-12th grade curriculum. I did find the following comment on a web page about censorship in schools:

Stuck in Neutral Under Review

Terry Trueman's Stuck in Neutral, an in-depth look at a 14-year-old boy's struggle with cerebral palsy, has been removed from the eighth grade classrooms of a middle school in Evansville, Wisconsin. Parents objected to the book's use of foul language and candid exploration of the sexual thoughts of the main character. Teacher Kim Stieber-White defends her choice of the book, saying it provides her students with a unique, intimate perspective for her classroom discussion of disabilities. The school board is reviewing complaints about the book.

 

[wendylady36]

Okay, please tell me I am not nuts. I was reading my 12 year old sons text that he is using in Lit class. It is called Stuck in Nuetral and has won a gazillion awards for young adult fiction. However...I skimmed the first 5 chapters and it mentions (excuse my language, please) "dicks, hard ons, ****s, and discusses "retards". Is it just me, or is my 12 year old a bit young for these topics. I do not consider him a young adult, just yet!

If you're nuts, I'm nuts! 12 years old, and this is what he is reading!? What happened to "Where the Red Fern Grows"? I don't think 12 should be considered young adult. I would not want any of the 12 year olds I know to read something like that!

 

[21yankees]

Okay, please tell me I am not nuts. I was reading my 12 year old sons text that he is using in Lit class. It is called Stuck in Nuetral and has won a gazillion awards for young adult fiction. However...I skimmed the first 5 chapters and it mentions (excuse my language, please) "dicks, hard ons, ****s, and discusses "retards". Is it just me, or is my 12 year old a bit young for these topics. I do not consider him a young adult, just yet!

Okay I just looked this book up on Barnes and Noble and it looks like it's geared towards teenagers and young adults. Definitely seems a bit too mature (to say the least) for a 12 year old. I don't think I'd feel comfortable with my kids reading those things at that age. Can you talk to the teacher and/or school district?

steph

 

[wendylady36]

Hi Tracy,

Is your son in 7th grade? Just curious because my oldest is in 6th and I am sooo not ready for these topics yet. I googled this book and it seems it has been used in 9-12th grade curriculum. I did find the following comment on a web page about censorship in schools:

Stuck in Neutral Under Review

Terry Trueman's Stuck in Neutral, an in-depth look at a 14-year-old boy's struggle with cerebral palsy, has been removed from the eighth grade classrooms of a middle school in Evansville, Wisconsin. Parents objected to the book's use of foul language and candid exploration of the sexual thoughts of the main character. Teacher Kim Stieber-White defends her choice of the book, saying it provides her students with a unique, intimate perspective for her classroom discussion of disabilities. The school board is reviewing complaints about the book.

It doesn't seem age appropriate to me. I would think that they would chose a different tool for teaching the subject to younger children. I've heard and seen some pretty unbelievable things when I worked for the City of Roseville's Park and Rec department. I worked as a teacher in their before and after school program for K-6. It's amazing the things these kids know! It never ceased to shock me!

 

[Stacerita]

I wouldn't want DD reading that at her age.

 

[mommaU4]

That sounds so good. I'm having total cereal for dinner tonight....


steph

Well, you are doing good!

Ruben went out and ended up bringing home Chinese food for all of us, and a rose for me. Not an enchilada but I'll take it!! LOL

I thought DBF was the only one who talked about "linner"

We use that word too.

Okay, please tell me I am not nuts. I was reading my 12 year old sons text that he is using in Lit class. It is called Stuck in Nuetral and has won a gazillion awards for young adult fiction. However...I skimmed the first 5 chapters and it mentions (excuse my language, please) "dicks, hard ons, ****s, and discusses "retards". Is it just me, or is my 12 year old a bit young for these topics. I do not consider him a young adult, just yet!

Well, I can see I'm in the minority here, but honestly Tracey, like it or not, I bet you he is hearing way worse then that in school. It's just the way it is.

None of those words are off limits for my son Adam. He's 13, almost 14, but we've been having open, frank conversations since he was 11. If he asks, I answer.
Those words, and phrases are out there, and I'd rather explain to my DS what they mean and whether or not they are appropriate, then have them explained by his friends. And who knows what they are telling him. This way I know what he's learning.

Anyway, good luck, but I'd bet anything, he's already hearing stuff like that around school.

 

[mommaU4]

I worked as a teacher in their before and after school program for K-6. It's amazing the things these kids know! It never ceased to shock me!

See that's what I mean. As parents we may not be ready for this, or want to deal with it, but trust me, kids are hearing things younger and younger. It's scary. But it's out there. And as a parent I'd rather be the one to discuss these things with my kids ahead of time so when they do come across it in a book or a conversation with their friends, they already have true and accurate information and definitions from me. If that makes sense.....

 

[Stacerita]

Well, I can see I'm in the minority here, but honestly Tracey, like it or not, I bet you he is hearing way worse then that in school. It's just the way it is.

None of those words are off limits for my son Adam. He's 13, almost 14, but we've been having open, frank conversations since he was 11. If he asks, I answer.
Those words, and phrases are out there, and I'd rather explain to my DS what they mean and whether or not they are appropriate, then have them explained by his friends. And who knows what they are telling him. This way I know what he's learning.

Anyway, good luck, but I'd bet anything, he's already hearing stuff like that around school.

I wouldn't say you are in the minority here. Although I don't want DD reading it at her age, I know she must have heard those words before. And her and I do have open and frank talks. So I am not "shielding" her from that stuff. But I don't think stories like that have a place in the class room.

I remember reading Catcher in the Rye when I was in Jr High and I couldn't believe some of those words at that time. Then again, I was pretty sheltered growing up.

 

[mommaU4]

I wouldn't say you are in the minority here. Although I don't want DD reading it at her age, I know she must have heard those words before. And her and I do have open and frank talks. So I am not "shielding" her from that stuff. But I don't think stories like that have a place in the class room.

I remember reading Catcher in the Rye when I was in Jr High and I couldn't believe some of those words at that time. Then again, I was pretty sheltered growing up.

Well, that's good that you two are open and talk about things. I learned way too much from my friends growing up , so I vowed not to do that with my kids. We talk about everything! LOL
When we first moved here Adam asked me what a Gentlemen's Club was so we had to have that talk. But I don't make a big deal out of it. I just explain and then answer any questions in a matter of fact way.

As for reading that book in class.......I don't think it would bother me, but then again, not a lot does. I can see how some parents would be upset. Maybe the teacher could have sent home letters explaining about the book, along with a permission slip.

 

[wendylady36]

I wouldn't say you are in the minority here. Although I don't want DD reading it at her age, I know she must have heard those words before. And her and I do have open and frank talks. So I am not "shielding" her from that stuff. But I don't think stories like that have a place in the class room.

I'd rather my child her it from me first. I know for most books like that, we needed our parents signature that said it was OK for us to be learning what was taught in the book. I wouldn't want my child going into that book and not understanding what was going on with the language that was being used. Also, I think some of those words are a little mature, and I can't really imagine a productive classroom conversation resulting in the use of them. Maybe I should just finally become a teacher and make all the little kiddies read Twilight! Oh man, would their be parents knocking on my door!

 

[mommaU4]

Maybe I should just finally become a teacher and make all the little kiddies read Twilight! Oh man, would their be parents knocking on my door!

OMG, you'd have them all obsessing over Edward and monkey brides! I'd rather have my kid reading about that other stuff.

 

[wendylady36]

OMG, you'd have them all obsessing over Edward and monkey brides! I'd rather have my kid reading about that other stuff.

Yeah, it's easier to explain that stuff, then to explain why the teacher is psychotic.

 

[mommaU4]

Yeah, it's easier to explain that stuff, then to explain why the teacher is psychotic.

 

[Stacerita]

Yeah, it's easier to explain that stuff, then to explain why the teacher is psychotic.

And you are psychotic. At least.

 

[wendylady36]

And you are psychotic. At least.

At the very least.

 

[trodrigue]

I wouldn't want DD reading that at her age.

It doesn't seem age appropriate to me. I would think that they would chose a different tool for teaching the subject to younger children. I've heard and seen some pretty unbelievable things when I worked for the City of Roseville's Park and Rec department. I worked as a teacher in their before and after school program for K-6. It's amazing the things these kids know! It never ceased to shock me!

Okay I just looked this book up on Barnes and Noble and it looks like it's geared towards teenagers and young adults. Definitely seems a bit too mature (to say the least) for a 12 year old. I don't think I'd feel comfortable with my kids reading those things at that age. Can you talk to the teacher and/or school district?

steph

If you're nuts, I'm nuts! 12 years old, and this is what he is reading!? What happened to "Where the Red Fern Grows"? I don't think 12 should be considered young adult. I would not want any of the 12 year olds I know to read something like that!

Hi Tracy,

Is your son in 7th grade? Just curious because my oldest is in 6th and I am sooo not ready for these topics yet. I googled this book and it seems it has been used in 9-12th grade curriculum. I did find the following comment on a web page about censorship in schools:

Stuck in Neutral Under Review

Terry Trueman's Stuck in Neutral, an in-depth look at a 14-year-old boy's struggle with cerebral palsy, has been removed from the eighth grade classrooms of a middle school in Evansville, Wisconsin. Parents objected to the book's use of foul language and candid exploration of the sexual thoughts of the main character. Teacher Kim Stieber-White defends her choice of the book, saying it provides her students with a unique, intimate perspective for her classroom discussion of disabilities. The school board is reviewing complaints about the book.

Well, you are doing good!

Ruben went out and ended up bringing home Chinese food for all of us, and a rose for me. Not an enchilada but I'll take it!! LOL



We use that word too.



Well, I can see I'm in the minority here, but honestly Tracey, like it or not, I bet you he is hearing way worse then that in school. It's just the way it is.

None of those words are off limits for my son Adam. He's 13, almost 14, but we've been having open, frank conversations since he was 11. If he asks, I answer.
Those words, and phrases are out there, and I'd rather explain to my DS what they mean and whether or not they are appropriate, then have them explained by his friends. And who knows what they are telling him. This way I know what he's learning.

Anyway, good luck, but I'd bet anything, he's already hearing stuff like that around school.

See that's what I mean. As parents we may not be ready for this, or want to deal with it, but trust me, kids are hearing things younger and younger. It's scary. But it's out there. And as a parent I'd rather be the one to discuss these things with my kids ahead of time so when they do come across it in a book or a conversation with their friends, they already have true and accurate information and definitions from me. If that makes sense.....

Thanks all for your feedback. I am not trying to hide anything from my son, but I meet him where he is at, and he is not there yet. I would not choose for the school to be providing that book at his grade level. There actually was no notice that they were reading that book. The teacher sent it home so I could help him in discussing the "theme" that he had derived from the book and identifying evidence in the text to support his theme. It is a rather well told story, and very expressive, but I would think more for age 14 to 15.

I am actually fortunate in some ways because my son is hard of hearing, so he doesn't actually "hear" all that the other kids hear. You just have to look for the silver lining where you can! He did tell me that he thought he had a crush an a girl that plays trumpet in band with him. He really likes to make her laugh when plays his trumpet by looking like a peanut. He asked to buy her a pair of funny xmas sock for a gift. His first ever!


Anyhow, I have sent his teacher a note, and I also asked for a list of future books that they will be using, because in the future, I may choose to have him opt out of some of the books. I would not have let him read this one for sure.