FP - allowed returns later than 1, 2 or more hours??

[Corwin]

I'm sure this has been asked, but I don't want to rake over 300 fp threads,
but why in the world wasn't the fp enforced in the first place? I'm not trying to "stir the pot", just seriously curious.
Was it just oversight? Or was it meant originally to be just a suggestion of time return?

This is the wrong thread for this question, because if anybody attempts to answer it, someone else will disagree with them, and the thread will quickly get derailed into another pointless debate, which the OP specifically did not want.

 

[Disney Addicted]

You haven't been on the DIS very long...you'll get used to how it rolls 'round here. Of course, one could always remind you of the old adage "Be the change."

And you have been around long enough to know you shouldn't judge a person by their join date. I have been around longer than it looks. One reason why I rarely join debates.

Thanks to those who started posting real experiences. And to Sammie for digging up some examples!

 

[mesaboy2]

I guess this debate is going to get even more heated when they bring out the next generation of fastpass, rumored only to be available to resort guests. (and even then it may be only deluxe resort guests?).

The rumor is 2013, but I spotted some interesting photos on another site, showing something new at the entrance to Star Tours and Tower OF Terror. My total guess that these are related to beginning to test out the new next gen fastpass schemes very soon -

here are the photos of what I'm talking about

Those boxes are apparently gone.

 

[Jennasis]

And you have been around long enough to know you shouldn't judge a person by their join date. I have been around longer than it looks. One reason why I rarely join debates.

Thanks to those who started posting real experiences. And to Sammie for digging up some examples!

Be the change.

Here you are continuing to banter with me, while bemoaning people not sticking strictly to the topic at hand.

 

[RMulieri]

Happy 17,000 POSTSJennasis !!!
I swear these FP posts are like rabbits...they multiply every morning I turn on my computer...LOL....

 

[LaurenT]

Thanks for not even attempting to understand what I was saying. Insufferable? Pretty harsh don't you think? I don't think that the OP was purposely attempting to find a way around the rule but the mere fact of posting how anyone got them to extend it, if they did, is fodder for someone else to try it, honestly or not
What ruins a place like WDW for the rest of us are people that incessantly try to find a way to give themselves an advantage over others by whatever means it takes. I suppose it would make good reading but what possible difference does it make what people did or didn't get away with. All any of us have to concentrate
on is what the rules are and how to stay within them, not 1001 ways to get around the rules which a thread like this will encourage.

Therefore, I don't think this is the place to be doing this type of thread. A thread that would be helpful to DISers and other visitors alike is how to plan your day
working within the system.
I also was not saying that the OP was lying, but my bet is that the majority of those that would post an answer to "how late did they let you go" will provide ideas for those that are more than willing to lie
through their collective teeth to get what they want.

I respectfully disagree. People who want to cheat will find a way and honest discourse here should not be tailored to their potential misuse.
If I am held up in first aid with a minor issue for someone in my party, when I am done and my FP return time ended an hour ago, o would like to know whether or not I have a shot at getting on the FP line before schlepping my tush all the way across the park... That being just one example - of course.

 

[popsynic]

Those boxes are apparently gone.

curiouser and curiouser

wonder what was in the mysterious boxes???

 

[Mom-2-2Princesses]

I'm interested in hearing about people's experiences in the parks, too, but not because I am bemoaning the enforcement (we happily return w/in the window) or trying to find a way around the rules. I am interested in learning how certain situations are being handled.

For instance, we once had a lunch at CP take more than 2.5 hours-- at least an hour longer than it should have-- and we missed our FP window as a result. We *should* have had plenty of time to both eat and make the FP window, but due to some circumstances beyond our control (v.e.r.y. long delay in being seated, v.e.r.y slow server, etc.), we wound up outside the FP window. At the time, it wasn't an issue, because we knew we would be permitted to use the FP late. Now, that would not be the case. What I would like to know, in this instance, is how this is being handled. Would I get my FP's stamped at the restaurant? Would I just explain the situation to the CM at the ride entrance? Would I have to schlep up to guest services?

All I really want is to get practical information on what I will need to do if I miss the window as a result of circumstances beyond my control.

 

[UNCFanatik]

I'm interested in hearing about people's experiences in the parks, too, but not because I am bemoaning the enforcement (we happily return w/in the window) or trying to find a way around the rules. I am interested in learning how certain situations are being handled.

For instance, we once had a lunch at CP take more than 2.5 hours-- at least an hour longer than it should have-- and we missed our FP window as a result. We *should* have had plenty of time to both eat and make the FP window, but due to some circumstances beyond our control (v.e.r.y. long delay in being seated, v.e.r.y slow server, etc.), we wound up outside the FP window. At the time, it wasn't an issue, because we knew we would be permitted to use the FP late. Now, that would not be the case. What I would like to know, in this instance, is how this is being handled. Would I get my FP's stamped at the restaurant? Would I just explain the situation to the CM at the ride entrance? Would I have to schlep up to guest services?

All I really want is to get practical information on what I will need to do if I miss the window as a result of circumstances beyond my control.

I fail to see how this is beyond your control. You control when you go to lunch. You control when you pull the fastpass that has a stated return time on it. Why should Disney give you a Fastpass exception because of your choices that made you miss your Fastpass window. Disney didnt make you miss your return time. YOUR choices did.

Again, I really hope Disney is strict with their enforcement and will not give out too many fastpass exceptions, otherwise abuse will run rampant.

 

[MistressMerryweather]

I fail to see how this is beyond your control. You control when you go to lunch. You control when you pull the fastpass that has a stated return time on it. Why should Disney give you a Fastpass exception because of your choices that made you miss your Fastpass window. Disney didnt make you miss your return time. YOUR choices did.

Again, I really hope Disney is strict with their enforcement and will not give out too many fastpass exceptions, otherwise abuse will run rampant.

Agreed. Even if it took an hour to be seated, it shouldn't take more than an hour to eat, if your fastpass was a priority, and the only thing CP servers do are bring drinks and the check. It's a buffet and unless you have a family member that has a disability and needs extra time when eating, then it isn't a valid excuse. IMHO
I really hope they don't let people through unless there as an emergency situation. Example: medical delay or delayed because of disability.
Otherwise, everything else is an excuse. Its an amusement park fast pass, if you're late, let it go.

 

[RMulieri]

I think this month is not a good guage as to how well the enforcement will run..It is spring break time and it is busy and there is going to be issues right now

 

[mesaboy2]

I think this month is not a good guage as to how well the enforcement will run..It is spring break time and it is busy and there is going to be issues right now

Exactly.

 

[RMulieri]

Exactly.

I have seen so many posts here and on other forums saying how long the standby lines and FP lines are and it must be because the enforcement..Um NO..It is the fact that it is Spring Break time and it is busy .Plus any time Disney changes a policy it takes awhile to wrinkle out the issues with it.

 

[mesaboy2]

I have seen so many posts here and on other forums saying how long the standby lines and FP lines are and it must be because the enforcement..Um NO..It is the fact that it is Spring Break time and it is busy .Plus any time Disney changes a policy it takes awhile to wrinkle out the issues with it.

Preacher? Meet choir.

 

[popsynic]

I fail to see how this is beyond your control. You control when you go to lunch. You control when you pull the fastpass that has a stated return time on it. Why should Disney give you a Fastpass exception because of your choices that made you miss your Fastpass window. Disney didnt make you miss your return time. YOUR choices did.

Again, I really hope Disney is strict with their enforcement and will not give out too many fastpass exceptions, otherwise abuse will run rampant.

To be fair to the person asking the question - it is beyond their control if they are seated way past the ADR time, and it is beyond their control if their server is slowwwwwww. It didn't sound to me like the person asking the question was planning on committing any form of abuse.

 

[mmwalker]

I fail to see how this is beyond your control. You control when you go to lunch. You control when you pull the fastpass that has a stated return time on it. Why should Disney give you a Fastpass exception because of your choices that made you miss your Fastpass window. Disney didnt make you miss your return time. YOUR choices did.

Again, I really hope Disney is strict with their enforcement and will not give out too many fastpass exceptions, otherwise abuse will run rampant.

Yes, they could control when they made an ADR, but being seated very late (I have been seated over an hour past my ADR on many occasions) is not under their control. I don't believe a reasonable person would expect to take two and a half hours for lunch and most reasonable people would think they had enough time to return to the attraction. It was not only the poster's choices as you say, but other circumstances. I don't want them to make exceptions for every papercut, but I do think real reasonable situations happen and they will be dealt with (as the press release stated) on a case by case basis!

 

[RMulieri]

Preacher? Meet choir.

Nice to meet you

 

[goofyernmost]

Goofyrnmost - I LOVE that name, wish you understood my point better and didnt assume the worst of me. Sydnerella's Mama

Sydnerella, I can assure you that I have not once assumed the worst of you. In fact that thought never crossed my mind until others brought it up. What did cross my mind was that there were many potential ways that information like that could and would be twisted in dishonest ways by others. I just didn't think it appropriate for a site that is supposed to be helpful to people to have a successful and happy visit to WDW. The rule is now in place and it is irrelevant who got away with going past the window or why. The rule is the rule. It is not arbitrary to specific people that may qualify and the temptation to copy cat the situation is very real. Again, I didn't think that you, personally were looking for ways around it...you were just curious. I'm just saying that publishing that information has the potential to cause way more problems then it solves. Hope that helps.

This is the wrong thread for this question, because if anybody attempts to answer it, someone else will disagree with them, and the thread will quickly get derailed into another pointless debate, which the OP specifically did not want.

Apparently any differing opinions are not welcome in your presence. If one did not see the potential problem with the thread it would never have been discussed.

 

[mom2rtk]

I fail to see how this is beyond your control. You control when you go to lunch. You control when you pull the fastpass that has a stated return time on it. Why should Disney give you a Fastpass exception because of your choices that made you miss your Fastpass window. Disney didnt make you miss your return time. YOUR choices did.

Again, I really hope Disney is strict with their enforcement and will not give out too many fastpass exceptions, otherwise abuse will run rampant.

Have you BEEN to CP lately? Seating generally takes a long time. And many times I have been stuck waiting for a check. NOTE TO ALL: When doing a buffet, ALWAYS ask for the check FAR in advance, as this has been an issue for us at many such locations. This is SOP for us at all buffets now.

Another issue beyond their control is how long it takes for the characters to come around. If you pay the big bucks for a character meal, you really should not feel like you need to leave before all the characters make it to your table.

 

[mesaboy2]

Have you BEEN to CP lately? Seating generally takes a long time. And many times I have been stuck waiting for a check. NOTE TO ALL: When doing a buffet, ALWAYS ask for the check FAR in advance, as this has been an issue for us at many such locations. This is SOP for us at all buffets now.

Another issue beyond their control is how long it takes for the characters to come around. If you pay the big bucks for a character meal, you really should not feel like you need to leave before all the characters make it to your table.

But you should have planned for all of those eventualities, don't you know? This poster sounds eerily familiar....