ryalluvdiz said:See ya in June! Hopefully on a short line for a few FP!
Hope so!
ryalluvdiz said:See ya in June! Hopefully on a short line for a few FP!
I really hope regular fastpass doesn't go away. I likely won't use this plus thing. I don't really go to parades or fireworks. If there's a character I don't mind waiting in line and if its too long I just move on. At least I have till December to see what happens. I may shorten my trip depending on what I hear.
Great thread! Thanks OP for gathering all this in one place!
I am still working on reading and absorbing all this, and I totally understand the concerns that we will be left out of the fun if we don't want to super plan our day...but I am wondering, if folks are limited to 3 FP+ isn't that about the average most guest are getting now? Or do you think its more or less? Perhaps this won't have the impact on standby time we fear....
I am still working on reading and absorbing all this, and I totally understand the concerns that we will be left out of the fun if we don't want to super plan our day...but I am wondering, if folks are limited to 3 FP+ isn't that about the average most guest are getting now? Or do you think its more or less? Perhaps this won't have the impact on standby time we fear....
Yes, I was going to mention that it finally solves the "eBay" problem of Fastpasses.
I am still working on reading and absorbing all this, and I totally understand the concerns that we will be left out of the fun if we don't want to super plan our day...but I am wondering, if folks are limited to 3 FP+ isn't that about the average most guest are getting now? Or do you think its more or less? Perhaps this won't have the impact on standby time we fear....
Actually, I think one of the obvious goals of the entire project is get people out of standby lines. If the FP+ program is successful in changing visitors touring patterns by getting more people to go to the underutilized attractions, standby lines across the park could balance out. But of course this means that the very short lines (or no wait) attractions will have longer waits, and the longer wait rides would be shorter. This is all theory though, part of this plan is to cycle a lot people through the CoP, HoP, Stitch, Peoplemover etc. It will be interesting to see if people migrate that way more regularly.
OK, so two follow up questions.
1. How does this work for parades and QS restaurants?, anyone do that during testing or heard of this experience?
2. How does the FP+ get people to the lesser ridden rides????
I completely disagree with FP+. The days of just walking in a park and riding attractions on the spot is over. I think FP+ is really a huge marketing scheme in search of more PROFIT. This is what I think Disney is trying to do...
-Charge for extra FP+ credits-$$$
-Control ADRs by making them count as a FP+ credit, causing people to buy more or stay on-site-$$$
-Keep people on property by filling up resort rooms by giving a premium to WDW resort guests-$$$
-Eventually phase out original FP, saving paper and ultimately $$$
-Give people a very small amount of FP+ credits, increasing sales of extra FP+ credits or rooms-$$$
-Discouraging guests to pay in cash, therefore create a false illusion of NOT spending, urging them to spend MORE (kinda like KTTW, but different, off-site guests included)-$$$
-Reserving parades and fireworks, lessening the need for crowd-control CMs-$$$
-Allow guests to stay in their rooms when they would have normally been at the park rushing for FPs, allowing guests to sleep in and stay until closing and/or go to DTD-$$$
OK, so two follow up questions.
1. How does this work for parades and QS restaurants?, anyone do that during testing or heard of this experience?
2. How does the FP+ get people to the lesser ridden rides????
1. Parades/Fireworks- Guests show up X minutes before the start-time and are allowed into a reserved section to see the show.
2. By offering FP+ for rides that otherwise don't NEED FP.
As the top-tier (often called "E-ticket") attractions' FP's will all be taken very quickly (or the number of FP+ a guest can reserve for E-ticket rides will be limited) that means that guests will, by default, choose some FP+ for the lesser rides. Guests will be steered in this way to the lesser rides for which they have FP's.
I love the Jedi mind trick comment, you've already made my day happy. Thank you!! "This is not the Splash Mountain experience you were looking for..."
If Disney is banking on the having that level of power (of suggestion) to shift ride demand in a P.T. Barnum "This way to the egress" kind of way, an unpleasant surprise awaits.
It's a patented Jedi Mind trick that Disney owns now. "Splash Mountain? ...You don't want Splash Mountain. You want A Character Meet and Greet with Merida. Now Push the get Fastpass plus button and head to the castle area. Here is a map."
And to stop uberusers from riding the same ride multiple times while other guests are waiting 2 hours in a standaby line for that ride.![]()
OK, so two follow up questions.
1. How does this work for parades and QS restaurants?, anyone do that during testing or heard of this experience?
In the park it rarely takes more than a few hours before the FPs for the entire day are gone. That means people got up early, got dressed, made it into the park, and got in line for their FPs. So if at, say, 6 AM we can all roll over, pick up our phones, laptops, ipads, etc, log in and pick our TSMM FP for that day, I can't imagine that 5 minutes (seconds) later there will be any FP+ left for that day.