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Originally posted by Lebjwb
How do you plan on celebrating Kerry's victory on November 2?

I just got back from my weekend and couldn't believe I actually found a political thread here where I was welcome!

How will I celebrate? With the best night's sleep I've had since November 2000!

Nice to see such friendliness back on these boards - great idea Lebjwb!
 
Good Morning everyone!

We have a small local victory. My brother was home last week to have gum surgery and decided it wasn't worth the trouble to drive to city hall and get his absentee ballot, so he isn't voting this year. He is a Bush supporter. He was bribed by McDonald's instead of pizza, btw

Granted, he's a MA resident so it's not like it really matters but I still thought it was a small victory. ;) :p
 
This is wonderful thread!....so relaxing..... so enjoyable!


To answer the question...I will cry in happiness, laugh with joy, and shout with enthusiasm when Kerry/Edwards wins!:teeth:
GO KERRY! GO KERRY! GO KERRY!
 
I found this site to be very informative regarding not only the electoral college but also other political info.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

I'm glad that this thread is being well received.

Pizza, Noodles and Underwear aside (LOL!!!), we simply must get out the vote.
 

Good Morning, my Kerry/Edwards friends!

I wanted to post this article from Sunday. I didn't post the link because you'd have to register at the NY Times site, so forgive me for taking up so much space. It's the latest Frank Rich article- I think Rich's writing is great, but the righties always get up in arms when I post them....I love this thread!!!

I think it says some important stuff about media corporations and their role in the system, especially since the conservatives continually call foul on reporters.

FRANK RICH
Will We Need a New 'All the President's Men'?

Published: October 17, 2004


SUCH is the power of movies that the first image "Watergate" brings to mind three decades later is not Richard Nixon so much as the golden duo of Redford and Hoffman riding to the nation's rescue in "All the President's Men." But if our current presidency is now showing symptoms of a precancerous Watergate syndrome - as it is, daily - we have not yet reached that denouement immortalized by Hollywood, in which our scrappy heroes finally bring Nixon to heel in his second term. No, we're back instead in the earlier reels of his first term, before the criminality of the Watergate break-in, when no one had heard of Woodward and Bernstein. Back then an arrogant and secretive White House, furious at the bad press fueled by an unpopular and mismanaged war, was still flying high as it kneecapped with impunity any reporter or news organization that challenged its tightly enforced message of victory at hand.

It was then that the vice president, Spiro Agnew, scripted by the speechwriter Pat Buchanan, tried to discredit the press as an elite - or, as he spelled it out, "a tiny, enclosed fraternity of privileged men." It was then that the attorney general, John Mitchell, under the pretext of national security, countenanced wiretaps of Hedrick Smith of The Times and Marvin Kalb of CBS News, as well as a full F.B.I. investigation of CBS's Daniel Schorr. Today it's John Ashcroft's Justice Department, also invoking "national security," that hopes to seize the phone records of Judith Miller and Philip Shenon of The Times, claiming that what amounts to a virtual wiretap is warranted by articles about Islamic charities and terrorism published nearly three years ago.

"The fundamental right of Americans, through our free press, to penetrate and criticize the workings of our government is under attack as never before," wrote William Safire last month. When an alumnus of the Nixon White House says our free press is being attacked as "never before," you listen. What alarms him now are the efforts of Patrick Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor in the Valerie Plame-Robert Novak affair, to threaten reporters at The Times and Time magazine with jail if they don't reveal their sources. Given that the Times reporter in question (Judith Miller again) didn't even write an article on the subject under investigation, Mr. Fitzgerald overreaches so far that he's created a sci-fi plot twist out of Steven Spielberg's "Minority Report."

It's all the scarier for being only one piece in a pattern of media intimidation that's been building for months now. Once Woodward and Bernstein did start investigating Watergate, Nixon plotted to take economic revenge by siccing the Federal Communications Commission on TV stations owned by The Washington Post's parent company. The current White House has been practicing pre-emptive media intimidation to match its policy of pre-emptive war. Its F.C.C. chairman, using Janet Jackson's breast and Howard Stern's mouth as pretexts, has sufficiently rattled Viacom, which broadcast both of these entertainers' infractions against "decency," that its chairman, the self-described "liberal Democrat" Sumner Redstone, abruptly announced his support for the re-election of George W. Bush last month. "I vote for what's good for Viacom," he explained, and he meant it. He took this loyalty oath just days after the "60 Minutes" fiasco prompted a full-fledged political witch hunt on Viacom's CBS News, another Republican target since the Nixon years. Representative Joe Barton, Republican of Texas, has threatened to seek Congressional "safeguards" regulating TV news content and, depending what happens Nov. 2, he may well have the political means to do it.

Viacom is hardly the only media giant cowed by the prospect that this White House might threaten its corporate interests if it gets out of line. Disney's refusal to release Michael Moore's partisan "Fahrenheit 9/11" in an election year would smell less if the company applied the same principle to its ABC radio stations, where the equally partisan polemics of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity are heard every day. Even a low-profile film project in conflict with Bush dogma has spooked the world's largest media company, Time Warner, proprietor of CNN. Its Warner Brothers, about to release a special DVD of "Three Kings," David O. Russell's 1999 movie criticizing the first gulf war, suddenly canceled a planned extra feature, a new Russell documentary criticizing the current war. Whether any of these increasingly craven media combines will stand up to the Bush administration in a constitutional pinch, as Katharine Graham and her Post Company bravely did to the Nixon administration during Watergate, is a proposition that hasn't been remotely tested yet.


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To understand what kind of journalism the Bush administration expects from these companies, you need only look at those that are already its collaborators. Fox News speaks loudly for itself, to the point of posting on its Web site an article by its chief political correspondent containing fictional John Kerry quotes. (After an outcry, it was retracted as "written in jest.") But Fox is just the tip of the Rupert Murdoch empire. When The New York Post covered the release of the report by the C.I.A.'s chief weapons inspector, Charles Duelfer, it played the story on page 8 and didn't get to the clause "while no stockpiles of W.M.D. were found in Iraq" until the 16th paragraph. This would be an Onion parody were it not deadly serious.

It's hard to imagine an operation more insidious than Mr. Murdoch's, but the Sinclair Broadcast Group may be it. The owner or operator of 62 TV stations nationwide, including affiliates of all four major broadcast networks, this company gets little press scrutiny because it is invisible in New York City, Washington and Los Angeles, where it has no stations. But Sinclair, whose top executives have maxed out as Bush contributors, was first smoked out of the shadows last spring when John McCain called it "unpatriotic" for ordering its eight ABC stations not to broadcast the "Nightline" in which Ted Koppel read the names of the then 721 American casualties in Iraq. This was the day after Paul Wolfowitz had also downsized American casualties by testifying before Congress that they numbered only about 500.

Thanks to Elizabeth Jensen of The Los Angeles Times, who first broke the story last weekend, we now know that Sinclair has grander ambitions for the election. It has ordered all its stations, whose most powerful reach is in swing states like Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania, to broadcast a "news" special featuring a film, "Stolen Honor," that trashes Mr. Kerry along the lines of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth ads. The film's creator is a man who spent nearly eight years in the employ of Tom Ridge. Sinclair has ordered that it be run in prime time during a specific four nights in late October, when it is likely to be sandwiched in with network hits like "CSI," "The Apprentice" and "Desperate Housewives." Democrats are screaming, but don't expect the Bush apparatchiks at federal agencies to pursue their complaints as if they were as serious as a "wardrobe malfunction." A more likely outcome is that Sinclair, which already reaches 24 percent of American viewers, will reap the regulatory favors it is seeking to expand that audience in a second Bush term.

Like the Nixon administration before it, the Bush administration arrived at the White House already obsessed with news management and secrecy. Nixon gave fewer press conferences than any president since Hoover; Mr. Bush has given fewer than any in history. Early in the Nixon years, a special National Press Club study concluded that the president had instituted "an unprecedented, government-wide effort to control, restrict and conceal information." Sound familiar? The current president has seen to it that even future historians won't get access to papers he wants to hide; he quietly gutted the Presidential Records Act of 1978, the very reform enacted by Congress as a post-Watergate antidote to pathological Nixonian secrecy.

The path of the Bush White House as it has moved from Agnew-style press baiting to outright assault has also followed its antecedent. The Nixon administration's first legal attack on the press, a year before the Watergate break-in, was its attempt to stop The Times and The Washington Post from publishing the Pentagon Papers, the leaked internal Defense Department history of our failure in Vietnam. Though 9/11 prompted Ari Fleischer's first effort to warn the media to "watch what they say," it's failure in Iraq that has pushed the Bush administration over the edge. It was when Operation Iraqi Freedom was bogged down early on that it spun the fictional saga of Jessica Lynch. It's when the percentage of Americans who felt it was worth going to war in Iraq fell to 50 percent in the Sept. 2003 Gallup poll, down from 73 that April, that identically worded letters "signed" by different soldiers mysteriously materialized in 11 American newspapers, testifying that security for Iraq's citizens had been "largely restored." (As David Greenberg writes in his invaluable "Nixon's Shadow," phony letters to news outlets were also a favorite Nixon tactic.) The legal harassment of the press, like the Republican party's Web-driven efforts to discredit specific journalists even at non-CBS networks, has escalated in direct ratio to the war's decline in support.

"What you're seeing on your TV screens," the president said when minimizing the Iraq insurgency in May, are "the desperate tactics of a hateful few." Maybe that's the sunny news that can be found on a Sinclair station. Now, with our election less than three weeks away, the bad news coming out of Iraq everywhere else is a torrent. Reporters at virtually every news organization describe a downward spiral so dangerous that they can't venture anywhere in Iraq without risking their lives. Last weekend marines spoke openly and by name to Steve Fainaru of The Washington Post about the quagmire they're witnessing firsthand and its irrelevance to battling Al Qaeda, whose 9/11 attack motivated many of them to enlist in the first place. "Every day you read the articles in the States where it's like, 'Oh, it's getting better and better," said Lance Cpl. Jonathan Snyder of Gettysburg, Pa. "But when you're here, you know it's worse every day." Another marine, Lance Cpl. Alexander Jones of Ball Ground, Ga., told Mr. Fainaru: "We're basically proving out that the government is wrong. We're catching them in a lie." Asked if he was concerned that he and his buddies might be punished for speaking out, Cpl. Brandon Autin of New Iberia, La., responded: "What are they going to do - send us to Iraq?"

What "they" can do is try to intimidate, harass, discredit and prosecute news organizations that report stories like this. If history is any guide, and the hubris of re-election is tossed into the mix, that harrowing drama can go on for a long time before we get to the feel-good final act of "All the President's Men."
 
Originally posted by Peter Pirate
running naked around my property...Is that acceptable, I wonder???
pirate:

LOL, well it's getting a little cold around here for that, but more power to ya!!!;) :wave:


I'm going to be in a really good mood. I'll call everyone I know from the other side and gloat! (just joking);)

I'll come on here and lord it over all of the nay sayers!:eek:
 
Good morning, all. Just thought I'd welcome all who posted since last night. I have to admit that I now have a hope that this thread stays on the first page until Kerry's win has been confirmed.

Who's with me on this?
 
Thought I'd say hello.

On Friday I did a few hours of phone work for the Kerry-Edwards campaign. Basically I was asking voters who they were supporting, how strong their support was for the candidate and also asked the senatorial race here in Wisconsin.

If someone was undecided or leaning towards Kerry I would share a few bits of info about Kerry's platform and also encourage them to vote PERIOD.

If they were definitely voting for W I'd shudder internally;) and thank them for their time.

I was surprised at how eager people were to share information with me and was even happier to hear how many people were voting for Kerry. The other thing that struck me was hearing a few people say they'd be voting for Bush but also for Russ Feingold. They are such polar opposites but I guess at least 1 Dem vote out of 2 is better than none!

It felt good to help out and I plan on going back this week - I also scored a yard sign for a friend who doesn't have one yet and some buttons.

I'm anxious for Nov 2 to come and truly looking foward to the day when I can refer to him as President Kerry. :teeth:
 
If y'all want some more good D news, the Houston Chronicle endorsed Richard Morrison, who's running against Tom DeLay in TX-22. This is HUGE news. Here's the endorsement:

District 22, Richard Morrison — A Democrat who promises to place the
district's interests above grasping for partisan power in Washington,
Morrison seeks to unseat the long-serving Republican incumbent, U.S.
Rep. Tom DeLay. Morrison, an environmental lawyer and Sugar Land
resident, vows to do a better job in securing federal funds for
Houston-area transportation and homeland security. Morrison says he
would work to close corporate tax loopholes and invest more in
education and health care. He is personally opposed to abortion. DeLay
is the powerful House majority leader, perhaps more influential than
the House speaker. The District 22 election thus has national
implications that bear heavily on the race.

DeLay has been reprimanded several times by the House ethics committee
for an indifference to the rules that reflects poorly on the House and
on Texas. Most recently, the committee's bipartisan membership
admonished DeLay for offering a favor in exchange for a colleague's
vote; giving the appearance of wrongdoing by exchanging access on the
golf course for campaign contributions from energy executives; and
improperly trying to use federal aviation officials to locate
Democratic legislators who had fled Texas.

DeLay's misplaced priorities were most evident in his previous ban on
federal rail transit funds for Houston, causing the funds to go to
other cities. DeLay was behind the redistricting effort in Texas that
displaced badly needed property tax relief and school finance reform as
the Austin leadership's top priorities.

Morrison faces an uphill battle in this race. The Houston region and
the entire country will be better off if he succeeds.
 
Oh my gosh!! I will be so freaking happy. Everyone, come to my house!!!!!! I mean it, come on over!!

My across the street neighbor, just a couple of minutes ago stuck a Kerry/Edwards sign in his yard! I just wanted to run over and hug him!! But I called DH instead.
:teeth: :wave2:
 
I don't vote strictly by party affiliation. However, after I finished filling out my ballot (Oregon has only vote-by-mail elections now), I noticed that all my votes went to Democrats - at least for those positions that listed a party. Think there's a trend there somewhere?
 
Just bumping back to the first page, otherwise Elwood won't be able to hear us anymore. :bounce:
 
I moved to this city about 9 months ago. I am trying to find out as much as I possibly can about what is going on locally. I am not getting bombarded with election commercials because I have Satelite. Living by NYC, our media is more focused on their politics. There's a weekly paper for my town that they delever to everyone and that usually has a lot of info on who is running for what and other goings on. But, we haven't had any of these papers delivered in weeks.

Our mayor passed away in June and there are about 11 people running for office. I have no idea how to vote. I try and research themon the internet and there isn't much info.

I just hope I get my sample ballot soon so that I know what else I will have the option to vote for. In the 2000 election, we got our sample ballots the day after we voted.

I guess I can call the elections board and ask.

How do you all keep up with your local politics?
 
Here in Oregon, the Secretary of State's office sends out voter's pamphlets that cover the candidates and issues included in the election. For this election, as an example, the pamphlet came in 2 volumes. The first covers the state-wide initiatives and includes the full text of the initiative plus letters of support or opposition to each (people/groups pay $500 to get these letters included). The second volume covers the candidates for all level of government plus has a section specific to the county of the registered voter. That section includes anthing specific to a county and the towns in it, such as a measure to expand my town's boundaries.
 
My husband has been working a lot on the campaign, phoning prospective voters and knocking on doors. Wednesday, we are going to see Kerry and Jon Bon Jovi in Pittsburgh, VIP seats. We are taking the kids, and my four year old is very excited.

One other thing I will do when Kerry wins is give my husband a big hug.
 
I have a lovely sign in my car - Kerry Edwards For a Stronger America :teeth:

I love it!
 
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