For life...take three...... NEW THREAD ALERT. PG 243

[betsywdw]

Good Morning

QM - It sounds like you had a wonderful birthday! You deserve it girl! I'm so happy you got a laptop!

Sharky and Tat - Great pics! It looks like you girls had a great meet! Slowly everyone is getting to meet! I like UJ's idea of a meet at Disney in 2 years! Sounds like a plan to me

So sad about the monorail crash. Interesting stuff posted about it. Makes you really wonder.


Hi to Chele, Carla, Cheri, Chrismiss, Love, OB, Marshay and UJ If I missed anyone, I'm sorry! It's still early and I'm trying to clean my house before the day gets started. Next week I get to make my ressies for our Feb trip...I can't wait...I will finally feel like something is actually planned.

Hope everyone has a good one

 

[cherbear]

Hey girl

after talking to steve, does not appear to be driver error

Definitely mechanical error.

He said managers and all peope at base have a kill switch pack

Can not imagine no one that was standing there, not hitting the switch


Something mechanical had to have failed


But being Disney, we may never know

well like you said, they did a MAPO override (MAPO stops the monorail before it gets to the station if there is another monorail there)....but why did they do the MAPO override is the question.

 

[cherbear]

Good Morning

QM - It sounds like you had a wonderful birthday! You deserve it girl! I'm so happy you got a laptop!

Sharky and Tat - Great pics! It looks like you girls had a great meet! Slowly everyone is getting to meet! I like UJ's idea of a meet at Disney in 2 years! Sounds like a plan to me

So sad about the monorail crash. Interesting stuff posted about it. Makes you really wonder.


Hi to Chele, Carla, Cheri, Chrismiss, Love, OB, Marshay and UJ If I missed anyone, I'm sorry! It's still early and I'm trying to clean my house before the day gets started. Next week I get to make my ressies for our Feb trip...I can't wait...I will finally feel like something is actually planned.

Hope everyone has a good one

morning!

Good luck cleaning. I did quite a lot of that this past weekend. My house really needed it (and still does)

 

[betsywdw]

morning!

Good luck cleaning. I did quite a lot of that this past weekend. My house really needed it (and still does)

Hey Cheri...how are you feeling? Last time I was around you weren't feeling well, I hope you're doing better!

Yeah, this cleaning thing is enough to drive me crazy. It seems like you get one section done and by the time you get everything else cleaned, the first part is a mess again

 

[cherbear]

Hey Cheri...how are you feeling? Last time I was around you weren't feeling well, I hope you're doing better!

Yeah, this cleaning thing is enough to drive me crazy. It seems like you get one section done and by the time you get everything else cleaned, the first part is a mess again

hey, that virus or whatever it was is gone. However, I ended up getting a CT scan last week b/c my lower abdomen was still hurting (and my back) and found out I had/have a hemorraghic ovarian cyst that ruptured. I have to follow up with my gyno and hope that it goes away on it's own...or else might need surgery to remove it.

yes, totally. I wish I could afford a maid!

 

[cherbear]

from Screamscape:

(7/7/09) Despite the reports from guests who were nearby when it happened, it seems that WDW Monorail accident happened completely backwards from how it was first envisioned. It was really Monorail Pink that was moving backwards into the station at maximum reverse power, which collided into Monorail Purple which is now thought to have been stationary at the time. So yes... the death of the pilot was actually caused by Monorail Pink, but it wasn’t entirely that pilot’s fault either.
From the breakdown of several stories that have flooded by inbox in the last 12 hours or so, the blame all comes down from a major miscommunication between Central Monorail Control and the Monorail Shop while they were directing Monorail Pink through the procedure to take the switch beam from the Epcot line over to the Magic Kingdom expressway beam, before heading back to the shop for the night. The way it was explained to me is basic form is that Monorail Pink pulled forward out of the station, as if it were going to Epcot, and came to the stop somewhere just past the switch track. Here is where the communication problem comes up, as the Shop apparently controls the switch tracks and communicated something to the Central control booth (at the TTC) that the switch track has been moved. Central instructed Pink that they were clear to reverse onto the switch track, which instead struck right into Purple inside the station. However I’ve heard that no one from the platform crew was in the booth where one of them should have been during this kind of procedure, where they could visually check on things and could have called off Monorail Pink before it was too late.
The normal system that prevents accidents from happening (MAPO) was in an “overide” mode at the time, which is standard procedure any time monorails are switched from one beam to another. At this point in time the pilot of Monorail Pink was pretty much going on the word of the control tower that everything was normal. Even though they have rearview mirrors, the darkness in this area of the track combined with the curve of the beam itself were a big factor. In fact if you look at the aerial photo I’ve “borrowed” here to display the area of the accident, you can see that way the switch beam curves here alongside the main beam, it would be very difficult for the pilot to tell from “feel” that they had not switched to the right beam.
With the explanation that it was all a bad series of human errors that caused the accident, Disney was given permission to reopen the system late yesterday afternoon along with an updated procedure list of extra verifications required when moving monorails from one beam to another. Disney has also elected, for the time being, to suspend the practice of allowing park guests to ride up front with the pilots. Not so much for a safety reason, but out of respect for the pilots during this difficult time, so they aren’t swamped with non-stop questions about it from the guests.

here's the aerial view they speak of:

 

[Leger13]

Good Morning

QM - It sounds like you had a wonderful birthday! You deserve it girl! I'm so happy you got a laptop!

Sharky and Tat - Great pics! It looks like you girls had a great meet! Slowly everyone is getting to meet! I like UJ's idea of a meet at Disney in 2 years! Sounds like a plan to me

So sad about the monorail crash. Interesting stuff posted about it. Makes you really wonder.


Hi to Chele, Carla, Cheri, Chrismiss, Love, OB, Marshay and UJ If I missed anyone, I'm sorry! It's still early and I'm trying to clean my house before the day gets started. Next week I get to make my ressies for our Feb trip...I can't wait...I will finally feel like something is actually planned.

Hope everyone has a good one

Hi Betsy! Yay for making your reservation for Feb finally GL with your cleaning.

 

[Leger13]

from Screamscape:

(7/7/09) Despite the reports from guests who were nearby when it happened, it seems that WDW Monorail accident happened completely backwards from how it was first envisioned. It was really Monorail Pink that was moving backwards into the station at maximum reverse power, which collided into Monorail Purple which is now thought to have been stationary at the time. So yes... the death of the pilot was actually caused by Monorail Pink, but it wasn’t entirely that pilot’s fault either.
From the breakdown of several stories that have flooded by inbox in the last 12 hours or so, the blame all comes down from a major miscommunication between Central Monorail Control and the Monorail Shop while they were directing Monorail Pink through the procedure to take the switch beam from the Epcot line over to the Magic Kingdom expressway beam, before heading back to the shop for the night. The way it was explained to me is basic form is that Monorail Pink pulled forward out of the station, as if it were going to Epcot, and came to the stop somewhere just past the switch track. Here is where the communication problem comes up, as the Shop apparently controls the switch tracks and communicated something to the Central control booth (at the TTC) that the switch track has been moved. Central instructed Pink that they were clear to reverse onto the switch track, which instead struck right into Purple inside the station. However I’ve heard that no one from the platform crew was in the booth where one of them should have been during this kind of procedure, where they could visually check on things and could have called off Monorail Pink before it was too late.
The normal system that prevents accidents from happening (MAPO) was in an “overide” mode at the time, which is standard procedure any time monorails are switched from one beam to another. At this point in time the pilot of Monorail Pink was pretty much going on the word of the control tower that everything was normal. Even though they have rearview mirrors, the darkness in this area of the track combined with the curve of the beam itself were a big factor. In fact if you look at the aerial photo I’ve “borrowed” here to display the area of the accident, you can see that way the switch beam curves here alongside the main beam, it would be very difficult for the pilot to tell from “feel” that they had not switched to the right beam.
With the explanation that it was all a bad series of human errors that caused the accident, Disney was given permission to reopen the system late yesterday afternoon along with an updated procedure list of extra verifications required when moving monorails from one beam to another. Disney has also elected, for the time being, to suspend the practice of allowing park guests to ride up front with the pilots. Not so much for a safety reason, but out of respect for the pilots during this difficult time, so they aren’t swamped with non-stop questions about it from the guests.

here's the aerial view they speak of:

I had a feeling that it was mostly operator error. Glad you found that. Thanks for posting Cheri

 

[cherbear]

I had a feeling that it was mostly operator error. Glad you found that. Thanks for posting Cheri

you're welcome.

 

[FHS_chick_2005]

Hey all.. ive been lurking a little bit.. not really had enough time to post.. peanut has started eating baby oatmeal and he loves it.. hes doing so well eating it! I spent the night of the 4th in the ER.. i had an allergic reation to something.. i dont know what tho.. maybe watermelon i love watermelon.. my job was very unhappy but I couldnt breath like almost at all.. it was rough.. Jason is teething bad.. hes chewing on his hand so hard hes making it raw and making the cartalidge in his knuckle pop.. its gross.. im going to address it with his DR today.. he has his 6 month appt today!

 

[FHS_chick_2005]

and photobucket is working!!

sittin in his bumbo outside!

my babies! Jason loves this jumper

silly sleeper!

watchin Nina, Star, and Chica on the Sprout channel

sleepin guy

watchin fireworks.. he loved them.. jumped a little at the loud ones so we left before the finale..

sleepin guy in Santa Cruz.. it was sooo nice.. we were in the triple digits temp here and went to SC and had to buy jackets!

huh?

i chew!

whats this?!?

one of my fave pics

and this one

this one is the background on my phone

I saw this at Wallgreens and sent a pic to my uncle.. i thought it was funny.. it says "im not bald im taller than my hair"

 

[Leger13]

Great pictures Steph. He's just so cute. He really looks like he likes to stick his tongue out.

 

[FHS_chick_2005]

Great pictures Steph. He's just so cute. He really looks like he likes to stick his tongue out.

yeah he found his tongue.. and love it sticking out.. all the time with him

 

[cherbear]

cute pics Steph! I esp. like the one in the sand where he's looking at the camera.

 

[FHS_chick_2005]

cute pics Steph! I esp. like the one in the sand where he's looking at the camera.

thanks! Joshs sis gets credit for taking that one!

 

[kaoden39]

Hi guy's!

Happy Tuesday!

Gosh Jason is so cute.

 

[FHS_chick_2005]

Hi guy's!

Happy Tuesday!

Gosh Jason is so cute.

yeah he is hes muh little sweet pea.. he has his 6 month well baby checkup today at 2:45.. hes napping right now.. gunna get him up at 1:45 to get him ready

 

[Trentmom]

Hey all

My friend sent me this link

Thought it was nice to see Austin(monorail driver) in his element


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...ail-austin-wuennenberg-070709,0,2265988.story

 

[Trentmom]

Good Morning

QM - It sounds like you had a wonderful birthday! You deserve it girl! I'm so happy you got a laptop!

Sharky and Tat - Great pics! It looks like you girls had a great meet! Slowly everyone is getting to meet! I like UJ's idea of a meet at Disney in 2 years! Sounds like a plan to me

So sad about the monorail crash. Interesting stuff posted about it. Makes you really wonder.


Hi to Chele, Carla, Cheri, Chrismiss, Love, OB, Marshay and UJ If I missed anyone, I'm sorry! It's still early and I'm trying to clean my house before the day gets started. Next week I get to make my ressies for our Feb trip...I can't wait...I will finally feel like something is actually planned.

Hope everyone has a good one

Hey girl!!!

So nice to see ya

How exciting you get to book. Loving the new ticker? Doing the math in my head...will u be there for Valentimes Day's? So cool

well like you said, they did a MAPO override (MAPO stops the monorail before it gets to the station if there is another monorail there)....but why did they do the MAPO override is the question.

One may never know

 

[cherbear]

Hey all

My friend sent me this link

Thought it was nice to see Austin(monorail driver) in his element


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...ail-austin-wuennenberg-070709,0,2265988.story