Former Reaganite Calls for Impeachment

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tubaman said:
Sometimes I wish these people would climb out of the tree they're protecting and join the real world.

I supported Bush in 00 and 04. And if I could I would vote for him. :)


I climbed down the tree last week. Yup, Bush is still a screw up for a president. :confused3 Climbed right back up :rotfl2:
 
I climbed down the tree last week. Yup, Bush is still a screw up for a president. Climbed right back up

I might hate you for that, but I coulnd't help but laugh.

Is there a smiley for the middle finger?
 
tubaman said:
I might hate you for that, but I coulnd't help but laugh.

Is there a smiley for the middle finger?


Just use a mad Bush ;)

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tiggersmom2 said:
Do you really believe there would have been peace in the Clinton years if Reagan had not brought down the Soviet Union and brought the United States out of an economic tailspin?

So please tell me how Reagan "brought down the Soviet Union"
(I LOVE fairy tales)

If a period of record budget deficits, economic decline, and widening income gaps between rich and poor are your idea of bringing the country out of an economic tailspin, then you're spot on. Oh and I'll have whatever it is you're smoking too.
 

tubaman said:
Sometimes I wish these people would climb out of the tree they're protecting and join the real world.

I supported Bush in 00 and 04. And if I could I would vote for him. :)

Hillary SUX!!!!!!!!!!!​

Please tell us why.
 
SoonerKate said:
Funny how Bush has been in office for an entire term plus, yet everything is still entirely Clinton's fault. Let me guess -- Tom DeLay's unethical behavior is Clinton's fault, too? Abortion rates are rising since Bush has been in office, despite an almost 18% decline during the Clinton administration? Must be Clinton's fault! Federal government cuts veteran's benefits during wartime? Man, must be that tax-and-spend liberal Clinton again.
This is good.
Oh, for the good ol' days of only having to worry about Clinton's "I did not have sex with that woman" lie again! How trivial that seems now...
Bill, come back! Come back!
 
Lebjwb said:
So please tell me how Reagan "brought down the Soviet Union"
(I LOVE fairy tales)

If a period of record budget deficits, economic decline, and widening income gaps between rich and poor are your idea of bringing the country out of an economic tailspin, then you're spot on. Oh and I'll have whatever it is you're smoking too.


Why not read your history Lebshi.......I'm not wasting my time on you, all you can do is hurl insults and hatred. Better go get you some of that champagne. :banana:
 
tubaman said:
Sometimes I wish these people would climb out of the tree they're protecting and join the real world.

I supported Bush in 00 and 04. And if I could I would vote for him. :)

Hillary SUX!!!!!!!!!!!​


when did hillary get in on this
and why does she suck and what did she do ????
 
tiggersmom2 said:
Do you really believe there would have been peace in the Clinton years if Reagan had not brought down the Soviet Union and brought the United States out of an economic tailspin?

Reagan brought us out of an economic tailspin?:rotfl2:


Hillary SUX!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm impressed....:rolleyes:

I prefer to watch the implosion from a safe distance.
 
tubaman said:
Sometimes I wish these people would climb out of the tree they're protecting and join the real world.

I supported Bush in 00 and 04. And if I could I would vote for him. :)

Hillary SUX!!!!!!!!!!!​

I can't climb out of my tree....He cut it down. :guilty: No pickin' on the trees, us Oregonians love our trees. ;)

Now what does "sux" mean, I don't believe I've ever seen that word in the dictionary? I do know that it is the an acronymn for Succhinylcholine which is a depolarizing neuromuscular blocking drug and the airport code for Sioux City, IA. ;)
 
tiggersmom2 said:
Why not read your history Lebshi.......I'm not wasting my time on you, all you can do is hurl insults and hatred. Better go get you some of that champagne. :banana:

I have read my history and I am curious as to why you think so as well. Given the many different factors that went into the collapse of the Soviet Union, I have always wondered why Reagan seems to get the credit. So, maybe you can explain?
 
I can't climb out of my tree....He cut it down. No pickin' on the trees, us Oregonians love our trees.

Now what does "sux" mean, I don't believe I've ever seen that word in the dictionary? I do know that it is the an acronymn for Succhinylcholine which is a depolarizing neuromuscular blocking drug and the airport code for Sioux City, IA.

Well the stump of the tree is enough to hug.

You think you're all smart debating eh? Well considering the fact I'm only 14 might bring you self asteam(sp).

I can't climb out of my tree....He cut it down.

To bad you didn't come down with it.
 
tubaman said:
Well the stump of the tree is enough to hug.

You think you're all smart debating eh? Well considering the fact I'm only 14 might bring you self asteam(sp).



To bad you didn't come down with it.

Young man respect your elders! :teeth:
 
PoohnPglet said:
I have read my history and I am curious as to why you think so as well. Given the many different factors that went into the collapse of the Soviet Union, I have always wondered why Reagan seems to get the credit. So, maybe you can explain?

interesting with the unfortunate passing of the pope
many said he did more than anyone to bring down communism
 
PoohnPglet said:
I have read my history and I am curious as to why you think so as well. Given the many different factors that went into the collapse of the Soviet Union, I have always wondered why Reagan seems to get the credit. So, maybe you can explain?


Here is an excerpt from an article by Joe Mariani, maybe it will shed some light for you.

.....He (Reagan) increased our military budget, forcing the USSR to increase its own military spending to match. In fact, given the 28.3% increase in the Gross Domestic Product during the 1980's, the overall increase in military spending as a percentage of the GDP only increased by .6% during Reagan's term, though it nearly doubled in dollar amount from $158 billion to $304 billion (in 1987 dollars). To the Soviet economy, however, a drastic increase in spending was unsustainable, and Reagan's proposed anti-ballistic missile defense system (Strategic Defense Initiative) which was a death-blow. The USSR could never hope to match it. The moment that Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev insisted that SDI research be stopped at the summit in Reykjavik, and Reagan walked away from the table, the Soviet Union was doomed. The critics may have a point--if we had just waited another fifty or a hundred years, the Soviet Union may well have suffered an economic collapse. At what cost? During that time billions of people would have lived out their lives in fear and virtual slavery, and no one can tell how many would have died in its death throes. No collapsing government has ever gone quietly onto ''the ash heap of history'' of its own volition.

And Communist Russia needed to be defeated--totalitarian governments which rob their citizens of life, liberty, and the freedom to pursue happiness are the antithesis of what America is all about. We are by nature--or ought to be--opposed to such regimes.

Though there were and still are other oppressive governments in the world, Ronald Reagan defeated the chief of them all, the one that funded and fueled so many others. ..............
 
peachgirl said:
Reagan brought us out of an economic tailspin?:rotfl2:


I guess you were a little kid then and don't remeber a certain peanut farmer who bacame a president and tried his best to ruin the country in 4 years. Do you remember 18-24% interest rates?????? Double digit unemployment??? LOOOOONNNNGGGG gas lines and even/odd days to fill up your tank with gas? Maybe read some books. During his administartion revenues into the governemnt more than doubled in his 8 years in office. Inflation was controlled interst rates went waaaay down (Bush 43 got rates even lower) and yes we had a defecit. That is why he wanted a line item veto and should be given to all presidents to cut this spending that we have. I do agree that Bush 43 is spending way too much and should stop this. I would rather have my president get a evil dictator out of power who slaughteredclose to 500,000 poeple than ignore the problem like YES Clinton did in Rwanda. You can all say he lied but the UN authorized force many times to get him out of power. It was Saddam's responsibilty to show that he got rid of ALL weapons of mass distruction. I know we never found them but where did they go?? He used them to kill the Kurds right! So stop this impeachment talk it makes everyone sick!! 51% of Americans did vote for him more than either time voted for Clinton. During 40 plus years of being in the minority we never even complained half as much as the garbage that is going on right now. The majority of Americans want this let us have it!! If you want to take your ball and go home nobody is stopping you people. :wave2: :wave2: :wave2:
 
A reality check on the Reagan years...

The economy...
Reagan pursued policies that were short-sighted, reckless and, for many, hurtful. His economic legacy is one of deplorable disregard for the consequences of his actions, and the ramifications of Reagan's decisions remain with us to this day.

In 1981, shortly after taking office, Reagan lamented "runaway deficits" that were then approaching $80 billion, or about 2.5 percent of gross domestic product. Within only two years, however, his policies had succeeded in enlarging the deficit to more than $200 billion, or 6 percent of GDP.

The poor....

When homelessness first became a national issue, however, the Reagan administration all but turned a blind eye to the problem. Federal expenditures for low-cost housing plunged during Reagan's watch from $32 billion in 1981 to just $7 billion in 1987.

Reagan's position on the homeless??

Reagan was asked in a 1988 interview, shortly before Christmas, what he thought of the homeless people sleeping just across the street from the White House in Lafayette Park.

"There are always going to be people," he replied. "They make it their own choice for staying out there."

His pitiful and shameful record on AIDS?

Reagan famously did not utter the word AIDS in public until 1987. He did precious little to arrest the spread of HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, in the early 1980s, and limited the amount of official resources dedicated to what was perceived by his administration as an affliction exclusively of the gay community.
 
peachgirl said:
A reality check on the Reagan years...

The economy...




The poor....



Reagan's position on the homeless??



His pitiful and shameful record on AIDS?

I think this will SLAM DUNK your assertion that he did nothing for AIDS....

Reagan and AIDS By: Joe Mariani

They want to paint a picture of a President who ''ignored'' AIDS, started wars for fun, and just happened to be in the White House when the Soviet Union collapsed of its own accord. It's a false portrait.

The whine that ''President Reagan ignored AIDS'' is simply ridiculous. AIDS was not identified until 1981, and Reagan's government spent $5.7 billion on AIDS research, beginning in 1983. In 1988 - the last year he was in office -- there were only 32,311 cases of AIDS diagnosed in the US, and a drug had already been approved that held the promise of treatment. By way of comparison, there were over 62,000 cases of diabetes diagnosed in the United States that same year, yet no outcry about this was heard from the Left then or now.

It amazes me that Liberals don't try to blame Reagan (or current President Bush, for that matter) for not halting the scourge of diabetes, a disease which has killed more people than AIDS. It's not about lives, of course, but lifestyle. Liberals have been trying to turn AIDS into a ''romantic disease'' (no pun intended, of course), much like consumption (tuberculosis) in the 19th Century. Unfortunately, AIDS is often spread by the deliberate actions of the infected. There's no romanticizing that, and no drug can stop it.
 
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