Gender and Bathrooms

Tiresius

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I want to sincerely apologize for starting what I suspect is a thread that concerns a possibly "hot" topic of companion bathrooms, especially considering that this is my first visit to this board. However, I am looking for some real honest feedback before my next WDW trip. I also want to apologize since this is a long description. Hopefully some people will be willing to read through my post and give me some opinions.

First, let me say that I am physically capable of using any normal bathroom, so my concerns relate to a very different problem. I was born biologically female, but have lived the last 5 years of my life with a very different gender presentation. I dress as a man, have a masculine name, and am known as "he" to my friends and family. Officially, I have been diagnosed with Gender Identity Disorder and am legally qualified to use either men's or women's bathrooms, as well as request accomadation through the ADA.

Although legally it is acceptable for me to use both men's and women's bathrooms, practically, that isn't the case. I appear at first glance to be a 20 year old guy, but am not physically male. That presents the first issue, since I cannot use many of the facilities in the men's room. More importantly, my voice is undeniably female. It is a very rare instance that you don't have to speak in a bathroom, if only to say "Excuse me" at some point. When I speak, I am no longer percieved as male, and have been harrassed, threatened, and physically thrown out of men's bathrooms. On the other hand, since I appear to be male, I face similar issues when using women's bathrooms. Although it is easier for me to "prove" that I do belong in that bathroom, I face stares, giggles, questions from children ("Mommy there is a boy in the girls bathroom"), and more importantly, security guards. I have been thrown out of women's bathrooms by security guards as well.

Therefore, I am emotionally and mentally uncomfortable in nearly every public bathroom. Beyond my own discomfort, I often face harassment and threats of violence (none at WDW so far, but you never know) to the point that I sometimes fear for my safety when using public restrooms (again, I never have feared at WDW, but it is still extremely uncomfortable).

My question comes to this board concerning the companion bathrooms in WDW. I have read many people's complaints that people use them as "Family Bathrooms" or a way to avoid a line, both of which I see as completely valid concerns. When I have used these bathrooms in the past, I have always felt extremely guilty about it. I appear to be a perfectly healthy individual with absolutely no need to be using a companion bathroom, and in many ways I do not need extra space or a single stall room for privacy. I feel guilty because I am using what for some may be the only bathroom they can use, while for me I physically could be using another bathroom. I am super fast, in the bathroom for less than 2 minutes at any time, and would never be impatient with anyone else using the bathroom. But I don't know if that is enough? Although I do have very valid emotional, mental, and physical safety reasons for not using "normal" bathrooms, I don't want to use a bathroom that is also not meant for me... At the same time, I realize that non-gender-ed bathrooms don't exist in any other form at WDW, so my choices are extremely limited.

Speaking to those of you most likely to have experiences with and opinions on these bathrooms - Does anyone have an opinion on this? If you were to see me in the parks using a companion bathroom, would you be angry (and its ok with me if you are)? Are my reason's enough to assuage my quilt? Is it ok for me to use a companion bathroom?
 
I can't imagine your anguish at this uncomfortable situation. :hug:

I am 1000000% confident that you should use those companion restrooms. I can't think of a better, more comfortable solution. I can't use the words that I would utter if someone were to give you an issue with using the companion restroom.

And honestly, don't worry about someone else's anger or frustration. You aren't going in there to dawdle (the biggest issue), you go in, do your thing, and get out. Walk out with your head high and a smile on your face. If someone is waiting for the bathroom after you, hold the door open and tell them to have a great day! :goodvibes
 
Although I do have very valid emotional, mental, and physical safety reasons for not using "normal" bathrooms, I don't want to use a bathroom that is also not meant for me... At the same time, I realize that non-gender-ed bathrooms don't exist in any other form at WDW, so my choices are extremely limited.

Speaking to those of you most likely to have experiences with and opinions on these bathrooms - Does anyone have an opinion on this? If you were to see me in the parks using a companion bathroom, would you be angry (and its ok with me if you are)? Are my reason's enough to assuage my quilt? Is it ok for me to use a companion bathroom?
I agree with Forevryoung.
You would not make me angry, even if I did not know your 'story'. Seeing you come out, I would not know if you had some invisible need to use that restroom (like a condition that made it important for you to have a sink in the 'stall' with you).

What I always post when Companion Restrooms come up is a plea for people to consider their options and whether using the Companion Restroom is a choice for them or a necessity.
It sounds like you have considered your options very carefully and using the Companion Restroom is the option that is the most comfortable for you and also for the other people who would be using the mens or ladies rooms.

There are other people who use that Companion Restroom for similar 'comfort' reasons to you. An older male child or adult with autism, Down syndrome, etc. may be capable of using the regular stall, but may not be 'welcome' in the Ladies room with their mom. They may not be able to go into the men's room alone because of possibility of harassment and may not have a member of their party to go into the men's room with. The Companion Restroom may be their best option for the same reasons that it's the best option for you.

So, don't feel guilty. You are doing what best meets your needs and you are also being considerate of the needs of others.:grouphug:
 
Geesh, that must be a weird and harsh situation to get into over and over. (after all, don't we all have to use the bathroom when being out in public for a longer time?)

Coming from somebody who needs those companion restrooms; use them!! No need to upset everybody and even run the realistic risk of geeting abused (unbelievable). Don't worry! After all, you've explained allready that you look male, but sound female. If you run into anybody waiting for that restroom while you come out, just say something like "hello", or "have a nice day". Any reasonable person will put the pieces together and understand that using either gender specific restrooms (and if you ask me, there's no question about it, you belong in the males restroom. You're male, simple.) could be a problem for you.

The others? People will allways find something to nag about. They'll even sigh and complain if I wouldn't come out of that restroom within 2 minutes, never mind me needing more time for a very visable disability.

Really; don't worry too much. There will be complainers. So? You're intitled, period. It's not like you're using them to avoid waiting your turn in line but for very valid reasons. Don't feel the need to excuse yourself and explain too much. While I can understand you're weariness because of things that have happened, also know it's ok not to want to sooth everybodies mind. Some people are just 'blind' or plain rude. Tough for them, not your responsibility to enlighten them.


*can't get over the fact the male restroom is so unsave and uncomfortable. Geesh!*
 

As the others have said, the companion restrooms are there for those who need them, for whatever reason. You've thought about this carefully and feel you need to use them, so go ahead and use them.

Sadly, you may meet one or two grumpy people, but just try to ignore them, a full bladder can make anyone irritable ;). If anyone does give you a hard time (I hope it doesn't happen, but unfortunately they can't stop jerks from going to Disney), tell them that you have a valid reason for using it, but would rather not go into it with a complete stranger in a crowded theme park. Seems reasonable to me!

Just a quick point (though you may know this already) the companion restrooms are not marked on the regular maps, but are in the Guidebooks for Guests with Disabilities.

Go along, have a great time and ignore any idiots you may meet! :thumbsup2
 
As a Mom who must use the Companion restrooms when I travel with my adult son with Down Syndrome......I have no problem at all with you using it.

Your issue may not be common, but certainly for your comfort and possibly safety it is the best option. There is abuse of these restrooms but your situation qualifies your use as valid.
 
I agree with the others, you hve a valid reason for using the companion restrooms.

I have a friend with Crohns disease who had an ileostomy. To anyone she looks like a healthy, vibrant woman. While she could use the regular regular ladies room, for a variety of reasons it's more practical for her to use a companion restroom (or the handicapped restroom with the sink in the stall).

It's really nobody's business why someone might need the extra room, privacy, or features of a companion restroom. I hope you have a wonderful trip!
 
I agree with previous posters. Use the companion restrooms, you have a valid reason. Anyone else should remember that not all needs are visible. . . if they choose not to do that, don't worry about them. You're at WDW having fun and you deserve to make your trip fun and comfortable!

Erica:flower3:
 
I have one of my best friends, who I have known for over 40 years, who had the similar but opposite problem. She did have surgery over ten years ago so no longer has that problem.

I woud agree with what others have said; if you feel that you cannot comfortably use the public restrooms you would fit into the category where you have a real need to use the companion rooms.
 
I think for your comfort and that of others who do not understand your situation that the companion bathroom is the best solution for you. You certainly have reason to use it. It is really no one's business why you are using the companion restroom. Use it and ignore the comments of the ignorant.
 
My son is disabled and we have to use that bathroom too. I never question why someone else is using it...being you can never KNOW what the reason is. I say use it and dont worry about the looks or glares...it is better than using the others and being threatened or verbaly abused. I am soory you have to go through stuff like that and I will pray for you to have strenth and maybe to not hear what they are saying. people can be so mean and judgemental of others...and yet they do not know the whole story behind them. My son is autistic so I have met other familys with children who have autism also. My son also has physical dis. too...so I never run into this problem...but when their child has a melt down...people say mean things about the children and the parents and my heart hurts so bad for them. People judge by what they see...sad but true. I hope you have a blessed day and dont worry about what others think or say...do what is the safest for you! ;)
 
Wow! Thank you to all of you for your amazing support. Although I deal with bathroom concerns daily, I guess I have never heard positive comments as opposed to complaints about which bathroom I use. You all are an amazing group of people and have no idea how great it feels for ANYONE, let alone multiple people, to back my decisions. Thank you!

And, as I'm sure is not a surprise to some, I do think that WDW is one of the better places in terms of finding appropriate bathrooms. Even if there aren't as many, at least there are some single-stall, gender-irrelevant bathrooms. So, even were I not to use them, I am still glad that they exist. In many places, even single-stall, accessible bathrooms are gendered. While it may increase the number of bathrooms for some, having a single locking door on a mens or womens room still doesn't solve my dilemna. Its safer, but not ideal. Just a small word of thanks to Disney for keeping an option open.

Thank you all again for your responses. I wish more people had that attitude.
 
Well I say simply...You use them!!!!
Even in WDW people will give you an attitude, just smile and hold the door.

I appreciate how thoughtful you are, that is very kind.

To lighten the mood.....I will share something with you. When DH & I were on the start of our honeymoon we were in the companion restroom together (enough said). When we opened the door there was a much older couple waiting for the companion restroom, I was so embarrassed and felt guilty. The couple smiled at us and said "oh to be young again, keep it up kids".

You have every right to use the companion room and I am truly sorry you have felt in danger. Have the trip of a lifetime!:cool1:
 
You have a valid reason.

What if you were a normal person with perfect health and used the companion bathroom alone and not for an emergency? It aint nobody's business and if they do not like it then they should go to a CM and complain. hrmpph.

People should not have to justify why they need a special service. Either I am qualified to use that special service or I am a foreigner who does not understand the rules, am a selfish dolt, too lazy or greedy for example.

As for using a public restroom some people are uncomfortable if they think the person in the next stall is of the other gender. Not all men want a woman tinkling in the men's room and most women would be very upset to find a man in the next stall. It does not matter if in other countries both genders use open areas as bathrooms or that the other gendered person is not invading the person's private space. It just is human nature.

Enjoy life and have fun in the parks.
hugs
Laurie
 
Unfortunately, Tiresius, their are people in the world who seem to go looking for a fight. These same people will have a go at the parents of autistic kids who are having a meltdown, someone using a walking stick for getting up the stairs too slowly, or a deaf person for going out in public without a signing translator. There are even people who've given me a dirty look when they have stopped straight in front of my on a down hill slope, and my wheels have squealed as I try to avoid hitting them. As I said earlier, you get jerks everywhere! :sad2:

But then again, it's not your problem. I know it can be extremely hard to let looks and comments roll off your back, but just remember: they're choosing to ruin their own trip by worrying about what others are doing, but that doesn't mean they have to ruin yours too. Their snap judgments will probably still be making them grumpy, while you're having a whale of a time riding Pirates of the Caribbean for the 15th time!

Have a magical trip, and ignore any idiots who try to stop you from having fun! :hug:
 














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