Foster child adoption rules

[PaulaSB12]

I was sent a link to this web page and it got me wondering

https://www.facebook.com/secondchanceadoptions

what are the rules when children in foster care program are adopted? Is it really legal to offer a child up for a second adoption after being adopted from foster care?
"Caleb" is a 9 year old boy who was adopted from the foster care system. Caleb is an energetic, active young boy who is in need of a new adoptive home. Will you help us by sharing this to your Facebook page? We are only able to place these children with the help of our Facebook friends!

This would be a legal adoption with an adoption agency and is not a "re-homing" of a child.

Click "like" on this page www.facebook.com/secondchanceadoptions
to receive future notices when new children are added or placed. If anyone makes negative comments about this child’s family, you will be banned from future access to this page.

Caleb loves playing golf, riding his bike, camping, playing with Legos, fishing and reading. He also likes playing with his friends. He gets a lot of invitations to parties because he is very well liked. He is intelligent and does well in school. He does not have an IEP because he does so well in school. Academically, he does well in all his subjects.

Caleb has been in a large family with 6 siblings “stair-stepped” in age above him. All his siblings are also adopted except for one 4 year old boy who is a biological son of the family.

His current parents are looking to place him with a family with either no children or no more than one other child. They would like Caleb to be the youngest child in the family. The family should have an active lifestyle so they can keep up with Caleb.
This is a place with children being put up for second adoption so what are the legalities of this?

 

[ronandannette]

I was sent a link to this web page and it got me wondering

https://www.facebook.com/secondchanceadoptions

what are the rules when children in foster care program are adopted? Is it really legal to offer a child up for a second adoption after being adopted from foster care?
"Caleb" is a 9 year old boy who was adopted from the foster care system. Caleb is an energetic, active young boy who is in need of a new adoptive home. Will you help us by sharing this to your Facebook page? We are only able to place these children with the help of our Facebook friends!

This would be a legal adoption with an adoption agency and is not a "re-homing" of a child.

Click "like" on this page www.facebook.com/secondchanceadoptions
to receive future notices when new children are added or placed. If anyone makes negative comments about this child’s family, you will be banned from future access to this page.

Caleb loves playing golf, riding his bike, camping, playing with Legos, fishing and reading. He also likes playing with his friends. He gets a lot of invitations to parties because he is very well liked. He is intelligent and does well in school. He does not have an IEP because he does so well in school. Academically, he does well in all his subjects.

Caleb has been in a large family with 6 siblings “stair-stepped” in age above him. All his siblings are also adopted except for one 4 year old boy who is a biological son of the family.

His current parents are looking to place him with a family with either no children or no more than one other child. They would like Caleb to be the youngest child in the family. The family should have an active lifestyle so they can keep up with Caleb.
This is a place with children being put up for second adoption so what are the legalities of this?

The legalities? What are you trying to get at here. Paula? Curious that someone would send you a link like that - don't they know your feelings on adoption? Legally speaking, any parents (family of origin or adopted) can waive their parental rights and release a child for adoption. An individual or couple, once examined and deemed elegible by government authorities can apply to become the legal parents of that child through adoption.

The cases on the web link you posted are heart-breaking examples where children have been so badly "damaged" during their early lives (NOT by their adoptive families) that they are unable to integrate into their adoptive families safely. These issues can be very deep-seated and the seriousness not comprehended until an initial placement fails. It is apparently most common in cases of foreign adoptions where the children have lived through untold horrors, often while in institutional care. In the example of the little girl on the front page, she is clearly a danger to the other children and pets in the home. Very, very sad and my prayers go out to everyone involved.

 

[canadianjovigirl]

Adoption break downs happen so those adopted children are placed back into care in hopes of trying to once again find them a forever family. Its a sad situation, but one we are precariously walking with our adopted son. Placing him back in the system is not an option for us at this time as he is not a threat to us or the other kids in the home in a physical way - but we are hoping to have social workers involved with us once again to try to get him the help needed as his needs at this point are beyond are ability to help with. Sadly it seems like there are more services available to kids in care here then those who aren't unless you have $375/day for a 90 day intense stabilization program and then the programs after that are the same cost just ongoing in length.

Please don't judge the parents or the kids as unless you are close to the situation you have no idea what kind of struggles or heartache they have gone thru or are going thru.

 

[ronandannette]

Adoption break downs happen so those adopted children are placed back into care in hopes of trying to once again find them a forever family. Its a sad situation, but one we are precariously walking with our adopted son. Placing him back in the system is not an option for us at this time as he is not a threat to us or the other kids in the home in a physical way - but we are hoping to have social workers involved with us once again to try to get him the help needed as his needs at this point are beyond are ability to help with. Sadly it seems like there are more services available to kids in care here then those who aren't unless you have $375/day for a 90 day intense stabilization program and then the programs after that are the same cost just ongoing in length.

Please don't judge the parents or the kids as unless you are close to the situation you have no idea what kind of struggles or heartache they have gone thru or are going thru.

No words, just

 

[kmb584]

Are you asking if it's legal to place an already adopted child up for adoption? Yes, it is.

 

[NHdisneylover]

Why would it be illegal to place an already adopted child up for adoption?

Obviously, the ideal is that no child already in a home ever has a reason to leave, or put back up for adoption. However, making it illegal to relinquish a child (for biological or adoptive parents) really only puts children at risk; isn't it MUCH better to work with an agency and find a new home for a child who a parent simply cannot handle (for whatever reason) than for the parent to reach a breaking point? If parents have no other options ,that is a time when abuse neglect or abandonment can happen.

 

[PaulaSB12]

What I am saying is advertising a child for adoption via facebook like this how is that legal? they are not going through offical channels just facebook.

 

[NHdisneylover]

What I am saying is advertising a child for adoption via facebook like this how is that legal? they are not going through offical channels just facebook.

They are not only on facebook. It took about 10 seconds on google to find their official webpage:
http://www.wiaa.org/secondchance.htm

I guess like most other companies, they get the word out on whatever media they think will help. I do not see facebook as any better or worse than news reports, etc.
Growing up, there was a segment every Wednesday on the local news called "Wednesdays Child" that profiled a local, usually older, child that was hoping to be adopted.

(ETA, which is not to say that I know enough about the agency to know if I find htem particularly ethical or not, but using facebook as a means to get word out does not strike me as bad or illegal in any way).

 

[mom2rtk]

Growing up, there was a segment every Wednesday on the local news called "Wednesdays Child" that profiled a local, usually older, child that was hoping to be adopted.

Same thing here. It really seems like the 21st century version of that. I say anything that facilitates getting a child to the right forever home is all good.

I'm sure once a match is made, they follow the adoption laws.

 

[Acklander]

What I am saying is advertising a child for adoption via facebook like this how is that legal? they are not going through offical channels just facebook.

I'm sure there is more to it than just answering an ad on Facebook. When my sister and her partner adopted, the initially got in touch with an agency after seeing one of the Wednesday child segments on the news. From there they went through all the hoops and about a year later finally found the perfect match for their family.

 

[EMom]

Are you hoping they are doing something illegal so that you can yak about how awful, twisted and evil adoptive parents are?

 

[Hrhpd]

What I am saying is advertising a child for adoption via facebook like this how is that legal? they are not going through offical channels just facebook.

If you actually read the child's description, it tells you that a legal adoption must take place, what kind of home study you need to have, etc.

They are not giving children away via facebook. Sorry, but no fodder there.

 

[EMode]

What I am saying is advertising a child for adoption via facebook like this how is that legal? they are not going through offical channels just facebook.

This was in your OP

This would be a legal adoption with an adoption agency and is not a "re-homing" of a child

 

[Nennie]

I have a friend who adopted 3 brothers from the foster-care system. They all had RAD, but unfortunately, the youngest brother was violent, making threats, etc. He was ultimately placed with another family. It was very difficult for her, especially since she has the brothers, but it worked out for the best for everyone involved.

 

[Gracie09]

If you actually read the child's description, it tells you that a legal adoption must take place, what kind of home study you need to have, etc. They are not giving children away via facebook. Sorry, but no fodder there.

Exactly. I am actually on a email list for foreign (non-us) children that need homes and have special needs so they won't be adopted in their home country. Each child has a list of items that must be completed prior to you even being considered for a child. And there is more after you are chosen as a potential home.

 

[Coonhound]

Are you hoping they are doing something illegal so that you can yak about how awful, twisted and evil adoptive parents are?

Wow, what an interesting assumption! Your assumption says more about you and your issues than it does about the OP.

Adoption break downs happen so those adopted children are placed back into care in hopes of trying to once again find them a forever family. Its a sad situation, but one we are precariously walking with our adopted son. Placing him back in the system is not an option for us at this time as he is not a threat to us or the other kids in the home in a physical way - but we are hoping to have social workers involved with us once again to try to get him the help needed as his needs at this point are beyond are ability to help with. Sadly it seems like there are more services available to kids in care here then those who aren't unless you have $375/day for a 90 day intense stabilization program and then the programs after that are the same cost just ongoing in length.

Please don't judge the parents or the kids as unless you are close to the situation you have no idea what kind of struggles or heartache they have gone thru or are going thru.

Actually, there ARE groups working against the "re-homing" of adopted children.
When it is all done as a legal adoption, there's no problem.
But too many times it is done as a shady deal where children basically are given away to the first person that agrees to take them, and THAT is what the groups are working against, what basically amounts of child trafficking. I saw one of the groups on the news talking about it.

 

[Gracie09]

Wow, what an interesting assumption! Your assumption says more about you and your issues than it does about the OP.

Considering what the op has said about all adoptive parents in the past it's not really a stretch to say she was hoping it was illegal.

 

[Coonhound]

Considering what the op has said about all adoptive parents in the past it's not really a stretch to say she was hoping it was illegal.

Well, it often is done illegally. As I said I saw this on the news, a group working against the re-homing of children through the internet- because the majority of the cases the group had seen, it wasn't legal and the children were being taken to the first person who said they'd take them, and the group said this ends up being glorified child trafficking. This is not all cases, but, it was enough to make up a whole news show.

 

[robinb]

I don't see the big deal. These kids need new homes and I think it's wonderful that they are facilitating adoptions for them. Apparently some state laws do not allow this since they say "Due to the state laws, we are not able to place him in NY, CO, IL, CT, MA, or DE." on every adoption.

 

[NHdisneylover]

Wow, what an interesting assumption! Your assumption says more about you and your issues than it does about the OP.

The OP has a long history of very negative attitudes towards adoption on these boards.