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Originally posted by momof2inPA
Someone on the Bushie thread said that Michael Moore was in negotiations to show Fahrenheit 911 on network tv before the election. Could it be? That seems too good to be true.

Don't believe everything you read "over there" because, at times, it's not quite right. Sometimes its the Faux News of the DIS. ;)

There were plans to air Farenheit 911 on In Demand Pay-For-View, but evidently that's been scrapped according to CNN.

Even if In Demand had aired Farenheit 911, how this somehow equates with Sinclair hijacking their regular programming to air Stolen Honor, and thereby giving their subscribership no choice, is ludicrous. The only thing In Demand would've done is save someone a trip to the video store.

It seems like our friends on the other side of the aisle just can't grasp the idea of choosing to view something, and paying for it out of one's own pocket, is not the same as what Sinclair broadcasting planned to do.

But, those are our friends on the other side of the aisle.

And, God love 'em, they'll still be our friends after Kerry wins.
 
Has anyone ever noticed that when you post an opinion on a political thread, all of your words are twisted. I am currently participating in the political senior note thread, because I think it's disgusting. I find no humor in homelessness, death, war, unemployment etc... Up until now I have pretty much kept my opinions to myself, because I see how nasty things can be. Anyhow, every time I post I am quoted, but even though they have the quote right in front of them they say I meant something else.:rolleyes: I mean what I write, period. Sorry for the rant, but that is just really getting on my nerves.
 
Originally posted by Laura
Ugh. I just noticed on the "Bush Supporters Only" thread someone posted a "resume" of John Kerry. It says he has no higher education than his Yale degree and no work experience outside of Congress. Duh, he has a law degree from Boston College and worked in the DA's office of Middlesex County, then set up a private law firm. Then he was Dukakis' Lieutenant Governor before he ran for his current Senate seat.

...There are probably other inaccuracies in that "resume" but that one's just so blatant. I wonder if it would do any good to mention it? Nah, they've made their decision, right? Doesn't matter anyway, it was only like 10-12 years of the man's life just dismissed.
Gerge W. Bush resume:
"Ask my Daddy, he handles these things."
 
I haven't seen the wolf ad for Bush, but yesterday I saw an "approved by President Bush" ad featuring the WTC. (I'm in a battleground state. We've been saturated with ads for the past few weeks)

I was pretty livid over that. I can't believe this dictator would use human lives and they way they died to further his own political career. :mad:
 

Originally posted by Hagred
I haven't seen the wolf ad for Bush, but yesterday I saw an "approved by President Bush" ad featuring the WTC. (I'm in a battleground state. We've been saturated with ads for the past few weeks)

I was pretty livid over that. I can't believe this dictator would use human lives and they way they died to further his own political career. :mad:

They sure angered us here when they came to dance on the graves of those who died for their convention.

http://www.oliverwillis.com/stuff/gopmashup.mov
 
Originally posted by Hagred
I haven't seen the wolf ad for Bush, but yesterday I saw an "approved by President Bush" ad featuring the WTC. (I'm in a battleground state. We've been saturated with ads for the past few weeks)

I was pretty livid over that. I can't believe this dictator would use human lives and they way they died to further his own political career. :mad:
I no longer put anything past him.
 
I just saw a young man from moveon canvassing our neighborhood.
 
Originally posted by WishingStar
I no longer put anything past him.

Nor do I.

The republicans are desperate to get him elected and there's nothing they won't do to see that happen. He's a vile, evil man as far as I'm concerned.

Even a few weeks ago I wouldn't have said that, but I've seen and read too much to ignore what is obvious to anyone who can get past their blind faith.
 
Early voting brings cries of bullying

By Brittany Wallman
Staff Writer

October 23, 2004

On Election Day, voters will be protected from campaign pressures by a 50-foot cone, an invisible barrier that campaign workers cannot breach. Not so for early voters.

While the Voter's Bill of Rights in state law says they have a right to "vote free from coercion or intimidation by elections officers or any other person," a glitch in the newer early voting law does not include the same 50-foot guarantee.

As a result, with early voting taking place in busy public places like City Halls and libraries, voters are voicing complaints of being blocked by political mobs, or being singled out for their political views. Others say they have been grabbed, screamed at and cursed by political partisans of all stripes.

Republican Rep. Tom Feeney of Oviedo said the antagonizers are "Kerry thugs" out to harass Bush voters.

"If you ask me whether I believe there is an organized effort to intimidate Republican voters, the answer is absolutely yes," said Feeney.

The Republican Party is calling on the secretary of state's office for help, asking that early voting rules be clarified.

The secretary of state's office has not yet responded.

"Significant numbers of people have already been deterred from voting," wrote Republican Party Chairwoman Carole Jean Jordan to Secretary of State Glenda Hood, "and this will continue until corrective measures are taken."

Democratic Party officials in Tallahassee said they've had some complaints, too.

"We have had incidents as well," said Christine Anderson, spokeswoman for the Kerry campaign. "We've had quite a few."

She said the party hasn't taken affidavits from voters and found it shocking the Republicans were so focused on the issue rather than working to make sure people can vote.

"It's just absurd they would try to accuse us of intimidation efforts," said Anderson.

Permits in Palm Beach County show that the SEIU union and other Democratic groups have been holding rallies at early voting locations, where they have a captive audience of voters standing in line. Elections Supervisor Theresa LePore said the lines are long because voters are brought in by the busload.

"Special interest groups are trying to whip everybody into a frenzy and get everybody upset," she said. "Campaigns and their observers are confronting the workers and the voters. Things have gotten nasty and ugly."

LePore said the county has an ordinance that forbids interference in county business in the building and they are citing that law to the campaigners. Her attorney has told her that an area at each polling place can be set aside for solicitation so she planned to do so.

LePore said campaign workers followed voters into polling places and handed out literature next to the voting machines. Other voters standing in line were told the machines don't work and that they should vote absentee.

Gisela Salas, deputy elections supervisor in Broward County, said even though early voting "doesn't have that voter solicitation rule, so to speak," her office has posted signs saying "no campaigning beyond this point" and have had cooperation for the most part. Still, there were complaints in Broward.

Florida Senate Minority Leader Ron Klein, D-Boca Raton, one of the co-sponsors of the early voting law, said it's a shame that everything must be spelled out.

"I wish people would use common sense in terms of how they approached these things," said Klein. "It's a new law. Certainly there's a few things we need to go back in the legislation and fix. We are going to have to go back and put more specific rules in about how early voting should work."

State Rep. Irv Slosberg, a Democrat from Boca Raton, said he wasn't happy with the early voting, either, because the rules changed daily.

"Someone from the elections office has to come out rather than relying on the county library to make these decisions," said Slosberg. "That's what's happening. It's up to the library people. ... Every day's a new game."

Republican Party senior adviser Mindy Tucker Fletcher said she had more than a dozen affidavits from voters around the state that would be forwarded to Hood's office.

According to the affidavits Fletcher released:

One woman who voted early in Boca Raton, at the Southwest County Regional Library, complained that as she stood in line, two men behind her were "trashing our president," Fletcher said, declining to identify the woman. She tried to ignore them. Then the man touched her arm and said, "Who are you voting for?"

"I said, `I don't think that's an appropriate question,'" the woman said she responded.

"Uh oh! We have a Bush supporter here," screamed the man behind her.

For the 2 1/2 hours she had to wait in line, she was heckled by the man. As they neared the voting room, someone in the rear of the line yelled, "I sure hope everyone here is voting for Kerry!" she reported.

That's when the man behind her held his hand over her head and screamed, "We have a Republican right here!" There were "boos and jeers" from the crowd.

"I felt intimidated, harassed and threatened!" the woman wrote in her complaint to the Republican Party.

Elaine Fandino complained to the Republican Party that she took her mother to vote on South Military Trail in Palm Beach County and was confronted by 25 people supporting John Kerry for president. The crowd was "very angry and used foul language," she reported. She said the man next to her said, "Where's my shotgun?"

In Broward County, at the regional library in Pembroke Pines, a voter complained that Kerry supporters used abusive language about President Bush and had signs and banners within 50 feet of the entrance.

Kerry supporters were "shoving anti-Bush propaganda at us," complained the voter, who said he shouted back "Vote President Bush!"

A woman who voted in Plantation at the West Regional Courthouse said she was offended to see five or six people with "huge stick on badges" for Kerry/Edwards, standing near the voting machines.

"Never in all the years of voting do we remember being allowed to show a badge or poster or literature while inside the area where the voters are standing ready to cast their vote," she wrote.

Juan D'Arce of Miami complained to the Republicans that he tried early voting in downtown Miami. He was wearing a Bush pin, but he couldn't stand the taunting, so he turned away and did not vote.

Howard Sherman complained about his voting experience at North Shore Branch Library in Miami-Dade County. He found a crowd of Kerry supporters blocking the door.

"They were positioned directly in front of the entrance to the library in such a manner that it would be impossible to avoid them while entering the polling place," he reported.

Sherman said he tried to slip through the thinnest part of the crowd, but a woman in a Kerry T-shirt grabbed his arm and asked if he was voting for Kerry.

"I seem to recall from civics class that this sort of electioneering is illegal," Sherman complained to the Republicans.

Republican Lawrence Gottfried, who became a poll watcher in Delray Beach after what he thought was inappropriate behavior at the polls, said the things he saw upset him.

Gottfried said that while working at the Delray poll, actor Danny DeVito and his wife, actress Rhea Perlman, showed up. Gottfried is a fan, but he didn't ask for an autograph.

"I said, `Look Mr. DeVito, I'm a big fan of yours and Rhea's, but you are blocking the entrance. You're campaigning, you've got a Kerry-Edwards button on, and it's not appropriate."

Gottfried, who used to be a Democrat, said the things he saw were "ridiculous."

"There is a time for partisanship and it's OK to have a different point of view, but don't violate the sanctity of the polling area," he said.

Buddy Nevins contributed to this report.
 
I was posting on another thread where the bushies were complaining about how awful democraticunderground.com was.

According to them it was just pure slime and anyone who posted there was slime as well.

I wonder what they would think about the folks at freerepublic.com who are advocating murdering Democrats??? Of course, they thought that someone dying is funny, so they probably don't see a problem with the freeper mentality either.


From the freepers regarding what to do with liberals....

"I understand what you're saying but guillotines seem a little too "Frenchified".
Guns and rope.....it's the cowboy way."

This is the mind set that George Bush fuels everyday with his hate speech....
 
Originally posted by momof2inPA
I just saw a young man from moveon canvassing our neighborhood.

Yippee! I've given so much money to Move On this year I'm really broke.
 
Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Someone's posting lame nonsense that belongs on the "bushie" thread. But hey, adding to the # of posters and post count may be her motive. Who knew?
 
Originally posted by peachgirl
Nor do I.

The republicans are desperate to get him elected and there's nothing they won't do to see that happen. He's a vile, evil man as far as I'm concerned.

Even a few weeks ago I wouldn't have said that, but I've seen and read too much to ignore what is obvious to anyone who can get past their blind faith.
You took the words right out of my mouth. Vile and evil sums it all up.
 
Good news from the Newsweek poll. Bush's supposed 6 pt lead that the bushies were crowing about has vanished and it's back to a dead heat again! Of course, before bush went ahead I was told that the Newsweek poll was worthless. Bush went ahead and it suddenly became reliable. My bet is the bushies have decided it's trash again.:teeth:

Oct. 23 - With the number of days before the presidential election dwindling down to single digits, a new NEWSWEEK poll finds President George W. Bush and Sen. John F. Kerry running in an ever tighter race. The poll of 1,008 registered voters, including 880 likely voters—conducted Thursday and Friday—finds President Bush’s lead in last week’s NEWSWEEK poll has evaporated.



Of course, Democrats had better be determined to vote, because the right isn't going to make it easy.

In swing states like Ohio, the GOP reportedly plans to have thousands of monitors in heavily De_mocratic districts on Nov. 2, challenging voters’ qualifications to cast their ballots

As I said, they'll do anything to keep the Presidency. They believe they are entitled to it.
 
Why is he evil?

Take a look at this site and a few of the ads listed here.

http://www.winbackrespect.org/ads/


Imagine being the mother or wife of a soldier in Iraq who died and watching Bush make jokes about not finding the WMD that your son or husband died trying to find. If that's not evil, then I don't know what is.
 
Originally posted by peachgirl
Why is he evil?

Take a look at this site and a few of the ads listed here.

http://www.winbackrespect.org/ads/


Imagine being the mother or wife of a soldier in Iraq who died and watching Bush make jokes about not finding the WMD that your son or husband died trying to find. If that's not evil, then I don't know what is.
That is the exact ad that I was referring to last night. What an inhumane jerk! Should we really have a President that thinks war is funny?
 
Thanks for mentioning that ad. I did a search and finally found it online so that everyone could see it. Living in a state that is not in play means I rarely see any political ads other than what I see online or on cable news.



Don't believe the lie that all the military is for Bush. The letter written by the woman who is featured in that ad will break your heart. It's lengthy, but well worth reading.




From the Band of Sisters website.....


An open letter from Brooke Campbell

Ms. Campbell got involved with Win Back Respect's Band of Sisters after she wrote a very powerful open letter following the Republican National Convention. Here is that letter:


Dear President Bush,

I found out that my brother, Sergeant Ryan M. Campbell, was dead during a graduate seminar at Emory University on April 29, 2004. Immediately after a uniformed officer knocked at my mother's door to deliver the message that broke her heart, she called me on my cell phone. She could say nothing but "He's gone." I could say nothing but "No." Over and over again we chanted this refrain to each other over the phone as I made my way across the country to hold her as she wept.

I had made the very same trip in February, cutting classes to spend my brother's two weeks' leave from Baghdad with him. Little did I know then that the next time I saw him would be at Arlington National Cemetery. During those days in February, my brother shared with me his fear, his disillusionment, and his anger. "We had all been led to believe that Iraq posed a serious threat to America as well as its surrounding nations," he said. "We invaded expecting to find weapons of mass destruction and a much more prepared and well-trained Republican Guard waiting for us. It is now a year later, and alas, no weapons of mass destruction or any other real threat, for that matter."

Ryan was scheduled to complete his one-year assignment to Iraq on April 25. But on April 11, he emailed me to let me know not to expect him in Atlanta for a May visit, because his tour of duty had been involuntarily extended. "Just do me one big favor, ok?" he wrote. "Don't vote for Bush. No. Just don't do it. I would not be happy with you."

Last night, I listened to George W. Bush's live, televised speech at the Republican National Convention. He spoke to me and my family when he announced, "I have met with parents and wives and husbands who have received a folded flag, and said a final goodbye to a soldier they loved. I am awed that so many have used those meetings to say that I am in their prayers and to offer encouragement to me. Where does strength like that come from? How can people so burdened with sorrow also feel such pride? It is because they know their loved one was last seen doing good. Because they know that liberty was precious to the one they lost. And in those military families, I have seen the character of a great nation: decent, and idealistic, and strong."

This is my reply: Mr. President, I know that you probably still "don't do body counts," so you may not know that almost one thousand U.S. troops have died doing what you told them they had to do to protect America. Ryan was Number 832. Liberty was, indeed, precious to the one I lost-- so precious that he would rather have gone to prison than back to Iraq in February. Like you, I don't know where the strength for "such pride" on the part of people "so burdened with sorrow" comes from; maybe I spent it all holding my mother as she wept. I last saw my loved one at the Kansas City airport, staring after me as I walked away. I could see April 29 written on his sad, sand-chapped and sunburned face. I could see that he desperately wanted to believe that if he died, it would be while "doing good," as you put it. He wanted us to be able to be proud of him. Mr. President, you gave me and my mother a folded flag instead of the beautiful boy who called us "Moms" and "Brookster." But worse than that, you sold my little brother a bill of goods. Not only did you cheat him of a long meaningful life, but you cheated him of a meaningful death. You are in my prayers, Mr. President, because I think that you need them more than anyone on the face of the planet. But you will never get my vote.

So to whom it may concern: Don't vote for Bush. No. Just don't do it. I would not be happy with you.

Sincerely,
Brooke M. Campbell
Atlanta, GA
 
I feel so sad for people like Brooke. I'd hate to feel that a loved one died in vain. It's hard for these families, the members of the military deployed overseas--whether they support Bush and this war or not. I support our troops. They're doing their jobs, following orders. It isn't a total waste, us being over there. Saddam Hussein will never torture another Iraqi ever again. But there are so many evil leaders in the world, and we can't take on them all. But I do hope that someday Brooke Campbell will find some comfort in the fact that her brother did help Iraq.
 
Originally posted by Lebjwb
How do you plan on celebrating Kerry's victory on November 2?


Well, I hope your are right, but I fear you are wrong.
 
I just read the letter from the woman who brother died in Iraq and I am in tears. I think that should be posted in it's own thread because it is powerful and more people should read it.
 
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