Germs Transferred From Person To Person???????

[belle&sebastiansmom]

This morning my ds2 clamped him mouth and drew blood on the finger of his speech therapist while she was doing oral motor work in his mouth. She was wearing a rubber glove.

What I read online was mostly concerning transmissions of germs from biter to person bitten.

What do I need to be concerned about as far as my son's health is concerned and the transmission of anything from the therapist to my boy?

He got her pretty good, enough that she left blood drops in my sink, which I bleached out. Gross!

 

[Mermaid02]

Call your pediatrician.... I'm sure the speech therapist is calling her doctor too.

 

[belle&sebastiansmom]

Call your pediatrician.... I'm sure the speech therapist is calling her doctor too.

I'm sitting on the phone, redialing and redialing. Thought I'd see what the disers say!

There has to be a lot of disers out there with the types of jobs where being bitten is an acceptable risk if not the norm.

It all happened so fast, and I was actually a little shocked. Should I call her and ask if it bled through the glove? If she has any diseases I should know about? God, I'd hope she wasn't putting her fingers in kid's mouths if she knowingly had anything.

Update: The pediatric dentist said that their protocol is that both parties go together with 24 hours for blood tests.

 

[brittsmum1998]

Subscribing because I want to see what kind of responses you get.

 

[OceanAnnie]

I'm sitting on the phone, redialing and redialing. Thought I'd see what the disers say!

There has to be a lot of disers out there with the types of jobs where being bitten is an acceptable risk if not the norm.

It all happened so fast, and I was actually a little shocked. Should I call her and ask if it bled through the glove? If she has any diseases I should know about? God, I'd hope she wasn't putting her fingers in kid's mouths if she knowingly had anything.

Update: The pediatric dentist said that their protocol is that both parties go together with 24 hours for blood tests.

That's interesting! Makes sense, but I didn't know that.

OP, I hope this thread doesn't get heated.

 

[belle&sebastiansmom]

So, I used my rubber gloves and dug the rubber glove that she used out of the trash. There was blood on the inside of the gloves. After unfolding it I couldn't tell if there were any breaks or holes in it, so I filled it up with water and squeezed the fingers like utters. No water came out. That makes me feel so much better, knowing the glove barrier was probably not broken.

 

[daisyx3]

Should she be worried? She's trying to help your son and he bites her? What did you tell him so he won't bite people?
Daisyx3

 

[HM]

This is really interesting. I don't think it would have even occured to me to worry about my son, if the something similar had happened to us.

Sounds like things will be OK for both your son and her if the glove can hold water.

 

[leighe]

You have got to be kidding me...

 

[ZeitgeistDuck]

Wow, that poor therapist. Hopefully she won't have to come back and deal with the snapping toddler again.

Little kids bite, no big deal. Hopefully if our child bit someone I'd have the grace to be concerned with the bitee, rather than sniff about her having dared to leave blood in the sink and get obsessed with some very unlikely worries about her transferring infection.

Get him tested... but hopefully on the phone when you ask the therapist about her medical condition you'll apologize for the fact that your little precious bit her in the first place.

 

[belle&sebastiansmom]

Should she be worried? She's trying to help your son and he bites her? What did you tell him so he won't bite people?
Daisyx3

Oral Motor Work. Her fingers are in his mouth because his jaw, tongue, teeth muscles do not work properly. I never said he bit her. She never said he bit her. She did say it wasn't his fault. She never flinched, I didn't even know there was a problem until she was at the sink and asked for a band aid.

In reference to a comment I made concerning other occupations where biting is typical, I used the word biting, yes, but thinking more about dentists, or even teachers or nursery workers who may get bitten and what protocol they use when blood may or may not be transferred. I'm thinking in this instance, based on what she was doing in his mouth, his baby teeth scraped her, and this is after speaking to the therapist again.

To another poster's comment, why wouldn't I think of my son's health in a situation like this? Seems crazy for me not to. It's not like there is no concern or care for the therapist. My question is simple and directed towards instances of transmission from the bitten to the biter, scraper to scrapee, however you want to put it.. There is a lot of information available for the other way around. Hopefully someone will be respectfully be able to answer my question.

Guess I'm going to have to defend myself from the nice folks on the Dis.

 

[Jennasis]

I am not sure what the difference is between "biting" and clamping ones teeth down.

 

[my3sonsagn]

Maybe I just assume differently about people, but I kind of guessed that these are the questions OP has AFTER the therapist has been apologized to and has already left. The therapist, as an adult, can (and probably prefers to) make her own decisions about follow-up care. If the OP has never had to deal with her child biting like that in the past, then it is natural that she wonders if diseases can be passed BOTH ways in during a bite. As for the blood in the sink? Some people are icked out by blood; anyone's blood.

 

[SaraJayne]

I'd be more concerned about the person my child bit.

 

[belle&sebastiansmom]

Maybe I just assume differently about people, but I kind of guessed that these are the questions OP has AFTER the therapist has been apologized to and has already left. The therapist, as an adult, can (and probably prefers to) make her own decisions about follow-up care. If the OP has never had to deal with her child biting like that in the past, then it is natural that she wonders if diseases can be passed BOTH ways in during a bite. As for the blood in the sink? Some people are icked out by blood; anyone's blood.

Yes! Thank you. Why couldn't I have just posted this?

 

[bookgirl]

This morning my ds2 clamped him mouth and drew blood on the finger of his speech therapist while she was doing oral motor work in his mouth. She was wearing a rubber glove.

What I read online was mostly concerning transmissions of germs from biter to person bitten.

What do I need to be concerned about as far as my son's health is concerned and the transmission of anything from the therapist to my boy?

He got her pretty good, enough that she left blood drops in my sink, which I bleached out. Gross!

You actually have very little to worry about. Just like you read online, your therapist has more to worry about then your kid. That's assuming neither your therapist or kid has any of the major problems (Hep, HIV, rabies, menigitis, etc). However his mouth is literally covered in bacteria that will cause infection to the person bitten.

I think as long as you rinsed his mouth (did she pull it out before it began to bleed or did it take a while to get her finger back from him?) and she had washed her hands, he should be fine.

 

[ryanshana]

Update: The pediatric dentist said that their protocol is that both parties go together with 24 hours for blood tests.

Oral Motor Work. Her fingers are in his mouth because his jaw, tongue, teeth muscles do not work properly. I never said he bit her. She never said he bit her. She did say it wasn't his fault. She never flinched, I didn't even know there was a problem until she was at the sink and asked for a band aid.

In reference to a comment I made concerning other occupations where biting is typical, I used the word biting, yes, but thinking more about dentists, or even teachers or nursery workers who may get bitten and what protocol they use when blood may or may not be transferred. I'm thinking in this instance, based on what she was doing in his mouth, his baby teeth scraped her, and this is after speaking to the therapist again.

To another poster's comment, why wouldn't I think of my son's health in a situation like this? Seems crazy for me not to. It's not like there is no concern or care for the therapist. My question is simple and directed towards instances of transmission from the bitten to the biter, scraper to scrapee, however you want to put it.. There is a lot of information available for the other way around. Hopefully someone will be respectfully be able to answer my question.

Guess I'm going to have to defend myself from the nice folks on the Dis.

yes you should be concerned for your son. However, you sound like you could care less about the therapist that your son bite, "scraped", whatever, you should also be concerned about her well being as well....

I believe u got your answer from your peds. get him tested. There really is no way to know what could be transmitted....although I highly doubt it anything was transferred especially since the glove wasn't broken

 

[Darsa]

It is for things just like this that everyone (including myself as office manager) was required to be up to date on all immunizations at the preschool for autistic children that I used to work for. It was my job to be the police and come down on anyone who's even a day late. Tetanus, yeesh, I don't know HOW many times I had to pull teachers in and tell 'em they needed their shot or they couldn't work (and wouldn't be paid).

I'm sure the therapist would have been safe to work with your child; I can't imagine a company sending someone to work with a kid that wasn't protected and safe, for liability reasons if nothing else.

 

[HM]

My main point in my post was, that I would not have thought to be worried about infections, at all. That's why I thought this was an interesting thread. My point was not whether you should have been worried (or not). I was not passing any opinions about how you were handling the situation. Just thinking about my own reactions.

 

[robinb]

Since the glove appeared to do it's job with the chomp/bite I would just let it go. There is no reason to insist that the therapist be tested. I hope that the therapist is OK!