For you smokers out there......

[SueM in MN]

Originally posted by ReneeQ
Is there an OFFICIAL answer on this? Is smoking allowed on the balcony of a non-smoking villa? We are going back in January, our first stay at VWL. There will be six of us in a non-smoking (hopefully!) 2 Bedroom. My mother and brother smoke. I am TOTALLY prepared to tell them NO smoking allowed, including the balcony, if that is the rule. I would LIKE that to be the rule.

Also, is there a smoking "area" anywhere at VWL? If I tell them no smoking on the balcony, is there anywhere else for them to go that is out of the way?

Thanks!

I think one of the problems is that some CMs tell people what they want to hear. If a smoker asks, "can I smoke on the balcony" they might be told "yeah, go ahead, just don't smoke in the room." If I say I am sensitive to smoke and ask if smoking on the baclonies is allowed, I'v been told that the designation of smoking/non-smoking is for the whole unit, including the balcony.

 

[Sammie]

I know front desk personnel tells smokers that get a NS room they can smoke on the balcony as I have witnessed it personally at check in.

I don't like it, but I prefer it to smokers using a NS room to smoke in and we have gotten a few of those. Then you have no way to escape it.

At least on the balcony you can go back in. Not the best choice but better than the room being smokey.

And Sue is very correct, they will tell you what they think you want to hear.

 

[Beca]

I would love to know the "official" policy as well. I certainly think smokers should have the right to smoke if they wish...but, only if it can be assured that no one will have to smell their smoke. It's just courtesy!!!



Beca

 

[MDonley]

I'd like to see a NS room mean non-smoking inclucing the balcony. I have a sister that doesn't smoke in her house (goes outside) and her house still smells like smoke from her clothing. I, too, have asthma and use a CPAP to sleep. She's found the perfect way to keep family away. Maybe DVC can take the hint.

 

[SnowWitch]

As far as are smoking and non-smoking rooms together. As the BWV's all smoking roomsare are on the second floor so anyone above them gets to smell it because smoke rises.

Last year friends joined us on a Dec trip, I booked a smoking room and asked that they smoke on the balcony not in the unit. I'm a former smoker and I have been told we are the worst non-smokers. Anyway, my friends were out smoking on the balcony of a smoking unit when guests from a balcony above ours started verbally assaulting them about the smoke. To make a long story short I called the front desk and they were never heard from again.

Yes smoke is irritating but putting smoking units on the second floor is just plain stupid!!!!!!!

 

[eva]

SnowWitch, I kind of thought the same thing. If the smoking rooms are all on lower floors then the smoke would rise up to non-smoking rooms. I don't think there is a good answer for that. A lot of people like top floor rooms for the view. If they made the top floor all smoking units people would probably complain about that too.

 

[shelbyjosh]

That is awful! How unfortunate that you had to get a whiff of that nasty stench. My DD has asthma and if we were in the area of n/s rooms and somebody was smoking on the balcony I would make sure to call the front desk. Might as well stay in a smoking unit if you have to smell that crap. I would be putting up my own STINK!

 

[goofy4tink]

At BWV last August we had smokers on the balconies beside us and below us to the left. We don't smoke and I get all stuffed up with smokers around. So, even tho we had a non-smoking room, there were a lot of times we couldn't use the balcony because someone was smoking in the area.

 

[OneMoreTry]

There aren't enough CMs to keep smokers from smoking on balconies and flicking cigarettes out car windows and emptying ashtrays into parking lots.

A lovely lot they can be sometimes. ("Some of my best friends are smokers" though.)

But then many non-smokers find ways to be rude, too. I think Disney does a pretty good job dealing with rude human behavior. They just can't stop it.

 

[d-r]

I'm never really clear about how smoking on the balcony is that much different from somebody smoking outside. At okw, somebody could be smoking a cigar on the golf course right outside a unit, or somebody could be smoking on the boardwalk right outside a unit, or smoking on the sidewalks that go around beach club villas. At wlv, it is a little more remote, the only place somebody could do that is at the pool area for the most part. But mostly, outside is outside it seems to me.

 

[Scoootch]

Originally posted by Eva -- SnowWitch, I kind of thought the same thing. If the smoking rooms are all on lower floors then the smoke would rise up to non-smoking rooms. I don't think there is a good answer for that. A lot of people like top floor rooms for the view. If they made the top floor all smoking units people would probably complain about that too.

Why not group the rooms by section somehow then - maybe a block of say 12 rooms from left to right (don't quote my # of rooms just saying any # to get my idea out there) and all floors be smoking and then the next set of rooms from the next section from left to right all floors be non-smoking? KWIM?? Maybe having the middle section between them be smoking optional or something so as to keep those who have to definitly be away from the smoke far from the smokers and those who have this problem of wanting the N/S unit but have smokers with them, can have those smokers go out on the balcony's without offending anyone??

It's not perfect, but couldn't that work better than having smoke rising up to offend the non-smoking rooms from below?

Then of course they'd actually have to implement this somehow but wouldn't that make at least a little more sense? I agree that having a smoking unit right below a non-smoking unit is just plain dumb

 

[KristiKelly]

Not DVC but, we were @ WDW a few weeks ago staying @ the Poly. The first room we were in for 3 nights. It smelled of smoke, not bad, but still there. For the remaining 4 nights we switched (upgraded to lagoon to give DD4 the castle view) worth the extra $60 a night in every way. We were put in the Tahiti building, a little farther away from the main building but the building was a non-smoking building which I'm assuming would extend to the balcony. It always smelled very fresh & clean with no sign of smoke anywhere. In addition to that we had a great view of the castle, space mountain, Grd. Floridian, monorail, ferries going to & from Trans. center. Sorry, I know I've drifted a little off topic but I would like to see them offer non-smoking buildings.

 

[floridafam]

DVC needs to have one clear policy on this issue and stick to it.

Will it ever be all NS? I doubt it but they could at least group the rooms together.

I would also like to see no smoking at the pool. I hate sittting around the pool at Vero, have kids playing everywhere and then someone lights up a sticky cigarette or cigar. YUCK!

 

[Scoootch]

Well, they do already do that in the resorts such as the Poly like you mentioned and the GF,OKW basically the resorts that have separte guest buildings. Problem is the other resorts such as VWL,BCV's and BWV's they're already built and they really need a better solution than what they've got now

originally posted by d-r --- I'm never really clear about how smoking on the balcony is that much different from somebody smoking outside. At okw, somebody could be smoking a cigar on the golf course right outside a unit, or somebody could be smoking on the boardwalk right outside a unit, or smoking on the sidewalks that go around beach club villas. At wlv, it is a little more remote, the only place somebody could do that is at the pool area for the most part. But mostly, outside is outside it seems to me.

Personnally, I don't feel smokers are very considerate alot of times outside either Just because a smoker is outside doesn't mean the smoke just hovers right in front of their own personal space. Like it or not, it floats away from them and in a crowd or even not it's most likely into someone else's face. Many a time I've been either sitting on a bench in the parks or once or twice I've been on line for rides like Peter Pan at MK and someone lights up just the other side of the chains. If I'm on a bench I can get up and move but on line for a ride like that I'm pretty much stuck breathing that awful stench. There are suppossed to be designated areas for smoking but people either are ignorant of this or don't care..I'd like to think they're just not aware, but it doesn't make it any less awful. I'm not attacking a smokers right to smoke, but they could at least be considerate enough in public places to find remote areas where not subject everyone else to their habit. Outside may be outside but outside and by yourself or other smokers is not the same as outside in a crowd where everyone has no choice but to have to breathe in your smoke.

JMO

 

[LisaR]

Originally posted by floridafam

I would also like to see no smoking at the pool. I hate sittting around the pool at Vero, have kids playing everywhere and then someone lights up a sticky cigarette or cigar. YUCK!

We just spent a day at SSR pool hopping (stayed at OKW). We had this family sitting in front of us that were never without a cigarette in their hand. It was so gross and overpowering. I have never noticed anyone smoking at any of the pools until this trip. Yet, I saw quite a few smoking at SSR. My husband and I were looking everywhere for no smoking signs but we never found them. It seems dangerous to have kids walking around in bare feet while people are smoking. If they step on a lit cigarette that someone drops, it won't be pretty. Until last week, I never knew smoking was allowed at the pool.

Lisa

 

[smjj]

Has this issues ever ben brought up at any of the Members Meetings? Being new to DVC, I would like to know. If Disney is ignoring the many request at the front desk, maybe confronting them at a meeting might get better results..smjj

 

[BAYBREEZEDISNEY]

Maybe it is just me, but non-smoking unit means the entire unit which includes the balcony is Non-smoking! Is there a shortage of smoking units or do smokers maybe don't like the smell of smoke inside units either. If there is no clear cut rule, I would hope that consideration of other folks should be the deciding factor.

We are non-smokers but during our upcoming vacation at BCV, my niece who is a smoker will be joining us. We have made it clear to her, should she want to smoke, we will locate the designated smoking areas for her. It seems like a no-brainer to me.

I do not feel it is a CMs place to advise people to smoke on their balconies. There are many smokers in my family and the #1 rule is consideration for those who don't smoke;in turn no one gets on the case of the smoker for their habit.

 

[Mickmse2002]

I do not smoke cigarettes, never have. I do, however, enjoy the ocassional good cigar and cocktail. I have been known to do this on a balcony. I do this because it is outside. If you read some of these posts closely then many would suggest there is no place, either inside or out, where this is acceptable. I disagree. There are many behaviours of others that I find extremely annoying, but I try not to place my opinions over theirs.

 

[floridafam]

I think smokers should be able to smoke on their balconies.

I also don't think I'm being extreme when I say I don't want to sit outside on my balcony and have someone smoke (a cigar or cigarette) next to me.

Smoking and non-smoking rooms should be kept apart.

If you normally don't smoke but smoke cigars every so often then, technically, you should ask for a smoking room. Do you?

I think everyone could be happy if the rooms were apart and the balcony was considered part of the room.

The way I see it, I have a right to sit out on my balcony with fresh air and you have a right to smoke on your smoking room balcony. It's really very simple. I wish DVC would realize this.

 

[MisterDisney]

I must admit that I am one of "those" .. I always get nonsmoking rooms and proceed to smoke on the balcony. This mirrors what I do at home as well ... as I dont want to the smokey smell stuck in my living space ...

Unless someone is chain smoking though, how much of your balcony time could possibly be interupted by the "smoker next door", even @ 1 per hour what are we talking about here 5 minutes? <go find something to do>. I personally cant see a CM coming and busting a smoker for smoking on the balcony, but maybe as more of the world become non-smoking this will change.