FP + What we know and what we want to know

[estherhead]

So Disney spent $1billion on this project right? So...where are they expecting to recoup that money? This isn't being done out of the kindness of their hearts. There has to be some moneymaking component to it that they feel will bring them a return on their investment (and I don't see that being people spending money on "special" magicbands).

There is another shoe to be dropped still.

Lots and lots of ways. They are hoping MagicBands will be souvenirs for people. Additionally, contrary to what you hear on this thread, they primarily built this new system to get people OUT of lines and into shops and restaurants and since families won't have to pull out cash and credit cards but will instead scan a Mickey bracelet for purchases they will be able to enjoy Disney without the constant reminder that the magic comes at a price and Disney is banking that that will make them spend 10-15% more.

In addition to that they are applying the RFID technology to a new video game system that they hope will make them $500 million in 2014. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

There is no plan to nickel and dime people by making them pay for additional FP's. Nor are they planning on tiers for resort guests with FPs. That is just a fear on here. They have OTHER more enjoyable ways to get a bigger chunk of your money. By relaxing you. And making you so happy you forget how hard it is to earn it and happily hand it over for another $9.00 Grand marnier Smoothie.

 

[Lorilais_mommie]

I don't remember if there was a specific question on the survey but there were several opportunities to right in opinions on how the system worked.

I think I would still use it as it gave us access to FPs we couldn't normally get like reserved seating for MSEP which was a God send on a very busy night especially with kids who are not going to camp out for hours to get a good spot.

So you would still use it, on MSEP if you could only have 3 FP+ per day? And could not grab any other FPs..

Would you use all 3 for non headliners?.. And on things like fireworks.. Just wondering..

And how and where were you seated for MSEP?

 

[mousermerf]

I don't remember if there was a specific question on the survey but there were several opportunities to right in opinions on how the system worked.

I think I would still use it as it gave us access to FPs we couldn't normally get like reserved seating for MSEP which was a God send on a very busy night especially with kids who are not going to camp out for hours to get a good spot.

I've just been saying for a while that the utilization was for parades and fireworks was something even Disney didn't expect..

 

[doconeill]

I've just been saying for a while that the utilization was for parades and fireworks was something even Disney didn't expect..

I didn't doubt it. I just can't get why they didn't expect it.

Let's see...I can use regular FP to do all the headliners, and then they offer me FP+, which allows me the choice of one of the headliners, or reserved seating for the fireworks or parade. Yet I can still use Fastpass for the headliners - but NOT fireworks/parade.

No brainer for me what I'd choose.

But that is not the choice we will apparently have now.

And perhaps the suits don't really care.

 

[poohj80]

So you would still use it, on MSEP if you could only have 3 FP+ per day? And could not grab any other FPs..

Would you use all 3 for non headliners?.. And on things like fireworks.. Just wondering..

Not sure what you mean by "nonheadliners" but I would use FP+ for MSEP and Wishes if it were a very crowded time and those were important to me on that trip. I would probably spend a different day at MK and use FP+ (assuming I can do same park on different day) for rides. I would just schedule my days around the FP+s.

For instance, If I know I have FP+ scheduled for night time events at MK, I would probably start my day at a different park and be there early to get as much done as I could without the need for FPs. This is not much different than my current touring plans other than I wouldn't need to collect FPs for later in the day during the more crowded times.

 

[doconeill]

Not sure what you mean by "nonheadliners" but I would use FP+ for MSEP and Wishes if it were a very crowded time and those were important to me on that trip. I would probably spend a different day at MK and use FP+ (assuming I can do same park on different day) for rides. I would just schedule my days around the FP+s.

For instance, If I know I have FP+ scheduled for night time events at MK, I would probably start my day at a different park and be there early to get as much done as I could without the need for FPs. This is not much different than my current touring plans other than I wouldn't need to collect FPs for later in the day during the more crowded times.

Sounds like you might be the ideal test case.

If you can afford to spend another day in the park to be able to get that one FP+ for an E-ticket, sure...not everyone can do that though.

But this goes back to my theory that they way they want you to stay on property longer is by making it impossible to do everything in a day.

 

[poohj80]

Sounds like you might be the ideal test case.

If you can afford to spend another day in the park to be able to get that one FP+ for an E-ticket, sure...not everyone can do that though.

But this goes back to my theory that they way they want you to stay on property longer is by making it impossible to do everything in a day.

I could stay two weeks and still not accomplish everything I wanted to do. That's why we always go back. FP+ isn't going to change that!

 

[Lorilais_mommie]

Not sure what you mean by "nonheadliners" but I would use FP+ for MSEP and Wishes if it were a very crowded time and those were important to me on that trip. I would probably spend a different day at MK and use FP+ (assuming I can do same park on different day) for rides. I would just schedule my days around the FP+s.

For instance, If I know I have FP+ scheduled for night time events at MK, I would probably start my day at a different park and be there early to get as much done as I could without the need for FPs. This is not much different than my current touring plans other than I wouldn't need to collect FPs for later in the day during the more crowded times.

Headliner- splash mt., BTM, space mt., Toy story, tower of terror, soarin, test track, EE,... I'm not sure Peter Pan, belle, and dumbo.. Might also be seen as headliners..

Those rides where people run to ride first thing when they hit the park .. The rides the lose FP the fastest... And lines are the longest..

Once again.. Not sure how to describe it.. ( its a know it when you see it thing)

 

[poohj80]

Headliner- splash mt., BTM, space mt., Toy story, tower of terror, soarin, test track, EE,... I'm not sure Peter Pan, belle, and dumbo.. Might also be seen as headliners..

Those rides where people run to ride first thing when they hit the park .. The rides the lose FP the fastest... And lines are the longest..

Once again.. Not sure how to describe it.. ( its a know it when you see it thing)

Right now, I would count Belle as a headliner (especially having a DD) as she has a longer line than any of the mountains.

Like I said, I would spread out my FP+s to have one MK day be for mountains and another to be for alternate options.

 

[Lorilais_mommie]

Sounds like you might be the ideal test case.

If you can afford to spend another day in the park to be able to get that one FP+ for an E-ticket, sure...not everyone can do that though.

But this goes back to my theory that they way they want you to stay on property longer is by making it impossible to do everything in a day.

But the are punishing us, who already stay over the normal 5-7 days..

They will be pushing us to US or sea world.. Like others have said.. We will plan FP+ for late afternoons evenings, and head to US or sea world for the mornings..
Or just stick with only doing 5-7 days not are normally 10 since we will not get everything we want done anyways.
Why would I pay more money for more days at WDW if I'm going to have to stand in line even longer then we do now?

 

[Tink10]

We tested FP+ in December & LOVED it...

But...

FWIW...I was just advised that it should be in place & functional by our Mid/Late March trip.

 

[Lorilais_mommie]

Right now, I would count Belle as a headliner (especially having a DD) as she has a longer line than any of the mountains.

Like I said, I would spread out my FP+s to have one MK day be for mountains and another to be for alternate options.

So then 3 days in MK now?
One for mt. One for alternate Belle, Peter, and M&G with princesses, and one for fireworks and shows ?

Now what about the other parks?
Two days in each to do the same?

Maybe this is what disney wants.. If people are willing to stay longer.. It's starting to become clear..

 

[DougEMG]

I've just been saying for a while that the utilization was for parades and fireworks was something even Disney didn't expect..

Which just shows that they never really thought this through. Anyone with half a brain should figure out that if you can still use FP for rides, then the logical thing to do would be to use FP+ on things that don't have FP , ie parades, fireworks and character greetings.

So I think the testing period was fine from the view of getting all the technical pieces tested, but it is not a test of the real world usage of FP+. To do that they need to do testing that was identical to what the production system would be like (ie not allow the test group to use FP).

When I first heard about the FP+ I thought it sounded great, but my assumption was that I would also be allowed to use the regular FP as well. With all the restrictions around it now though, it will definitely be more restrictive and not let me tour the way I do not, so a net reduction in my enjoyment.

What I don't see is why they wouldn't let you book 3 FP+ in advance and then still let you book additional FP+ while in a park under the same rules as the current FP. This essentially combines the best of the FP+ and FP systems into one system and would keep both groups of customers happy.

 

[Lorilais_mommie]

We tested FP+ in December & LOVED it...

But...

FWIW...I was just advised that it should be in place & functional by our Mid/Late March trip.

Would you chose it if you are not able to use regular FP? And limited to only 3 FP+ per day ? If so what would your three be?

 

[doconeill]

But the are punishing us, who already stay over the normal 5-7 days..

They will be pushing us to US or sea world.. Like others have said.. We will plan FP+ for late afternoons evenings, and head to US or sea world for the mornings..

Are you actually prepared to spend $90 just for a morning at USO/SW?

 

[Lorilais_mommie]

What I don't see is why they wouldn't let you book 3 FP+ in advance and then still let you book additional FP+ while in a park under the same rules as the current FP. This essentially combines the best of the FP+ and FP systems into one system.

This is what we have all be saying..
However since disney didn't use this a huge selling point,( bc it would have been) we are not very hopeful it will happen at all..

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Not sure what you mean by "nonheadliners" but I would use FP+ for MSEP and Wishes if it were a very crowded time and those were important to me on that trip. I would probably spend a different day at MK and use FP+ (assuming I can do same park on different day) for rides. I would just schedule my days around the FP+s.

For instance, If I know I have FP+ scheduled for night time events at MK, I would probably start my day at a different park and be there early to get as much done as I could without the need for FPs. This is not much different than my current touring plans other than I wouldn't need to collect FPs for later in the day during the more crowded times.

I could stay two weeks and still not accomplish everything I wanted to do. That's why we always go back. FP+ isn't going to change that!

Right now, I would count Belle as a headliner (especially having a DD) as she has a longer line than any of the mountains.

Like I said, I would spread out my FP+s to have one MK day be for mountains and another to be for alternate options.

I'm confused... did I miss the part where you told Disney that the world would come to an end if they instituted this system resort-wide?!?

A bit of hyperbole of my own.

Glad to hear of your positive experience -- ACTUAL EXPERIENCE -- with at least a partial rollout (though regular FP were still available). Thanks for sharing it, and I'm glad to have at least ONE positive thing to file away on FP+ from this site!

 

[Tink10]

Would you chose it if you are not able to use regular FP? And limited to only 3 FP+ per day ? If so what would your three be?

Absolutely...

We've been so many times, that the rides aren't really important, but in December, we were able to get regular Fastpasses aside from FP+.

Can't say what three they'd be...

 

[Lorilais_mommie]

Are you actually prepared to spend $90 just for a morning at USO/SW?

We would most likely spend the day at SW with the kids.. And book ADR for MK around 6:30 with FP+ to follow..

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

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