Foster care and finances

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Does anybody know if people can actually make money or live off of the subsidies they get for being a foster parent? Is there some sort of income requirement to become one? Do they have to prove that they've spent the money strictly for the kids?

(not that I'm in any way thinking of doing this -- I've just heard some things where I lived that make me wonder how they get away with it)
 
I think people do sometimes do it for profit, which sucks if they don't provide a good home as well. My daughter had a friend in foster care. The entire family would drive through McDonalds, then when Tasia asked to order something too, they would tell her that her stipend didn't cover fast food. That's fine, but then don't get restaurant food for anyone rather than exclude a kid. :mad:
 
Foster care rules, regulations and oversight vary a great deal by location. The foster parents I know spend tons of their own money on top of the subsidies on the kids.

But you read some news stories about some foster parents and it just breaks your heart for the kids.
 
In Michigan, foster parents receive:

$199.36 bi-weekly for children under 12 & $107 twice a year for clothes
$246.26 bi-weekly for children 13-18 & $122 twice a year for clothes

They also get $25 a year per child for Christmas.

Not really a money maker as far as I can tell. There is also a limit to how many children a family can foster at a time.
 

In CT there are stipends for the kids' needs (food, daycare, clothes) and then the parents receive a monthly amount as well. From my understanding the money the parents receive do not have to be used towards the kids and it is a substantial amount. (I don't think it is enough to live off of though).

Like all things in life there are good foster parents and bad foster parents. I have met both kinds. There are some who do it for the money but I have to imagine that it is a small amount because a lot of these kids have emotional and behavioral problems that would not be "worth it" to these types of people who do it just for the money.
 
Now, I don't know this for a fact, but I have heard that in my area foster families receive roughly $1300 a month, WIC and food stamps, also medical assistance and 100% college tuition to instate school for each foster child. I actually know someone who over the past 20 years has taken in foster children and then adopted them as they reached a certain age- same benefits once adopted- that way they make room for more foster children. I think she told me that right now she has 10 children ages 2-30. Not all of them live with her but none are biological. She just recently had a 7 bedroom 4 bath house built, owns 4 cars including a Trailblazer, Escalade SUV, Escalade truck, and a Suburban, all of them less than 3 years old. :rolleyes: You tell me if she isn't using the foster system as a means of a paycheck.
 
I am not sure what is meant by using the state funds strictly on the child. The funds can be used for anything, it is the same as child support. The money goes into the household to be used on household expenses. You wouldn't need to account for the expenses just because you have to pay for housing/electricity/rent, activities fees, shoes, school supplies and the like and someone can easily bring in the bills and say it went here. Foster children here do get medicaid. Basically, the state is paying child support since they decided to (and with good reason one would hope) remove the child from their biological parents. Sure there are good foster parents and there are some really rotten ones. I am not a foster parent for the record, just know the system here.
 
My late step-grandmother used to be a foster mother.

From the terrible stories I have heard, yes, you can make LOTS of money.

My late-grandmother was just so mean. She always had foster kids, and she fed them the most simple meals (like spaghetti noodles and sauce, rice and beans, bread and butter with tomato soup, etc.) every day, bought them Goodwill clothes (not that THAT is really bad per se), and made them do all of the chores around the house while they were with her. She made a fortune off of those poor kids, and spent a small fraction on the actual kids. :sad1:
 
I was just wondering about it. This family I know who has kids, doesn't seem to want them, but neither the mom or dad works. I can't imagine having 4 small children in the house on that kind of income!
 
No, it is a non-profit job LOL. If you treat the kids as your own (travel, activities, pre-school etc), you will be in the hole.

The supplement is nice but, don't expect to get rich.

I adopted both of my foster children so, it was an amazing experience for us. I will say, they people who are making money....should not be foster parents. $35.00 for a clothing allowance does not go to far.
 
I think people do sometimes do it for profit, which sucks if they don't provide a good home as well. My daughter had a friend in foster care. The entire family would drive through McDonalds, then when Tasia asked to order something too, they would tell her that her stipend didn't cover fast food. That's fine, but then don't get restaurant food for anyone rather than exclude a kid. :mad:

:sad1: Disgusting.....I would report them. There is no benefit for that young girl to be in there care.
 
the payment rate varies from state to state, and it differs if it's a straight foster care parent or if the home is designated a "group home".

when i supervised an fc unit i was amazed to learn how little the majority of foster parents received.

in california the state sets the rate and it's roughly based on what a person would receive for a child on straight public assistance. back then it was around $320 per month, it's not a whole lot more now (the amount people recive for public assistance has gone down over the years and then did'nt get cola's for a long time). foster kids did'nt get food stamps unless the foster family also met the eligibility criteria-of the thousands of cases in my unit i think we had less than 5 receiving food stamps. i don't know if they got wic b/c that was administered by another agency. they got medicaid which was good, except some fp's found out pretty fast that not all doctors accept it and they might have to put in some significant travel time to get the kiddos to the doctors that did-and medicaid does'nt pay for otc stuff, so any medical/dental items of need not covered by medicaid was expected to come out of the monthly payment.

we did clothing allowance once per year-$200, and whoever had the child at that point got the allowance.

a person might get a higher rate if there were "dtp" issues (difficulty to place). there were special extra monies if kids could'nt toilet themselves, care for their own hygene, and things like that but it was'nt astrinomical money (esp. when you consider the tasks you had to be doing for the child in order for them to qualify for it).

fc is paid on a daily rate, not a monthly-and it's paid after the fact. so let's say a child comes into a foster home with no clothing, no hygene items-and in the case of a non toileting child-no diapers. the foster parent has to get all the items for their needs, and then provide for their housing, food, transportation... then say the child is moved to a new home 15 days later (can be a variety of reasons none of which have to do with the child or fp). the foster parent has put out likely hundreds of dollars but they will only be paid for the 15 days the child was there (day of arrival through the day before departure), and they won't get that until the month after that child was there, those checks were often less than $175.00. we had lots of foster parents realize that not only were they never going to break even, they spent way more than the small amount the state allowed to be paid.


as for tuition for college-i'm surprised any state would cover this. fc traditionaly ends when a child turns 18, so the fc kid (now legaly an adult) loses all their eligibility to any funds which means allot of them while still in high school end up homeless and end up dropping out. the independant living programs that some regions have done a good job implementing has helped to some extent, but with the current economy i have to imagine it's even tougher now for these kids :sad2:

as far as any extras-they could ask for a campership referral, and if some camps had donated slots we might be able to get a child in for a week during the summer (thousands of applicants, handful of slots). target used to donate some backpacks with school supplies but those were generaly gone by the end of september (donated at the begining of september each year). no special funds for christmas-they could see if they could get the child listed with toys for tots or those giving tree things.
 
Barkley,

I had heard that my state offered college scholrships, and I had at one time thought about possibly fostering, so I googled it. It seems my state (and some others) offers the cost of attendance to children who are ADOPTED from foster care. What the heck! What are these poor unadopted foster kids supposed to do once they turn 18? I know I would have had a very tough time supporting myself at that age, and if one has to work two or three jobs just to support oneself, that pretty much precludes college. I found several other states that offer "some" help to "some" kids, but it seems like these kids have a zillion strikes against them when they age out of the system.

So, now I'm off to research if there are groups that help these aged out kids in my state. For various reasons, I can't foster right now, but maybe I can help these older kids out financially or otherwise. How heartbreaking and sad for these children.:sad1:
 
My db & his wife adopted 5 kids out of fc and altho they never talk about what kind of $$$ they still get, he did mention it once that all 5 kids will get a free college education from a state school here in MA...??? Again, he doesn't talk about it and I don't ask but he did say that at one time.

Jill
 
Can you live off a child care subsidy, No. Massachusetts foster mom here. The stipend is $17.98 per day. and three yearly clothing allowances of around $188.00. I have mine in dance, cheering, softball, and I also pay a home tutor 4 hrs a week. The college tuition agreement was something I had to fight for because the state doesn't feel it is necessary for a child to go to college anymore :( The payment will be tuition only. At Salem State, the tuition is less than $40.00 per credit, but the fees not included in the state paid tuition are $245.00 per credit. Maybe this will be different when she attends because I do see this question on the FASFA, but I am not sure. I know that I would not sign the "guardianship contract" until they included at least tuition. Oh, and the reason I have not adopted her is because if I did, she would no longer be eligible for Mass Health, and thus the therapy she is also entitled too.

I did also get daycare when she was younger and I worked full time, however, her emotional issues were such that I could not keep that job, and I no longer needed the daycare.

I try to save one half of the money she receives monthly so that she will have a nest egg when she is older. This is not always possible, but I still try.
 
Can you live off a child care subsidy, No. Massachusetts foster mom here. The stipend is $17.98 per day. and three yearly clothing allowances of around $188.00. I

I've placed kids in foster care through my job as a juvenile probation officer. We (the county/state) get billed by the agencies between $75 to $120 A DAY for those placements, depending on if it's regular foster care, special needs care, or therapeutic care. To me, it's inane that the foster parents only get a teeny portion of what the agency charges us.

To those foster parents who care and do great things with our kids, thank you. :worship:

I could tell you stories about bad homes, but fortunately, I don't have to use those homes any longer.
 
foster mom here
we got a raise at the beginning of Jan to 20.57 a day
my friend in another state only get 14.50 a day
if you can treat a child the way they should be treated (like a member of your family) you do not make any money off of foster care
we got a sibling group of 4 kids with nothing in oct so I had to go out and buy clothes, boots, coats and food because they were starving
we don't get clothes paid for here so it was all out of pocket and they are so far behind on payments we didn't get paid till after the new yr
we go in the hole every time we get a new placement ;)
 
DH and I would love to have a foster child. However, we would treat the child as our own and we simply can not afford another child at this time. I sure wish we could, though.
 
Here there are two types of foster care "regular" foster care, in which you get a stipend that covers the day to day cost of caring for an extra child and comes with things like medicaid, WIC, daycare subsidy, and free lunch at school. "Regular" foster care has a level system where you get slightly more if the child is older, or has special needs that you can demonstrate cost more money (e.g. child needs special shoes to fit their orthotics, and requires you to buy gas to drive him to therapy a few times a week, and eats only expensive gluten free food -- so they give you a few extra dollars).

There's also "therapeutic" foster care, where the state has decided that the child needs a parent available to them at all times, and essentially pays you a salary (a very small salary) to stay home. In that case you can use the money to do things like keep a roof over your head. I really don't think you could live on a therapeutic foster care salary, maybe if you had 6 kids but I don't think they'd approve that because these are kids who need constant attention. You can't work outside the home and get therapeutic rate, or if you're part of a couple you can't both work (I think they might allow a couple where both worked 20 hours opposite each other for example).
 
I know "families" like you talk about. It really bothers me. Here the families do get an amount that I think makes it attractive to do it for the wrong reasons.

We had my step-nephew as a foster care placement for about 3 months when he was 6 weeks old. He had coverage through Medicaid and received WIC as well. The monthly stipend was $975 per month and any child care needs were fully covered as well.

I think foster parents are amazing people. I do believe they should receive assistance. I do not think it should be a money making opportunity though.
 




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