GAC and Fantasmic!

NiniMorris

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I know it has been discussed numerous times, but I've never paid attention. My DS hates fire and we knew better than to even try it. Well, this year he has seen something on tv that made him want to go.

Our problem is, he can't handle crowds very well. Actually not at all. (we even have to try and sit at booths when we go out to eat so he won't be sitting near anyone he doesn't know...he hasn't figured out that people are sitting behind him yet...)

Waiting in line, that long line we always see to get into F!, is not going to work. Do they have an alternative entrance? If not, can Dad and older sister go and stand in line while we wait somewhere quiet until time to go in? We have to sit near the back...really near the back.

This is the only thing he is asking for this trip and I hate to think he might have to miss it because of the wait in line. Any ideas?

He will have a GAC and stroller as wheelchair if that makes any difference.


Nini
 
Your best bet would be the Fantasmic Dinner Package where you eat at a specified full service restaurant and receive a ticket for your party to enter thru a different, less crowded entrance. You still need to arrive about 30-45 minutes before the show, but much less crowded.

From everything I know, they do not use GACs at Fantasmic for entry. I have asked and was told they do not. It would not really matter that much at any rate. I have read that they sometimes route guests with wheelchairs To enter using the dinner package route, but I have not seen that and have seen guests in wheelchairs waiting in line many times ( including my DD, Who did have aGAC, which we showed to several CMs, who told us they are not used for Fantasmic.)

They open the gates to get into the area about 1 hour before the show starts and line waiting to get in is very wide and close packed. If you and your son are waiting somewhere else nearby, you might be able to join your group IF they are close to the side of the line and IF you arrive before the line started moving. But, finding a non-crowded place to wait would not be easy. The area around Fantasmic is quite busy and there is a lot of traffic going to Tower of Terror and Rock N Roller Coaster.
Once you get inside, it is very crowded with a stream of people going to their seats plus people who are already seated leaving their group to get food from the snack bar. All these groups of people are crossing each other's paths and those crowds can't be avoided because you need to cross them to get to your seats.

There is a past thread about Fantasmic linked in post 3 of the disABILITIES FAQs thread. Even though it is not recent, nothing has changed much.
 
Thanks Sue, somehow I had a feeling that was going to be my answer. Unfortunately, it looks like we will have to forgo a visit to F! again this year. My son is a large soon to be 10 year old; with a 3 year old mind. His meltdowns are the things horror stories are written about! I don't think we are going to try and risk it this year.

Maybe I can find something to occupy him while Dad and Sis go watch it and then we can meet back up to leave.

...or maybe I can hope for a second show and try that...maybe it will be less crowded.


Nini
 
If dad and sis go to see it could I suggest that they film it and then depending on the technology you have with you he could view it at the hotel or once at home so he doesn't miss it all together and can see it in a comfortable setting for him.
 

When there are two shows, the second show uses the alternative exit for wheelchair entry. We've done that. You wait until everyone has left the theatre. Then before they let anyone in using the main gate, they let the wheelchair parties in. We waited 20 minutes or so, but wheelchair parties joined the line right up until they took us in. (Granted the earlier you were in line, the closer you were to the exit when leaving.) We were seated prior to the main gate being opened. So we were never in a crowd. Leaving is another story unless you are ahead of the crowd, don't have to stop for a stroller and can "move out". :-) But you can always wait until most of the crowd is out before exiting. Maybe with a GAC you can use that entrance if you go at a time with two shows on one night. Worth asking.
 
This was our experience in May. There were thankfully two shows (and the second show is typically less crowded) so we rested up a bit that afternoon so he wouldn't be exhausted and saw the later show. There will be an initial dump into the stadium when they first open the ropes. After that it shouldn't be that large of a crowd coming in. So we waited until they opened the ropes and walked up without much fuss.

Once arriving I asked, showed my GAC as well, if we could be permitted to sit in the back row away from the water sprays and with easy access out should DS7 become overwhelmed by the show. We were obliged and when we sat down a bit of pixie dust happened in that the CM who was working in that section worked with ASD children in her home state and spoke with DS before the show about exactly what to expect, heck she even knew the medications he was on when we started to talk about them.

HTH!
 
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When there are two shows, the second show uses the alternative exit for wheelchair entry. We've done that. You wait until everyone has left the theatre. Then before they let anyone in using the main gate, they let the wheelchair parties in. We waited 20 minutes or so, but wheelchair parties joined the line right up until they took us in. (Granted the earlier you were in line, the closer you were to the exit when leaving.) We were seated prior to the main gate being opened. So we were never in a crowd. Leaving is another story unless you are ahead of the crowd, don't have to stop for a stroller and can "move out". :-) But you can always wait until most of the crowd is out before exiting. Maybe with a GAC you can use that entrance if you go at a time with two shows on one night. Worth asking.
I don't know what their criteria for using that area for entrance is, but I have not personally seen them use it, although you are not the first person to post you used it.
Our last time at Fantasmic was in October 2010 on a night where there were 2 shows and they were not using it that night.
We arrived about 50 to 55 minutes before the first show was scheduled to begin. At that point, there was a short line to walk in and they were announcing Standing Room only. DD is in a wheelchair and I also showed her GAC to several CMs going in, they said GACs were not being used and just to keep going. I asked if GACs would be used for the second show and whether there would be a place to wait with wheelchairs for the second show rather than the large line.
I was told there would not be, so we decided to just keep going in for the second show. We did not know how many wheelchair spots there would fopr that show and decided if we got there and all were gone, we would go to the second show.
We ended up with the next to last wheelchair spot for someone who needed to remain in their wheelchair.

We were directed to the farthest seats on the left side of the stage (the very end seats). After the show, we waited to leave the show area until most guests had left. The path leaving crossed in front of the rope that entering guests were waiting behind. We saw several ECVs almost at the front and several guests with wheelchais toward the front of the crowd of people, so they had been among the first to get in line and were not pulled out.
As we went past the entrance to the Fantasmic theater, we saw that half the street was roped off to form a waiting line, which stretched almost all the way to the Vilians shop. We saw at least 12 guests in wheelchairs and EVCs mixed in the line with the other guests from the Fantasmic entry to the end of the line.
This was our experience in May. There were thankfully two shows (and the second show is typically less crowded) so we rested up a bit that afternoon so he wouldn't be exhausted and saw the later show. There will be an initial dump into the stadium when they first open the ropes. After that it shouldn't be that large of a crowd coming in. So we waited until they opened the ropes and walked up without much fuss.

Once arriving I asked, showed my GAC as well, if we could be permitted to sit in the back row away from the water sprays and with easy access out should DS7 become overwhelmed by the show. We were obliged and when we sat down a bit of pixie dust happened in that the CM who was working in that section worked with ASD children in her home state and spoke with DS before the show about exactly what to expect, heck she even knew the medications he was on when we started to talk about them.

HTH!
If there are 2 shows, the second is typically less crowded.
For both shows, they open up the ropes as much as an hour ahead of the show to get people seated. While guests are waiting for the ropes to open, the lines are long.
Once the ropes have opened and guests are getting seated, the line goes down very quickly.

The very last row of the theater seating is set up for guests with wheelchairs, ECVs and other mobility devices. There are 2 parking spots, then a small bench for one companion to sit next to each wheelchair. The 2 rows ahead of that row are for guests traveling with those using mobility devices or those guests with GACs who need to sit near the back.
If your child is using a stroller as a wheelchair, it could be parked in the wheelchair spots, but those of us whose family member can't move appreciate guests moving and sitting on a bench if they are able. You can take th ability device to the seats and then a CM will move it.
That way, a child who needs the security of a stroller could stay in it for as long as possible.
 
When we went to fantasmic with my Aspie, I went EARLY and approached a CM. I explained that we had the GAC, and that my son frequently got overwhelmed/overstimulated and scared during fireworks shows etc. He was very interested in seeing the show, however. I said that we normally would have no issue sitting anywhere, except that, if he did become scared we needed a nearby exit, preferably not where we would interfere with anyone elses pleasure, and also that when he was excited, he hops and flaps. I asked where the best spot would be, not expecting to be ushered by them, but attempting to get in and secure a location (yes, seat saving is not allowed, I know). However they asked to meet my son, and we too were lucky to have a CM with familiarity with spectrum issues. He helped my son to the very end section, front row, at the second to right most seating area. Our family was able to join us. My son was VERY excited and was hopping around, and there is an area to the front that he could move in. Because it was a danger to him (benches) and others around him (trips, falls etc) they made sure to keep him and others safe. We were in a low time for disney though, end of September, beginning of August.

The CM's were amazing! they treated him like visiting royalty!

(I won't mention the meltdown he had as we had to leave the park because he thought he wasn't going to get to go back to the Star Wars area :sad2: He had difficulty understanding we still had 7 days left in teh parks!)
 
I would suggest that you find the show on youtube and watch it on your big screen TV with the sound all the way up in you living room before you "risk" the line. We haven't taken our kids but DH and I saw it on our last trip. I really wish disney would do a "G" rated show for families with small kids once a week. There are parts my kids woudl love, but the other parts would give us weeks of sleepless nights.
 
IF you decide to go, I still think the dinner package is the best route. This includes a reservation at either Mama Melrose, Hollywood & Vine, or The Brown Derby, often early enough to avoid the crowds (except in June when we went) and entrance using the alternate entrance that is much less crowded. There is also a special seating area so getting a seat in the last row should not be a problem. When we went the park was packed and there was a huge line at the regular entrance, but we got there about 1/2 an hour before the show and never saw more than 5 or 6 people in line ahead of us. And Mama Melrose does have booths available - and if you talked to the manager there, he might be able to help the arrangements. They really will do all they can to help out!
 
I have found that during NON-BUSY times (like early Sept), for WC seating you can kind of let the initial rush of people get into the theater, then follow them. WC seating is in demand, but if you go right after the big rush but still well before showtime, it usually isn't full in a slow season. Party size is also a factor. It's usually just 2 of us - so it is much easier for them to find one WC and one companion seat, than say for a party of six.
 

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