Gay-friendly Thread!

[Hazy]

Viki-

That's too bad we will miss each other!! I was hoping to hang out with someone at 8 Tracks!!
Have a good time!!

Hazy

 

[Viki]

Viki-

That's too bad we will miss each other!! I was hoping to hang out with someone at 8 Tracks!!
Have a good time!!

Hazy

And we WILL be at 8 Tracks on Thursday, Dec. 8th if we can pull ourselves away from the Adventurers Club and before our visit over to Mannequins. Anyone else, specifically you Orlando residents, going to be around that night?

 

[Mama Twinkles]

Hi, everybody. Glad to find this thread. I sometimes wonder what would happen if a legally married couple from Massachusetts tried to do a vow renewal ceremony through Fairy Tale Weddings at WDW. If they allowed it, it would be an important precedent and establish a policy of inclusiveness. If they refused it, the refusal could be grounds for a lawsuit that could help our cause. Not that I relish the thought of lawsuits.

 

[Viki]

Hi, everybody. Glad to find this thread. I sometimes wonder what would happen if a legally married couple from Massachusetts tried to do a vow renewal ceremony through Fairy Tale Weddings at WDW. If they allowed it, it would be an important precedent and establish a policy of inclusiveness. If they refused it, the refusal could be grounds for a lawsuit that could help our cause. Not that I relish the thought of lawsuits.

Hey, Mama, I think WDW's policy is that the couple has to have a valid FLORIDA marriage license. But, of course, you're right. Even then, it could be challenged.

 

[Mama Twinkles]

Hey, Mama, I think WDW's policy is that the couple has to have a valid FLORIDA marriage license.

You must be right about weddings, but I thought couples married anywhere could have a ceremony to renew their vows. But maybe I'm wrong. If I'm right, they would have to decide whether permitting a G or L couple to renew vows meant "recognizing" another state's gay marriage, or whether it would just mean acknowledging that they are married back home. I sniff a Lambda Legal lawsuit in the making because you can bet they don't check whether out-of-state straight couples fulfill FL's marriage requirements before permitting vow renewals, so they could be violating equal protection to deny such a ceremony to our kind.

Sorry to be a downer tonight. I am just so sick of unfair discrimination, but won't highjack this nice thread by pursuing this topic.

 

[Viki]

You must be right about weddings, but I thought couples married anywhere could have a ceremony to renew their vows. But maybe I'm wrong. If I'm right, they would have to decide whether permitting a G or L couple to renew vows meant "recognizing" another state's gay marriage, or whether it would just mean acknowledging that they are married back home. I sniff a Lambda Legal lawsuit in the making because you can bet they don't check whether out-of-state straight couples fulfill FL's marriage requirements before permitting vow renewals, so they could be violating equal protection to deny such a ceremony to our kind.

Sorry to be a downer tonight. I am just so sick of unfair discrimination, but won't highjack this nice thread by pursuing this topic.

Oh, no, please pursue it! I think I raised it earlier, a few pages back. I think it is a very real issue that Disney should address. I know Gwen and I would renew our vows next year in a minutes if they would let us. And if that were to happen we'd have quite a little group of family and friends from PA and FLA who would join us. Ultimately, Disney is losing business, but they must have it figured otherwise.

 

[Mama Twinkles]

Oh, no, please pursue it! I think I raised it earlier, a few pages back. I think it is a very real issue that Disney should address. I know Gwen and I would renew our vows next year in a minutes if they would let us. And if that were to happen we'd have quite a little group of family and friends from PA and FLA who would join us. Ultimately, Disney is losing business, but they must have it figured otherwise.

Great point, Viki. Our money is just as green as anyone else's, and we take it where we're welcome. So sorry you and Gwen can't just pop down there and be assured of the same joys as so many other couples, as if anyone would be hurt by your declaring your commitment. Long live your love. Stay proud.

 

[SparklieSunShine]

It would be so nice to see a same-sex couple doing a vow renewal or a wedding at Disney. I would love to see that. I tend to find that gay weddings are more fun and happy because those who are enjoying it have had to overcome some sort of adversity.

I would say though if I saw one going on I might try and blend with the other party members so that I could be in one the fun to. lol

I don't think it is something that we will never see. I just think it will take some work and a little time.

There will be people who will make a fuss, but like other things I feel that once they see that the world isn't ending and people do it more frequently they will be fine. (Well sometimes not fine, but they can get over it.)

I don't see why they would need any special documents for a vow-renewal. It's more of a love and commitment than a legal thing. Is there anyway this can be checked out with someone?

 

[Viki]

Hi, everybody. Glad to find this thread. I sometimes wonder what would happen if a legally married couple from Massachusetts tried to do a vow renewal ceremony through Fairy Tale Weddings at WDW. If they allowed it, it would be an important precedent and establish a policy of inclusiveness. If they refused it, the refusal could be grounds for a lawsuit that could help our cause. Not that I relish the thought of lawsuits.

I went to the site and read a bit and, unfortunately, Gwen and I couldn't challenge whatever policy Disney has on vow renewal ceremonies because we do not have a valid marriage certificate, living as we do in PA.

So, yes, Mama, that's a great question. Not about marriages, per se, I think disney has been very clear about that (needs to to be valid in Fla), but renewal ceremonies - if you're legally married and you're there from Canada or MA or some other country what's their policy? Does anyone know?

 

[joanjett1976]

Is that a mass Disney vow renewal plot is smell?

 

[SparklieSunShine]

Is that a mass Disney vow renewal plot is smell?

How awesome would that be? So fun! lol. That would be beautiful to watch.

 

[SparklieSunShine]

To much money to soon to go on that 11-day cruise next year. Oh well. We were able to get a room on the one in December of that year which is about the same price, but it will be our 6th anniversary and we will be able to add on the Romantic Escape package. Yay! Things worked out. Hopefully there will be at least one other gay couple on the cruise.

While I am on the subject...What exactly do they do for the "romantic turn-down service"? My So was wondering and I really couldn't tell her specifically.

 

[Viki]

Is that a mass Disney vow renewal plot is smell?

I like the way you think!

And I really do want to know what disney might do or has done with this question. If two lesbian or gay folk are married per the laws of their state or country it seems to be it would awfully difficult for them not to host the renewal affair. Maybe I should bite the bullet and call the vow renewal folk and ask. My only problem with that is, like I said, Gwen and I aren't legally married, so we can't be the couple that pushes on this technicality.

(What's really ironic about all of this is that I am an ordained Lutheran minister and I officiate at all sorts of weddings for heterosexuals and lesbian and gay folk all the time all over the place. But I, myself, can't get married!)

 

[joanjett1976]

I like the way you think!


(What's really ironic about all of this is that I am an ordained Lutheran minister and I officiate at all sorts of weddings for heterosexuals and lesbian and gay folk all the time all over the place. But I, myself, can't get married!)

There should be a whole new saying just for you: Always an...ordained Lutheran Minister!... Never a bride.

 

[Viki]

There should be a whole new saying just for you: Always an...ordained Lutheran Minister!... Never a bride.

Ain't it the truth!!!

 

[mickeyfan1]

I'm afraid I know nothing about the cruise ships (I first wrote, "I know nothing about cruising! Good Lord)

That is so wonderful! Very romantic. I can't wait to hear about it. (hopefully I am still able to be on the boards by then.)

There is another thing I have been wondering about. (gosh I am posting a lot today) I have heard a lot of mention about getting a gift basket from theperfectgift. How do you customize it and how do you get it sent to your room? Is there another thread for this....I'll look that up while I wait for a response. Thank you!

Hi there, I am very gay friendly, and semi cruise savy, so I thought I would answer this question about the perfect gift. Shirley Nelson Brown is the owner, she is a vendor that Disney allows on board before siling to deliver gift boxes, baskets, etc. She has a website, www.theperfectgift.com and a ton of people use her services. I believe she also has a toll free number. She seems to be able to produce just about anything people want. The only bad thing was she couldn't go to California so those of us who took the Magic through the canal for CA to FL missed out on her goodies!

I will say that I saw many gay couples on the ship, some of whom I knew fro another web site, some of whom I did not. No one seemed to pay any attention to anyone on the ship, everyone was just having a really nice time. I can not say if there were any lesbian couples, personally I didn't ask anyone when I happened to see 2 women together. It was just a very pleasant cruise and I don't think that anyone would feel other than welcome on the Magic.

 

[SparklieSunShine]

I'm afraid I know nothing about the cruise ships (I first wrote, "I know nothing about cruising! Good Lord)

Hi there, I am very gay friendly, and semi cruise savy, so I thought I would answer this question about the perfect gift. Shirley Nelson Brown is the owner, she is a vendor that Disney allows on board before siling to deliver gift boxes, baskets, etc. She has a website, www.theperfectgift.com and a ton of people use her services. I believe she also has a toll free number. She seems to be able to produce just about anything people want. The only bad thing was she couldn't go to California so those of us who took the Magic through the canal for CA to FL missed out on her goodies!

I will say that I saw many gay couples on the ship, some of whom I knew fro another web site, some of whom I did not. No one seemed to pay any attention to anyone on the ship, everyone was just having a really nice time. I can not say if there were any lesbian couples, personally I didn't ask anyone when I happened to see 2 women together. It was just a very pleasant cruise and I don't think that anyone would feel other than welcome on the Magic.

Thanks for the information! Does she deliver to the Disney hotel rooms?

 

[mickeyfan1]

That I don't know, however, there is another person on the DIS that does. Right off the top of my head I can't think of her Nick, but I will find it and repost here. (I don't think Shirley does because she lives over near the port.)

ETA The DISer that does candy bouquets is Feralpeg. You need to PM her as she can not talk about her business on the boards. But she does wonderful work. Good luck!

 

[Valentine]

Unfortunately.. Feralpeg has announced that she is taking some time off from the basket making.. her daughter is pursuing an acting career and she is chauffering her around....

Okay... so.. I have a completely NON disney question to ask... i have no real other place to ask for this advice. so, I thought hey. my DIS friends may have a word or two to offer... It is a Dating question...I am having a bit of a perplexing time right now. Here is the background.. I have been in 2 very Long Term relationships...the second one being with a woman.. She was/is the love of my life.. I THINK...However.. life happens.. and for MANY reasons.. we cannot be together... I know that I have to move on.. and I have attempted the "dating" thing very half heartedly... My heart was always with my ex.... So. I have NEVER really "dated". I have just recently started seeing someone and I don't really know if how things are going with her is "normal". With both of my last relationships, I knew them both for a long time as friends... and they both sort of just confessed their love of me to me.. and wham.. I was hooked.. with this "dating" thing.. there are no fireworks.. it is comfy... and we have a nice time together.. there is a physical attraction.. nothing has been done with regard to that though ... we have been dating for about 2 weeks... and have seen each other about 3 times during those 2 weeks.. we talk on the phone several times a week.. Not everyday... I guess I am wondering if everyone has the "fireworks" and "this is the one moments" with the person they are with... if you dont' have that do you cut your losses and move on? or wait and see if it shows up?? HELP!!! I don't want to NOT give someone a chance because of my ex.. but I also don't want to settle with someone because I feel like I should be with someone to "move on" and get over her.. Any advice??

Thanks for any opinions!

 

[Belle23]

Well I am no expert on relationships considering my partner is the one and only person I have been with (going on 5 years in January). I was 19 when I met her she was a new manager that worked where I worked. I could not stand her at first and I think that was because I just never liked changes and I had already worked at that place for three years and had the same manager so I was not happy when she came in. Well lets just say that three months later she stole my heart and she is my soul mate. I had never looked at women in a romantic sexual way, but I believe that we are soul mates and even if we were a dog and a cat we would be together. Like I said before I have never had a boyfriend or a girlfriend. My whole life I just felt like I was going to find "the one" so I just waited for fate to happen. I am just so lucky that I found her so young and we have our whole lives together. I am sure that you will find the one and you just shouldn't go out looking and let it happen because it will. Anyways, that is just my opinion on the subject. I hope that you do find your soul mate soon because it is great knowing I am going to grow old with my partner.