Getting Fired for Disboard Surfing at Work?

Agreeing that both are bad, what is the lesser evil of the two:

1. Going on dis multiple times a day. Closing out, opening again at another time and repeating throughout the day
or
2. Going onto dis and minimizing the screen and just going on it when you want and then minimizing so you log into it once?

I'm on dis and cruisecritic at work and although we are extremely busy I always find time to check things out but this means going on multiple times a day.

Thanks to all!

BTW, I saw this post at work and wanted to ask the question but decided I should wait until I got home LOL
Thanks.
 
Question so since you monitor it, are your employees not allowed to do any internet while at work? How do you handle an occasional email?

I guess I just find it unreasonable that employers would get so upset over an email here or there. Or even a few minutes browsing news. Sometimes you just need a break, be it smoking, or surfing. I dont mean constant, but sometimes there are things you have to do even while at work. How do you handle that? Do you bring everybody in that uses the internet and "warn" them? Do you look the other way unless its a problem?

Im not trying to be snooty but seriously just asking.

I don't think you're being snooty at all :thumbsup2.

Our problems did not involve employees using the internet to send an occasional email or just do a bit of surfing......our definition of "wasting time online" is not fulfilling their job responsibilities, or completing them in a timely manner, because of excessive personal emailing, surfing, shopping, social networking, etc. on company time. We didn't start monitoring computer usage until we needed proof of the amount of time some employees spent online and what sites they visited.

We don't have a problem with people being online during their break or lunch time, or even as needed for an urgent situation. The monitoring programs are still running, but we only check them occasionally or as needed if we suspect a problem. We have, however, chosen to block access to social networking sites.

You are saying that all of your employees are valuable to you, but you have no problem firing them for something like this. Sorry, but I question your use of the word "valuable". :lmao:

And, from a man who has managed thousands of employees over my career, I can assure you that everyone is not "replaceable". Perhaps you should consider why you feel this way. :confused3

Something to mull over this holiday season. :santa:

And I question what your meaning of "firing them for something like this" is....Was this a good, hardworking, valuable employee who got fired simply because she violated internet policy by having the DIS running in the background on her comp as she worked, glancing at it during occasional lulls; OR was this an employee who was "wasting time online" and not performing her duties to her employer's satisfaction? Could be either; I assumed the latter.

We will just have to agree to disagree about "not everyone is replaceable." We've never had a problem finding replacements for any employees who have left our business. I don't think I need to consider or mull over why I feel this way.....:confused3

Happy holidays to you!

I feel the same way as my dad owns a rather good sized day care center, and as my dad's personal assistant/associate/IT I'm the one responsible for monitoring who is doing what on the internet. We have a staff of 25 and each person has a username and a password associated with them so that we are able to pin point exactly what sites and when they were on the internet (we have a total of 4 computers, all in the office, none in the classrooms). And written in bold printing on signs in the office and employee handbook clearly states that the internet is only to be used as a tool at work.

They are not allowed on any social networking sites, no entertainment sites, and they can not check personal e-mail either (if there is an emergency situation family members must call the office). If they want to check the latest news they are allowed on CNN, the local news station sites, msnbc, or the local paper. I do monitor usage, and on the first offense of not using the internet for work only they get written up and locked out of their account that allows them to use a work computer, and if it continues they will not work for us anymore. And they must turn in all wireless communication devices into the office at the beginning of their work day or leave them in their cars.

If they wish to check their e-mail or facebook pages during their lunch hour they must go home to do so. They will not use our computers for these purposes.

Good for you! Sounds like you and your father are running a tight ship there. Your employees' first responsibility is for the safety and well-being of many children. You can't afford to have an "unfortunate incident" happen because some employee was inattentive while they surfed, texted, tweeted, face-booked, etc. You know your employees' strengths....and weaknesses.....do what's right for everybody. :thumbsup2
 
I agree. If using the internet while working is against company policy, then they are well within their rights to fire her.

Exactly. Just like using the company phone for personal business, or using a company car to take your kids to school. If it is against company policy, they can fire you.

In my industry....TV news...we've gone from in 1994, 1 terminal with internet access, where you had to have a supervisor log you in, and justify why you were on the internet...........to today where I am REQUIRED to be on Twitter, Facebook, and other websites the entire time I am at work. We're on so many websites at once, they had to upgrade us to computers with 2 monitors....and we could use 3 or 4 monitors.
Many police and fire departments now do their media updates on Twitter, and the local police have asked us no longer to call them, but text message us if we have questions.
 
It's also NO different than employees taking multiple smoking breaks!

Well, I disagree. Nicotine stimulates the brain and can be argued that it helps one think. Also, many people meet with co workers while smoking and discuss work related things. Not very similar to browsing trip reports or looking at disney food pictures.
 

on the flip side surfing the web does not contribute to a multitude of respiratory ailments and CA thereby raising health insurance rates and time loss..........
 
Well, I disagree. Nicotine stimulates the brain and can be argued that it helps one think. Also, many people meet with co workers while smoking and discuss work related things. Not very similar to browsing trip reports or looking at disney food pictures.
Yeah, I wasn't going to take up that particular piece of bait because I knew it would turn the thread into another anti-smoking thread. However, you have an excellent point about smoking breaks being different from web-surfing.

I know that whenever I'm outside with the other smokers, 99% of the time we're talking about work. Hell, sometimes our non-smoking boss joins us out there because we get some really good ideas when we're standing around trying to find solutions. In retrospect, we could just as easily be standing in each other's office trouble-shooting and brainstorming.

Quite different from the co-worker who spends at least 4 hours a day updating her wedding website, researching invitations or party favor ideas and discussing other wedding-related issues with her friends and family on Facebook or Google chat.
 
Yeah, I wasn't going to take up that particular piece of bait because I knew it would turn the thread into another anti-smoking thread. However, you have an excellent point about smoking breaks being different from web-surfing.
on the flip side surfing the web does not contribute to a multitude of respiratory ailments and CA thereby raising health insurance rates and time loss..........
I really and truly can't wait for research to prove that cell phone usage contributes to cancer and other ailments such as brain tumors. Do you know they've found a link between skin cancer and electronic devices that are carried around in pockets? :rotfl: It turns out that the devices aren't shielded properly and were tested by way of how they're worn in buckle holsters rather than how people ACTUALLY store them on their person.
 
At our company we allow several (3) paid 10m/5m/10m minute breaks to smoke/personal time, use the internet for personal use or making personal calls. The rest of the time is spent working. Everything is in the handbook along with all other rules. It is unfortunate this person lost her job but a rule is a rule.
 
I feel the same way as my dad owns a rather good sized day care center, and as my dad's personal assistant/associate/IT I'm the one responsible for monitoring who is doing what on the internet. We have a staff of 25 and each person has a username and a password associated with them so that we are able to pin point exactly what sites and when they were on the internet (we have a total of 4 computers, all in the office, none in the classrooms). And written in bold printing on signs in the office and employee handbook clearly states that the internet is only to be used as a tool at work.

They are not allowed on any social networking sites, no entertainment sites, and they can not check personal e-mail either (if there is an emergency situation family members must call the office). If they want to check the latest news they are allowed on CNN, the local news station sites, msnbc, or the local paper. I do monitor usage, and on the first offense of not using the internet for work only they get written up and locked out of their account that allows them to use a work computer, and if it continues they will not work for us anymore. And they must turn in all wireless communication devices into the office at the beginning of their work day or leave them in their cars.

If they wish to check their e-mail or facebook pages during their lunch hour they must go home to do so. They will not use our computers for these purposes.

You know, child care is a very different type of business. Your center is only as good as your staff and your staff is only as good as the way they are treated. Regardless of your policies, the ways in which you are presenting them would make me think twice about working for you~"they will not use them . . ."

Also, I hope that if you are making them turn in their cell phones, you make darn sure you are NEVER without phone service and some way of every employee being able to call out in an emergency. One of the points on the license check in this state is that cell phones are available to the staff. In case of fire you have to get the kids out quickly. Once out you have to have some way to call parents. Also on the playground there needs to be some way to call emergency personel if necessary.
 
I have to admit I'm guilty of it. When things are slow at work or at lunchtime, I sometimes surf. My company blocks alot of sites - facebook, any mail programs (like AOL, Hotmail, etc), any blogs, I'm surprised they have not blocked forums. I work alot of long hours, sometimes incl travel, so they get the time back other times (I'm exempt, so no overtime).
 
Well, I disagree. Nicotine stimulates the brain and can be argued that it helps one think. Also, many people meet with co workers while smoking and discuss work related things. Not very similar to browsing trip reports or looking at disney food pictures.

At my work, when people take multiple smoking breaks, they're away from the phone, which leaves me the only one in the office!
 
I know someone who unplugs their computer from their company network, connects their smart phone to the computer, and accesses the internet this way to access non-business related sites.

No, it's not me...and I'm not condoning it...but this is beginning to happen.

The internet is a great business tool...remember the days of having to call a vendor to have them mail you a copy of a manual...now, just go to their site, and their it is. A great tool for anyone having to do research, locate/order materials...etc.

Occasional dis use is just keeping the internet/computer skills up-to-date.

We have smokers who seriously abuse the smoking policy...I know some who it seems spend the whole day going/coming from the smoke shack. Need to just move their desk out there I guess.
 
Smokers have no right to additional breaks just because they smoke.

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If you own a company and that's your rule, fine but if you don't oh well, that's just your opinion.
 
Honsetly in this day and age I am suprised more people are not let go for goofing off while at work. I know people who work 40 plus and spent more time online than when I was a SAHM.
 
Honsetly in this day and age I am suprised more people are not let go for goofing off while at work. I know people who work 40 plus and spent more time online than when I was a SAHM.
 

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