Food Stamp question

[marmalade]

It's my understanding that the FS contract states when a receipt enters into a certain income bracket anytime in their life the FS's get paid back.

Do you mean by them paying taxes into the system, or do they actually have to send the state a check?

 

[MrsMears]

Also, I am encouraged to hear so many people talk so badly about receiving any kind of welfare, that must mean you don't plan on collecting any SSI Retirement - awesome!

 

[bookmama]

I never really comment on these topics but this irks me. First, it is none of the cashier's business, even if she pays taxes. Two, for people who think that some of us, do note i said us, do not comparison with foodstamps you are so wrong. I comparison shop and coupon. Three, i've worked since i was 13, and right now my ends aren't meeting and foodstamps are a great help. Four, I use my foodstamps to help my mom with groceries because she takes care my niece and nephew and don't get any help. Five, we don't know if tne person got emergency foodstamps or what. Please stop assuming and being judgemental it makes everyone look bad.

 

[MrsMears]

Do you mean by them paying taxes into the system, or do they actually have to send the state a check?

I mean that notification is sent for a repayment plan and if that repayment plan is not answered than your income can be levied to pay the 'loan' offered to you in the form of FS or $ assistance.

 

[marmalade]

I mean that notification is sent for a repayment plan and if that repayment plan is not answered than your income can be levied to pay the 'loan' offered to you in the form of FS or $ assistance.

Interesting, this is the first I have ever heard of this.

 

[KennesawNemo]

Also, I am encouraged to hear so many people talk so badly about receiving any kind of welfare, that must mean you don't plan on collecting any SSI Retirement - awesome!

Is SSI related to how much we pay while we work?

 

[Hannathy]

Interesting, this is the first I have ever heard of this.

I have never heard of this either for food stamps

 

[MrsMears]

Interesting, this is the first I have ever heard of this.

At least in the state of California, when people get any kind of assistance they sign an official contract that states it is a loan and your assets can be levied to pay back the loan. In the early 90's I had gotten pregnant and rec'd assistance in the form of medical and FS's. I lost the baby and dropped off the system. 9 years later I secured a job at 40/K a year and shortly after that rec'd notice of a payment plan since I had hit the income level for repayment. I ignored it and my paychecks were levied until the amount was paid of.

Lastly. (I promise) .. this FS issue is such a tough spot for me since a few years ago while I was a foster mom I faced so much disrespect as a white women using WIC and FS's with two black children. People think they are being "All American" and noble by claiming 'you are spending MY money'. No, I am spending OUR money and I consider myself more of a right fighter and activist than anyone could imagine. I actually meet with my legislative officials and lobby for change (OFTEN). I don't think change is going to happen being loose-jawed counter support at a supermarket. I call them arm chair activists.. you know, they don't actually do anything but b&tch from their creature comforts of home.

 

[MrsMears]

Is SSI related to how much we pay while we work?

Part of it.. where do you think the other part comes from?

 

[KennesawNemo]

Also, I am encouraged to hear so many people talk so badly about receiving any kind of welfare, that must mean you don't plan on collecting any SSI Retirement - awesome!

Part of it.. where do you think the other part comes from?

I am totally just asking a question. Not to debate with anyone at all.

I just never thought SSI will be a form of assistance. I always understood it as a re-payment for what you have paid ealier.

I do undersatnd it was funded by current working population. That's why as society ages, SSI will have sustainabilty issue.

 

[SenecaWolf]

Actually it is Social Security Retirement, not SSI. SSI (Supplemental Security Insurance) is a disability program to low income disabled people.

Social Security Retirement is based on your work history as is SSD (Social Security Disability)

 

[MrsMears]

The US Welfare structure and Social Security Retirement.

http://www.ssa.gov/history/pdf/histdev.pdf.

 

[MrsMears]

I am totally just asking a question. Not to debate with anyone at all.

I just never thought SSI will be a form of assistance. I always understood it as a re-payment for what you have paid ealier.

I do undersatnd it was funded by current working population. That's why as society ages, SSI will have sustainabilty issue.

Debate is a good thing, it's how we get to form ideas, learn new ideas and secure interests and invest in change. It can get cumbersome if debates resort to personal attacks. I really detest personal attacks but have hope the Disney magic will shine through on this thread.

 

[KennesawNemo]

Debate is a good thing, it's how we get to form ideas, learn new ideas and secure interests and invest in change. It can get cumbersome if debates resort to personal attacks. I really detest personal attacks but have hope the Disney magic will shine through on this thread.

I really just saw this thread, clicked into the last page and asked a question........

I think we get personal when we generalize other poeple's comments. There are people getting FS for a good reason and there are people abusing the system. Until we know more, no one should judge.

 

[mom2alix]

I am totally just asking a question. Not to debate with anyone at all.

I just never thought SSI will be a form of assistance. I always understood it as a re-payment for what you have paid ealier.

I do undersatnd it was funded by current working population. That's why as society ages, SSI will have sustainabilty issue.

I'm not sure what is meant by the post you quoted either, but I'll try to help answer your question. Social Security has historically showed a surplus, the crises is that as baby boomers age and retire and the succeeding generations have fewer workers we will be in a deficit situation. Congress has spent the surplus over the past years issuing government bonds backed by the American people, which is basically like we have issued IOUs to ourselves.

Here's an article that explains more...
http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1890542,00.html

 

[KennesawNemo]

I'm not sure what is meant by the post you quoted either, but I'll try to help answer your question. Social Security has historically showed a surplus, the crises is that as baby boomers age and retire and the succeeding generations have fewer workers we will be in a deficit situation. Congress has spent the surplus over the past years issuing government bonds backed by the American people, which is basically like we have issued IOUs to ourselves.

Here's an article that explains more...
http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1890542,00.html

This makes a lot sense to me. Thanks.

 

[mom2alix]

I thought this might be an interesting addition to this discussion:

Here are a couple of charts showing just where your federal tax dollars come from and where they go....

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/budget_pie_gs.php

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/budget-2010/

 

[mks18412]

Also, I am encouraged to hear so many people talk so badly about receiving any kind of welfare, that must mean you don't plan on collecting any SSI Retirement - awesome!

If someone pays into Social Security during their working lifetime then they should get Social Security. Its not an option to give or not, its mandatory..... If someone doesnt work and collects welfare,food stamps, entitlement programs then they should be up the creek without a paddle not getting any retirement benefits.

We are in NOT in an entitlement society (eventhough some people would like to think so.)..... You want something, work for it. Work is like the new four letter word. Not saying everyone on welfare is a moocher. It should be used as a stepping stone.... The government hands out cell phones, medical insurance, and food. Im sure I am leaving out a bit. In all actualility they are not free. Whether someone pays 2% or 30% they are paying. When its time for the working people to collect their Social Security (that they paid into) its going to be gone. Someone has got to pay for all the FREE stuff!!! Sorry but I dont want to pay for someone elses cell phone and/or insurance. I can barely afford my own.

 

[PebblesMom]

I thought this might be an interesting addition to this discussion:

Here are a couple of charts showing just where your federal tax dollars come from and where they go....

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/budget_pie_gs.php

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/budget-2010/

Thanks for posting this! It puts this argument in some perspective. I agree that something needs to be done about abuse of the system, but as a society we also need to know how we are going to care for those who can not care for themselves or those who simply need a helping hand for a short period of time.
Yes some people are lazy and don't want to work, but as a society do we let their children go hungry?
We have had foster Moms on here saying they have gotten "looks" for using food stamps, although I think we could all agree that these children are truly in need and this is NOT an abuse of the system, yet they are still faced with judgement. Why?
I am always seeing outrage about this topic and hear the comments about that being "my" money, but the end of the day, how do we as a society make sure that those who are hungry are fed?
I have paid "my" money into this system for many, many years and I have been thankful I have had schools to go to, well kept roads to drive on, beautiful national parks to visit, elected (and paid) officials who represent me, and the list goes on, but I am also very thankful that I live in a society that values its citizens enough that it would have a system in place to make sure the weakest among us does not go hungry! Then it makes me mad as he** that someone woud take advantage of that!

 

[Colleen27]

Wrong what you do with the money you EARN is your business, what is done with the money taxpayers give is their business. I wish everyone could work a week at a government assistance office or a non-profit and you would see how much the system needs changed.

I worked in one for the last couple years before I became a SAHM, and practically grew up in another because my mom was a case worker and then a supervisor for Wayne County (Detroit) DHS for her entire career. I've seen good and bad (and a lot of improvement over the years, as technology has cut way down on fraud and abuse) but I've yet to see something that makes me think we should be throwing the baby out with the bathwater.