For all you boycotters. .

[tiger95]

Just a lurker, but I am sick of this. It is just WillyJ using his position as moderator to push his views on the board in PC manner.

 

[CathyCanada]

Well tiger, WillyJ is not only a mod here, but a poster who is entitled to his views. Whether or not you agree with them is up to you, but he has the right to say them.

Nik, you really can't believe that BS that Canada thought you "deserved" 9/11. I'm hoping I misunderstand what you are saying.

BR is right, by boycotting goods from that country, you may only be hurting yourselves. Not only that, but you do hurt the people of that country and then you are painting us all with the same brush. I have stated dozens of times here that I disagree with our country's position on the war. I voted for the idiot Prime Minister, but I sure as hell don't have to think this actions are right. But if you boycott goods that I may have a part in making, you are hurting me and the majority of Canadians. Funny, but the media seems to love to focus on those who scream the loudest, the protesters. That doesn't mean they speak for the majority of Canadians. I see the same on CNN in the US though. For every story that shows families and others supporting the military, there are dozens showing those that don't support the war.

I think it is sad that here on the DIS, a place I have given my heart and soul to for 5 years, writing content, trying to keep the boards a safe and comfortable place for all and helping to keep it running, I am starting to feel unwelcome.
Cathy

 

[annemariec]

I've seen posts deleted for using words such as racist & bigot.
What's the difference now?

Annemarie

 

[Saffron]

I knew what you meant Will, because I know your heart. I'm glad you were able to come back and clarify things this morning.

I too think if you feel you should boycott, then you have every right to and you should (although I have to say that I don't see any sense in boycotting any of the countries represented in the World Showcase at WDW).

I've seen many bigotted comments and jokes about the French and a few about Canadians. I know that they've been hurtful to people who post here. That's what I wish people would stop.

And about the French boycotting US products -- they have every right to boycott us, just as you have every right to boycott them. it's a cycle. You boycott me, I'll boycott you. Who started it, I don't know. Changing the name of French fries to Freedom Fries on some menus is a little over the top for me, in my opinion.

 

[Miss Jasmine]

I can't believe how out of hand this is all getting.

1) Willy J, just because someone boycott's goods from a country or company does not make them a bigot or racist.
2) Being mean to someone from another nation, race, religion or whatever based on one of those reasons does make you a bigot or racist or whatever.
There is a difference between these two things.

That said I'm not boycotting anything but boycotting.

I have seen my friends be hurt by this board and it sucks. They have been hurt because of WHERE they are from. Their views do not matter. How dumb is that? Some of the "good" christian people on this board once again make me scratch my head. But I am not going to get into all that.

To all my friends who have been hurt and are starting to feel unwanted, I have this to say, the boards wouldn't be what they are without you. {{{HUGS}}} Please don't let the few ignorant people chase you away.

 

[Robinrs]

CC:

I have been where you are now. It is so sad when certain people can use such painful words and hurt someone so deeply than politely push themselves away from their keyboard and live their lives...

First of all, I'd like to say that the moderators on this board do not use our status to push our own agenda, we are merely people with opinions, just like all of you. IN FACT, we are kept to a much HIGHER code of ethics than the other posters and thank God for that.

I re-read Willy's post and did not see anywhere where he posted that boycotting was bigotted and racist... .. he stated verbatim:

If you can look deep in your heart and say yes; then by all means keep up this boycott stuff. .If not; then please lay off this racist; biggotted nonsense that is just hurting people here on the CB you don't really mean to hurt. .

Before you take this as a criticism of boycotters, he was referring to some recent posts that said some extremely ignorant and nasty things about certain groups of people. So much it hurt a woman who puts her heart and soul into this board everyday and has worked very hard to make sure that you all still have a place to verbalize your views on a daily basis.

This is inexcusable in my opinion.

I think people have a right to boycott whomever they want for whatever they want. I just wonder how they will boycott the Americans that don't support their views? I guess we can boycott apple pie?

Our local consumer advocate tells us to vote with our feet, in other words, don't financially support something that you don't agree with. That's a right of Americans. I just wonder if will really hurt the ones you want to send a message to. Maybe, maybe not.

And as for their boycott of our products, c'est la vie.

There has been a thin line between rational thinking and pure radicalism on this issue. I don't know if there is a way to balance it out or rationalize it because people have free will and will exercise their right.

 

[TiggerInNY]

I read all your posts and I'm not going to say which way I feel about anything.

I thought this was supposed to be boards for DISNEY!!! The place we go to feel like kids again and forget about the world around us. Why don't you take the politics and go elsewhere. Two things you shouldn't talk about in a forum like this....politics and religion.

One thing I will say, I guess none of you lost anyone on 9/11.

TTFN,
Maria

 

[Leota]

I am an American who thinks that Bush has become very Hitler-esque....Does that make me an enemy of the US? I don't think so. I am ferociously Pro-America......
I have no problem with the fact that some countries have decided not to support this war & are speaking against it - I'm doing the same. It is our Human Right to make our own decisions & to speak them freely. Bush made a choice to proceed with a war which was globally un-popular. Now we have to face the consequences of his choice. Scary fact is, the whole world has to face the consequences of his choice......

I do get quite a chuckle out of people boycotting American made goods because they have "French" sounding names.... And don't even get me started on "Freedom Fries" ....... I do want to agree with something WCC said - When you boycott goods, do you think you are hurting the government or the folks who's jobs & livleyhood depend on producing the goods? I don't want to keep Joe Shmo from being able to feed his family, I don't even know what Joe Schmo thinks of the whole mess. I'm guessing he's more worried about keeping his family fed, clothed & sheltered than what his government is or isn't doing for the war......

Will, I thought your post was well-written & I agree. I didn't read that everyone who boycotts is racist & bigoted - What I read is that SOME people who boycott have gone overboard & become racist & bigoted. I also read that innocent folks are getting hurt by it & that should stop.

 

[annemariec]

Originally posted by Miss Jasmine
I can't believe how out of hand this is all getting.

1) Willy J, just because someone boycott's goods from a country or company does not make them a bigot or racist.
2) Being mean to someone from another nation, race, religion or whatever based on one of those reasons does make you a bigot or racist or whatever.
There is a difference between these two things.

I agree with Miss Jasmine. I think there has been a broad brush painted all around.

I'm sorry to see people are hurt and feeling unwanted here too. I hope that stops. I wouldn't state anything that could be hurtful.

I want no part of that.

Annemarie

 

[DawnCt]

Originally posted by WillyJ
Okay, let me ask you this. . .


France decides that invading Outer Mongolia is something they just have to do to protect thier country even though Outer Mongolia has never actually attacked France. . .


.

The difference is WillyJ, France supported the original resolutions to disarm Saddam. Outer Mongolia HAS NOT invaded neighboring countries, Outer Mongolia is not harboring terrorists, Outer Mongolia does not have weapons of mass destruction and further more, Outer Mongolia is not keeping France floating in oil in exchange for military hardware. Good try WillyJ but you failed.

 

[DawnCt]

Originally posted by WillyJ
Nikole, perhaps you should do a little research and see how many UN resolutions the US has vetoed over the years and rethink your answer. . it's in the 1,000's and many have been put forth by France.

.

They are typically resolutions that try to hamstring the United States at the glorification of France. The resolution that France signed onto they failed to uphold. France has an insignificant role in the world right now and they are struggling for one. Much like a teenager who finds themselves in a hole. They don't know enough to put down the shovel and stop digging!

 

[Kelsie]

Originally posted by WebmasterCathyCanada
I think it is sad that here on the DIS, a place I have given my heart and soul to for 5 years, writing content, trying to keep the boards a safe and comfortable place for all and helping to keep it running, I am starting to feel unwelcome.
Cathy

This is supposed to be a war against terrorism, not to create it

I also wonder how we address the large percentage of American's who DO NOT support this war? Just who do we Boycott?

My personal view is that you are free to boycott whom you wish, I will not. But when it comes to 'targeting' and 'stereotyping' people because of where they live, I am truly ashamed.

 

[DawnCt]

Originally posted by Leota
I am an American who thinks that Bush has become very Hitler-esque....Does that make me an enemy of the US?

Hitler-esque???? Better get out your history books. You are missing something. It is Saddam who is Hitler-esque!

 

[damo]

I am so sick and tired of the anti-Canadian crap that is going on here. The American press jumps on every anti-American thing that they can get their hot little hands on and some people just gobble it up hook, line and sinker. However, they choose to ignore any pro-American and anti-Canadian issues that may arise and refuse to believe that it happens. Well, grow up. It goes both ways and I'm sick of hearing how high and mighty some of you guys are.

I think I've had enough of the Community Board and will stick to the Universal Board where things seem to be a little calmer.

 

[caitycaity]

willy and robinrs, i agree.

and i just have to say things like this (below) make me so ANGRY! @#$!

One thing I will say, I guess none of you lost anyone on 9/11.

what the hell does that mean? actually, thank you very much, but i did lose a friend from college in the wtc. i fail to see what that has to do with boycotting france, and i think it is SICK that you would use what happened on 9/11 to try to guilt people, or to make people think that people who lost loved ones on 9/11 have "better" opinions than others. i just don'tunderstand what the point of that is.

 

[Miss Jasmine]

Caity caity, I agree with you. I don't like seeing those statements either. No one on this board really knows what others have gone through. And even then how does it make it more or less for an individual?

 

[Leota]

Well said ,Caity, very well said......

 

[StampMom]

Ditto, Caity. I was trying to figure out how to respond to that post, but you did it for me. Thanks.

 

[JAP]

{{HUGS}} for CC and our other Canadian posters who have been offended here on the CB.

What I gleaned from WillyJ's post was the fact that people on the CB were posting bigoted and racist remarks about folks from France and Canada. I did not get the idea that he was saying anyone who boycotts is bigoted and racist.

DawnCT "Outer Mongolia HAS NOT invaded neighboring countries, Outer Mongolia is not harboring terrorists, Outer Mongolia does not have weapons of mass destruction and further more, Outer Mongolia is not keeping France floating in oil in exchange for military hardware. Good try WillyJ but you failed."

I think you failed Dawn. This was an EXAMPLE not a factual comparison. There is a difference.

I also agree with Robinrs. Very well said Robin.

 

[DawnCt]

Originally posted by JAP
[B
I think you failed Dawn. This was an EXAMPLE not a factual comparison. There is a difference.

I also agree with Robinrs. Very well said Robin. [/B]

Fictitious examples need to have some relevance. The example insinuates that there is no justification for the resumption of hostilities with Iraq. That is just plain wrong!