GAC for low vision?

[smidgy]

They gave me a GAC for visual impairment, but in the end it didn't do me any good.

I also have issues with needing time for my eyes to adjust. I would show the GAC at dark rides and ask if I could wait in the loading area until my eyes adjusted, but I was always told no. The CM's at the Haunted Mansion were the rudest ones about it.

I'm so sorry. this is why following disney's soon to be defunct policy of allowing "late" fast passes worked so well for people like you and my hubby Nebo. we could collect them in the morning to use in the evening when you can actually see on the rides.

and still enjoy a lot of the park in the daytime, when you can see while walking through the paths, and see what's all around you. (I'm talking about people with LOW vision. for those who are totally blind, this doesn't apply, and while I am very sorry for you, this is not the disability I am talking about. it may be one day, but not now)

I think they can let you in the handicap line, to go in the exit way. (but then you would miss the stretching room , etc.) of course this is no help during the day. only to make your wait shorter at night, which it would be in the morning, if you could ride the ride in the morning when there are shorter waits.

 

[disfan07]

this, to me, is so sad, that someone with a disablility would be annoyed by someone else's disability. esp. by the fact that it isn't "as bad as" their own.

yeah, he wants to see AS MUCH AS HE CAN, ..FOR AS LONG AS HE CAN . '
and you have a problem with this.. WHY? becuase you are blind, and he is not totally blind?

your insinuation that we are lying, that he can't
truly" see in the dark.. I'll just bypass that. but maybe someday he will have to rely on audio description...


but TODAY is NOT that DAY!!! and hopefully not the next day!!! and we know that a diagonosis of Macular degeneration means just that..(degeneration) but jeez. yes , he can still drive. in the daytime. and still see things good in the day time. maybe that will be for quite a few years!!! (hopefully, he is only 57).I was only trying to ask about any accomodations (GAC) for low vision.

and I knew most of the people on the disabilites board would be very friendly and helpful.

have faith in that!

My grandpa is 85 and has macular degeneration. He did have surgery (I don't remember exactly what surgery it was) but he can still drive, play golf, etc. His gout adn arthritis limits him more than the macular degeneration. His brother is 88 and also has macular degeneration....as far as I know, he still drives as well.

Best wishes to both of you and some pixie dust for you guys that your husbands diagnosis will be very slow progression.

 

[gilesmt]

To me it is so sad that someone's husband with a true disability which will render him blind someday would insult a whole class of blind persons and say they would not or should not want to go on a ride that they could not see, why live at all if you are going to be blind.

On a disability board who deal with tons of people who try to cheat the system many get use to the cheats asking how to cheat the system, like those who want a front of the line pass but not a w/c, or those with endurance issues who refuse to rent w/c, or those who are blind and can walk and see and even drive a car, but want a way to skip the lines.

On a disability board we give suggestions, and we can usually tell who really needs the help by the answers we get back, you can go at night, your response, my husband worked all his life and was up at 4 am, why should we have to go at night, because, he will not be working while on vacation, that is when he will see, because that is a reasonable accommodation and because you should be thankful that he can still see.

You could rent the audio discriptive device, your response, why he can still see we want an equal experience, no you don't, if he has an endurance people and did not want to rent a w/c us on the board no that we gave good advice. If he can not see in dark rides, than he is giving a reasonable accommodation when he is offered a device that will describe the attraction to him, it is not to your liking but just like for those who do not want to rent a w/c it is a reasonable accommodation, especially when during the day we will see him up, walking, running and enjoying himself as if nothing is wrong. If your husband does not need that or is to embarrassed to use one, that does not mean Disney did not offer a reasonable accommodation, I would question how your husband will feel when he truly is blind and if you will tell him he can't enjoy life anymore like you did blind people.

Then you continue to insult and add injury because you start talking about it as a game people play. Your the only one playing a game, you want a shorter line than others, not a reasonable accommodation.

Then you insult my ability to make reasonable references as to your husbands disability. For your knowledge I worked as an eligibility specialist for social security for 25 years, you post, that he can see during the day, that he can drive, that he can walk I will assume without a can, that he can go through a regular queue line but you don't won't to, if he qualifies under social security, someone did not do there job correctly, or he does not tell his doctors the truth. Social security would not even qualify him as legally blind, never mind statutory blind which is more regulous and is what social security has to go by. Your husband does not fit the criteria for either legally blind, statutorily blind or low vision, so I was just pointing out the fact that many people on these boards will say the have to be accommodated but they would not even fit under the ADA law.

Does your husband, let me rephrase that, could your husband have a diagnosis, yes, but does that mean he is entitled under ADA title three NO. If he wants to try to fall under this title as a visually impaired person, than just like those with endurance problems he needs to except the reasonable accommodation disney offers, if he can not see on a dark ride and want an EQUAL experience than he will need to rent an audio descriptive device and listen to it. If not he can follow all the other suggestions you turned down as not reasonable which I thought were, collecting the fast passes at night just like every other guest has to do, going on dark rides when it is dark, and so on.

If Disney had to offer every person what they thought was reasonable they could or would not accommodate anyone, I think it is a reasonable accommodation to put kennels at ever exit that guide dogs can not go on. Or for Disney to pay my companion since I need them to watch my dog while I go on rides. Are these reasonable? A judge will decide.

this, to me, is so sad, that someone with a disablility would be annoyed by someone else's disability. esp. by the fact that it isn't "as bad as" their own.

yeah, he wants to see AS MUCH AS HE CAN, ..FOR AS LONG AS HE CAN . '
and you have a problem with this.. WHY? becuase you are blind, and he is not totally blind?

your insinuation that we are lying, that he can't
truly" see in the dark.. I'll just bypass that. but maybe someday he will have to rely on audio description...


but TODAY is NOT that DAY!!! and hopefully not the next day!!! and we know that a diagonosis of Macular degeneration means just that..(degeneration) but jeez. yes , he can still drive. in the daytime. and still see things good in the day time. maybe that will be for quite a few years!!! (hopefully, he is only 57).

I was only trying to ask about any accomodations (GAC) for low vision.

and I knew most of the people on the disabilites board would be very friendly and helpful.

 

[gilesmt]

Oh and since so far I may not be the expert, but I am the only one with vision problems to charm in, a GAC card for visual impairment would be front row seating in a theater. That's all folks, nothing else. I have been 16 times over the years, and been told my GAC would be to have my family do everything for me. Disney is being sued for blind individuals, you know those that should not be there any way because who could possibly enjoy riding a ride and not seeing. My family has to guide me threw the park, even if I have a dog, because unlike them having to fix sidewalks for w/c's Disney does not have to force all traffic to go in the same direction, or for there to be 90 degree angles so me and my guide dog can maneuver the walkways. Disney does not have to provide free tickets to my family although they are making it o I can not go in alone. Disney does not have to provide me a place at parades. Disney most of the time will only allow me to sit in the back of the theaters, because that is where all w/c GAC cards go. Disney does not offer me maps, schedules or menus in alternative format. Disney just started to offer audio description, and some braille stuff but since there are four grades of Braille and less than 30% of blind people read any one of the four and it is complication this reallyonly accommodates less than 5% of blind/visually impaired persons.

So if Disney can not accommodate blind individuals with an equal experience, why should they accommodate just one individual with a better than equal experience.

When Disney first started to tell persons with endurance problems to get a w/c people would say on these boards but that's not reasonable, my husband, brother, sister, parent can walk, but years later we see the abuse and many people who can walk do rent a w/c and the lines are longer. Disney just recently, within the last year or so put in audio descriptive devices, and since I am the only true visually impaired person who charmed in here that I know sorry if I missed someone, that the rule will be the same, Disney offers those with visual impairments the option of audio discriptive devices as a reasonable accommodation, if you close not to use one or rent one that is your choice not disneys refusal to accommodate, if you don't like it sorry.

Yell, scream and insult those who are truly impaired an offer you help, but the answer will not change just like those with endurance problems, the policy is to let them rent a w/c even if that is not the fast pass or front of the line pass they want.

 

[dclfun]

Oh and since so far I may not be the expert, but I am the only one with vision problems to charm in, a GAC card for visual impairment would be front row seating in a theater. That's all folks, nothing else. I have been 16 times over the years, and been told my GAC would be to have my family do everything for me. Disney is being sued for blind individuals, you know those that should not be there any way because who could possibly enjoy riding a ride and not seeing. My family has to guide me threw the park, even if I have a dog, because unlike them having to fix sidewalks for w/c's Disney does not have to force all traffic to go in the same direction, or for there to be 90 degree angles so me and my guide dog can maneuver the walkways. Disney does not have to provide free tickets to my family although they are making it o I can not go in alone. Disney does not have to provide me a place at parades. Disney most of the time will only allow me to sit in the back of the theaters, because that is where all w/c GAC cards go. Disney does not offer me maps, schedules or menus in alternative format. Disney just started to offer audio description, and some braille stuff but since there are four grades of Braille and less than 30% of blind people read any one of the four and it is complication this reallyonly accommodates less than 5% of blind/visually impaired persons.

So if Disney can not accommodate blind individuals with an equal experience, why should they accommodate just one individual with a better than equal experience.

When Disney first started to tell persons with endurance problems to get a w/c people would say on these boards but that's not reasonable, my husband, brother, sister, parent can walk, but years later we see the abuse and many people who can walk do rent a w/c and the lines are longer. Disney just recently, within the last year or so put in audio descriptive devices, and since I am the only true visually impaired person who charmed in here that I know sorry if I missed someone, that the rule will be the same, Disney offers those with visual impairments the option of audio discriptive devices as a reasonable accommodation, if you close not to use one or rent one that is your choice not disneys refusal to accommodate, if you don't like it sorry.

Yell, scream and insult those who are truly impaired an offer you help, but the answer will not change just like those with endurance problems, the policy is to let them rent a w/c even if that is not the fast pass or front of the line pass they want.

WOW- I'm sorry but I find your posts VERY insulting to the OP. She came here asking a question, not to get a rant against her husband and his needs. We also don't judge people here- we are here to help each other have a nice experience and vacation.

 

[livndisney]

WOW- I'm sorry but I find your posts VERY insulting to the OP. She came here asking a question, not to get a rant against her husband and his needs. We also don't judge people here- we are here to help each other have a nice experience and vacation.

I have to agree! I have found this posters comments to be very offensive. He/she makes a great point of calling out the op for a comment and then turned around made an offensive comment about "Chinese people with cameras".

To say nothing of the fact that Sue tries very hard to keep this board free of "my disability is greater than yours" comments. As stated we don't judge-this board is to help people with various needs enjoy Disney.

 

[gilesmt]

WOW- I'm sorry but I find your posts VERY insulting to the OP. She came here asking a question, not to get a rant against her husband and his needs. We also don't judge people here- we are here to help each other have a nice experience and vacation.

Maybe I am missing something, please help me. The OP stating in the second sentence that no one would want to ride in a car and not be able to see anything, she insulted me.

I read all the other post down to mine, where she states but he does not want sunglasses, he does not want this or this or this, but he does not want FOTLP. If we went in the morning our wait will be this but since we cant we wait longer. That is the gist.

I write in saying she insulted me, stating that and stating that there is an audio discription device.

She write back to me, stating first that she was sorry if she insulted me.

I except that apology and write nothing else. Willing to go on.

I never stated my disability was better than hers, never went on stating anything about her husbands was not disabled. Never insulting her as much as I insulted me.

Then she after apologizing to me, starts quoting me stating that I say my disability is better than hers. I never stated that. I just stated that facts she gave, as low vision or visually impaired, someone who can drive, walk without a white cane, and needs no help during the day may not be considered needing a reasonable accommodation, this after her insulting remark that no one would want to go and see nothing.

She then write, if her husband is truly disabled, I was not questioning whether he was not, I was saying anyone truly disabled visually has the option of discriptive devices. She goes on to say that I somehow was questioning his disability. No maybe I was questioning his need for a reasonable accommodation.

Then OP goes on to start talking about playing games.

I cant quote as much and go back and forth as fast since I am using a reader to read to me, and maybe I missed something.

But I was ready to except her apology and move on, after being told I must not be able to enjoy life, or enjoy riding in a car if I can not see. After offering her an option that no one has giving her which is a reasonable accommodation to those who are low vision or visually impaired or legally blind. It was only after she apologizes and then attacks me again that I say wait a minute. I do know a thing or two, and yes I know about macular degeneration and yes I know about visual impairments, and by your discription of your husband and the way you respond to the reasonable accommodation, he may not need it but you want a FOTLP.

IF that is a rant or rave, sorry, but not one responded to defend any of the blind persons who she insulted. I excepted her apology and did not respond back. But then she starts to attack me again after that and put words in my mouth.

Maybe the word, truly disabled was not the correct verb, since I can not see, I do sometimes in writing use words a little wrong. But it was like saying if your husband is truly paralized he is accommodated by a w/c, I did not mean to imply he was not disabled. But I did imply and meant to imply that his disability did not seem to raise to a level or a reasonable accommodation.

Next time maybe charm in when you think it is insulting to a person to be considered less than a person because we have to sit and not see.

Sue should have charmed in when she insulted me so much, the first time, or the second time or the third time, if she keeps this board free from opinions that my disability is better than yours, because it was the OP that stated that in her OP no me.

As I say, if I missed something please let me know.

To the person who has a problem with another post where I said every chinese person with a camera will ask to take a picture. YOu are right, I should not have specified a country, I should have wrote every Asian with a camera will ask to take a picture. It came from personal experience. If further explanation needs to be stated, then I have been asked for maybe 200 pictures of me and my dog, or just my dog, when at Disney, I would say 150 to 170 where Asian, I asked them why one time, and it was a Chinese person who answered, we do not have guide dogs, dogs are a delicatessent in China so he was inthrolled that a dog would guide. So I was not trying to be insensitive, but I was using knowledge I have, and putting it in poor contense and if that offended you sorry.

 

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