FYI: More Cuts Coming

[Robo]

Digital ticket books might make us sell off our DVC.

If you can find takers.
"Critical mass" can be reached in a short time if the news goes bad.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Digital ticket books might make us sell off our DVC.

I thought you might sell over FP+...

 

[Jennasis]

I thought you might sell over FP+...

Technically we bought in after FP+. Luckily, while i still don't like it, it hasn't been the ruiner i thought it would be. We would have to give the same consideration to an electronic return to old school ticket books.

We arent made of money lol.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

If you can find takers.
"Critical mass" can be reached in a short time if the news goes bad.

My goodness. If reaction was THAT BAD they'd reverse it. And in time they'd gain back some disgruntled "old guests", and gain "new guests".

A change in ticketing -- no matter how poorly received -- isn't an irreversible, brand-killing death nail.

IMO.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Technically we bought in after FP+. Luckily, while i still don't like it, it hasn't been the ruiner i thought it would be. We would have to give the same consideration to an electronic return to old school ticket books.

We arent made of money lol.

Absolutely! I have to say... electronic ticket booth sounds horrible to me... so horrible that I don't think they'd do it, but who knows?!?!

 

[Jennasis]

My goodness. If reaction was THAT BAD they'd reverse it. And in time they'd gain back some disgruntled "old guests", and gain "new guests".

A change in ticketing -- no matter how poorly received -- isn't an irreversible, brand-killing death nail.

IMO.

I believe he meant critical mass in terms of the resale market. If things go down quickly they will be a mass sell-off of people trying to get out of their contracts therefore making it difficult for anybody to get out of their contracts.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

I believe he meant critical mass in terms of the resale market. If things go down quickly they will be a mass sell-off of people trying to get out of their contracts therefore making it difficult for anybody to get out of their contracts.

I don't disagree with that -- I just think it would rebound. IF that happens, HANG ONTO IT for a while!! That's what we'd do with ours -- I'd bet on them fixing it.

 

[Jennasis]

I don't disagree with that -- I just think it would rebound. IF that happens, HANG ONTO IT for a while!! That's what we'd do with ours.

We've actually given consideration to what we'd do if things at Disney got bad. We are in fact dipping our toes into that scenario for our next year's trip. We're going to stay at our dvc resort and use it as a home base while we enjoy the rest of Florida's offerings. We're going to go to universal and Discovery Cove possibly down to Busch Gardens for the day or SeaWorld and then we'll probably use a couple of days in Vero Beach. No parks at Disney for us in 2017.

 

[JimmyV]

I believe he meant critical mass in terms of the resale market. If things go down quickly they will be a mass sell-off of people trying to get out of their contracts therefore making it difficult for anybody to get out of their contracts.

Could turn out to be a financial windfall for Disney. Since Disney has a right of first refusal on sales, it can swoop up all the units being sold at the market-depressed price, then rent those units as hotel rooms for the next 5 years. Then, after Star Wars Land is completed, there will be a whole new generation of first time visitors who will go to WDW and love it and then Disney can sell the bought-back units at inflated prices.

 

[Jennasis]

Could turn out to be a financial windfall for Disney. Since Disney has a right of first refusal on sales, it can swoop up all the units being sold at the market-depressed price, then rent those units as hotel rooms for the next 5 years. Then, after Star Wars Land is completed, there will be a whole new generation of first time visitors who will go to WDW and love it and then Disney can sell the bought-back units at inflated prices.

Muwahahaaaa! !!!

 

[Jennasis]

Anybody gettin' the impression this guy is running the show over there?

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Could turn out to be a financial windfall for Disney. Since Disney has a right of first refusal on sales, it can swoop up all the units being sold at the market-depressed price, then rent those units as hotel rooms for the next 5 years. Then, after Star Wars Land is completed, there will be a whole new generation of first time visitors who will go to WDW and love it and then Disney can sell the bought-back units at inflated prices.

Muwahahaaaa! !!!

STRATEGERY!!

 

[DebbieB]

More news on cuts.

The majority of efficiency positions will be cut. Those posiotions are people who are stationed at the start of lines, and on load and unload docks.

A reduction in back of house kitchen staff across property.

Loss of register staff.

And more cuts to hours to come.

The load and unload dock reduction could compromise safety.

Digital ticket books might make us sell off our DVC.

I could see them doing the digital ticket book on a 1 day ticket, I can't see it happening on multi-day and especially not on annual passes.

 

[Tinkerdreams]

I don't understand the stance on selling DVC if Disney takes to a different type of ticketing. DVC is a place to stay - doesn't mean when you go down and stay at a DVC you are forced to go into a Disney park. There is a whole state outside your door and plenty to do in the Orlando area. Did I miss something?

 

[JimmyV]

I don't understand the stance on selling DVC if Disney takes to a different type of ticketing. DVC is a place to stay - doesn't mean when you go down and stay at a DVC you are forced to go into a Disney park. There is a whole state outside your door and plenty to do in the Orlando area. Did I miss something?

I think so. Buying a DVC membership evidences a commitment to going to WDW over and over again over an extended period of time. The only reason to do that is if you are enjoying your trips there more so than you would enjoy the alternatives. If Disney makes changes to park operations that result in a decrease in overall enjoyment, then the desire to return over and over again will recede. And as a result, one might be inclined to cut their losses and sell. While it is certainly possible for someone to own a DVC membership and visit Florida without ever going into the parks, I suspect that this demographic is but a small sliver of owners. If I wanted to own a timeshare in Central Florida for the purposes of enjoying the Orlando area to the exclusion of the Disney parks, a DVC membership would be the most economically disadvantageous way to do so. Non-Disney timeshares can be had for a song.

 

[mom2rtk]

I don't understand the stance on selling DVC if Disney takes to a different type of ticketing. DVC is a place to stay - doesn't mean when you go down and stay at a DVC you are forced to go into a Disney park. There is a whole state outside your door and plenty to do in the Orlando area. Did I miss something?

While you aren't required to visit a Disney park when you stay at a DVC resort, I do think a lot of people might choose to visit other places if they gave up on the Disney parks. Sure some would do a Universal trip, but plenty of others would rather go to the beach.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

I don't understand the stance on selling DVC if Disney takes to a different type of ticketing. DVC is a place to stay - doesn't mean when you go down and stay at a DVC you are forced to go into a Disney park. There is a whole state outside your door and plenty to do in the Orlando area. Did I miss something?

To be honest, if Disney wasn't in Orlando, DVC or not, we'd spend those vacation dollars elsewhere. I know others WOULD do just as you suggest, though, and do other stuff in that area -- at least for a while. Preference issue.

 

[Jennasis]

I don't understand the stance on selling DVC if Disney takes to a different type of ticketing. DVC is a place to stay - doesn't mean when you go down and stay at a DVC you are forced to go into a Disney park. There is a whole state outside your door and plenty to do in the Orlando area. Did I miss something?

You are assuming that at that point (where I as a member have had enough of the coroprate shenanigans and am for all intents and purposes swearing off of Wdw parks) that i would be happy limiting my future vacations to central Florida.

Not so. For a variety of reasons that dont concern you ;-) (like we cant fly to Aulani and getting a room at THe grand Californian at 7 months is wicked hard).

 

[Lothlórien]

I don't understand the stance on selling DVC if Disney takes to a different type of ticketing. DVC is a place to stay - doesn't mean when you go down and stay at a DVC you are forced to go into a Disney park. There is a whole state outside your door and plenty to do in the Orlando area. Did I miss something?

The only place where there is real value in using the points is to stay on property. Using your points at a non-Disney resort, Disney Cruise, etc is a total waste.
To go elsewhere, there is the added expense of a rental and gas. True you would need a hotel or rent house if you visit another place in FL, but most people who purchase DVC purchased because they love the parks not because they wanted a place in Florida. We pay annual dues as well. I can understand why people would not want to pay dues on a DVC resort if they are going to be spending their days elsewhere in the area. At that point it is pretty much just a place to shower and sleep. You can do that at a Value for much less. When most of us bought in there were more perks and there was great value in being a member. Over the past 5 - 7 years Disney has begun pulling it away along with the in-park cutbacks, crazy price hikes for everything and raising entry prices while pulling so much away and the number of closures.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Over the past 5 - 7 years Disney has begun pulling it away...

I hear this a lot about DVC membership, but don't really understand it. We joined 10 years ago -- I can't name one thing that has "gone away" from DVC membership... what haven't I noticed?