Foo Fighters..AIDS denialists

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This was brought up by me on the Boycott thread...As so many were unaware I figured more people might see it if it gets it's own threads..The FooFighters are AIDS denialists..Among othetr things they believe there is no such disease as AIDS..That people who claim to have AIDS are drug addicts or people who are sick from the AIDS meds...They encourage people Not to get tested for HIV. They pass out literature at their concerts and have links on their web-site to groups that among other things,tell people with AIDS they don't need to have safe sex as there is no such disease as AIDS

Here is one of many articles avaible on the net

News: A platinum-selling alt-rock group may be endangering their fans by promoting a dangerous myth.

By Silja J.A. Talvi

February 25, 2000


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Some rock stars want to free Tibet. Others want to save Mumia. The Foo Fighters, on the other hand, want their fans to ignore accepted medical wisdom about AIDS.

The multimillion-album-selling alternative rock outfit has thrown its weight behind Alive and Well, an "alternative AIDS information group" that denies any link between HIV and AIDS. In January, Foo Fighters bassist Nate Mendel helped organize a sold-out concert in Hollywood to benefit the group. Foo fans were treated to a speech by Alive and Well founder Christine Maggiore, who believes AIDS may be caused by HIV-related medications, anal sex, stress, and drug use, and implies that people should not get tested for HIV nor take medications to counter the virus. Free copies of Maggiore's self-published book, "What If Everything You Thought You Knew About AIDS Was Wrong?," in which she declares "there is no proof that HIV causes AIDS," were also passed out to the concert-goers.

HIV experts are alarmed by the possible impact of the Foo Fighters' embrace of Maggiore's theories on their potentially gullible young fans.

"Clearly, more research is needed on the factors that contribute to HIV infection and the development of AIDS," says Dorcus Crumbley of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's National Center for HIV, STD, and TB Prevention. "However, the conclusions of more than two decades of epidemiologic, virologic, and medical research are that HIV infection is transmissible through sexual contact, injecting drug use, perinatally, and from receiving blood or blood products ... (and) the scientific evidence is overwhelming that HIV is the cause of AIDS."

Adds Crumbley: "The myth that HIV is not the primary cause of AIDS ... could cause (HIV-positive people) to reject treatment critical for their own health and for preventing transmission to others."

"When it comes to such a complex health topic, it behooves the band to have really researched what they are endorsing," says Diane Tanaka, an attending physician at the Children's Hospital of Los Angeles, where she works with a large population of high-risk and HIV-infected low-income youth. "(The Foo Fighters) have a big responsibility in terms of (their) public role and the impact that they can have on young people. Is this band willing to take responsibility for a young person engaging in risky, unprotected sex because of information they've gotten from the (Foo Fighters) or from Alive and Well?"

Alive and Well is one of several fringe groups that deny a link between HIV and AIDS. Similar theories have been put forth over the years by various far-right groups and anti-Semitic conspiracy theorists, and other so-called "HIV-refuseniks."

"Your risk of being hit by lightning is greater than that of contracting HIV through a one-time random sexual contact with someone you don't know here in America," says Maggiore, an HIV-positive Southern California resident with no formal training in medicine or the sciences. "And if (a young person) were to get a positive diagnosis, that does not mean they've been infected with HIV." The HIV-AIDS connection, maintains Maggiore, has been promoted by greedy drug companies.

Mendel says he was won over by Maggiore's book, and passed it around to the rest of the band, which includes former Nirvana drummer Dave Grohl. Mendel says that he would steer anyone considering an HIV antibody test toward Maggiore's group.

"If you test positive, you are pretty much given a bleak outlook and told to take toxic drugs to possibly ward off new infections," says Mendel.

With the other band members on board, Mendel aims to use the Foo Fighters' celebrity to get the message out to a broad audience. The Foo Fighters plan additional benefit shows, and have placed a banner ad on their Web site linking to Alive and Well. Mendel says that he does not have HIV, nor does he have any friends with HIV besides Maggiore, who has remained asymptomatic.

The most recent numbers from the Joint United Nations' HIV/AIDS Program estimate that 16.3 million people worldwide have died of AIDS-related causes since 1981. Medical research in the United States indicates that as many as 25 percent of the nation's estimated 40,000 annual HIV infections occur among 13- to 21-year-olds. Maggiore, however, maintains that worldwide HIV infections and AIDS deaths are exaggerated by the CDC and the World Health Organization, even in regions like sub-Saharan Africa, where two-thirds of the world's HIV-infected people live.

Maggiore's message has apparently penetrated the minds of at least some Foo aficionados. She says she has heard from many Foo fans since the show -- one of whom, she says, now works at the Alive and Well office.

"AIDS is a toxic disease caused by either long-term recreational drug abuse or short-term anti-HIV medications," writes a 22-year-old member of the Alive and Well-affiliated Students Reappraising AIDS on the Foo Fighters' Web-based message board. "HIV is not spread sexually, nor is it the cause of any disease."

Other fans are less impressed. Damian Purdy, a 21-year-old Winnipeg, Canada resident and devoted Foo Fighters fan, is outraged by the band's position. "By supporting this, the Foo Fighters have entered an arena that they have no business being in. The truth is that a rock concert is not the appropriate platform for these views to be expressed. I think the Foo Fighters have more influence than they realize," he says.

For his part, Mendel remains convinced that the media and the medical establishment are keeping the truth about HIV and AIDS from the public. The Foo Fighters, he insists, will continue to use their celebrity to bring "light to the issue."

Is he worried that the group might be endangering the lives of some of its listeners?


"I'm absolutely confident that I'm doing the right thing," Mendel answers. "No, I wouldn't feel responsible for possibly harming somebody. I (feel) I'm doing the opposite
 
Isn't that what the government of Africa believed, and isn't that why there is now and epidemic over there? I could have my facts mixed up though.

I suppose that everyone in entitled to their opinions but when you are in a position to influence so many people you should be more responsible.
 
This is what comes of thinking that everyone is entitled to their opinions :teeth: The simple fact is, unless they are a lot better schooled in pathology and several other medical fields than I think they are, they aren't well enough informed to have an opinion on the veracity of current evidence. It'd be like a third grader commenting on the dangers of nuclear proliferation...they just don't have the knowledge needed to form an informed opinion.

As for the foo fighters...they should have tried to find other work when Cobain died. Like, maybe ditch-digging :rolleyes:
 

Blondy876 said:
Isn't that what the government of Africa believed, and isn't that why there is now and epidemic over there? I could have my facts mixed up though.

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That would be Mbaki of South Africa.
 
They're a bunch of crackpots. I never heard of anything so ridiculous. That reminds me of the people who believe the Holocaust never happened. What's wrong with these nuts?
 
grinningghost said:
They're a bunch of crackpots. I never heard of anything so ridiculous. That reminds me of the people who believe the Holocaust never happened. What's wrong with these nuts?

I second that. Some people are nuts! :confused3
 
grinningghost said:
They're a bunch of crackpots. I never heard of anything so ridiculous. That reminds me of the people who believe the Holocaust never happened. What's wrong with these nuts?

Me thinks they must have smoked pot at some point in their lives.
 
Papa Deuce said:
Me thinks they must have smoked pot at some point in their lives.

Methinks they need brain cell transplants.
 
Since reading this in the other thread, I'd asked my kids if they liked them. Both of them said they did. I will certainly pay attention and make sure we never give a dime to support their band.

This just COMPLETELY blows my mind. Perhaps in the early 80's there might have some misconceptions, but today? Still shaking my head!
 
Papa Deuce said:
Me thinks they must have smoked pot at some point in their lives.

Me thinks something a bit stronger. :rolleyes:
 
Boycotts rarely succeed their intent. Different methods should be examined instead of boycotting.
 
Blondy876 said:
Isn't that what the government of Africa believed, and isn't that why there is now and epidemic over there? I could have my facts mixed up though.

I suppose that everyone in entitled to their opinions but when you are in a position to influence so many people you should be more responsible.

I believe that is their intent. Whether right or wrong.
 
You know, I have met a lot of people in my life, and I have heard many stories and beliefs from these people. I myself, am a free thinker. I let no religion, thought, teaching or belief influence me to think that I or they are wrong at all. I just don't always agree with what is said. It seems that Dave Grohl and the rest of the band have some backing to their claims, and that's all well and good. But as I have learned in my life, no one person knows the full truth. We live one day at a time, just getting by and learning something along the way. I may not agree totally with them, but I'm not going to say they are crazy for thinking that way.

Just my $.02
 
i think their beliefs are pretty stupid, but it doesn't stop me from enjoying or buying their music. i have a lot of friends who believe things i vehemently disagree with, but i am still friends with them. to each his own. i really doubt many people believe this kind of thing just because a rock star said so. and if they do, they have bigger problems. JMO.
 
Just saw the Foo Fighters last night and there was no mention of denying Aids. There was no anti-Aids literature being passed out. The concert was amazing and those guys can rock! :cool1: If anyone gets the chance, go see them. Plus, I woldn't boycott anyone based on a 5 year old article.
 
That's what I wondered too...are they still AIDS denialists? The article was 5 years ago, and they were just in concert this week in Detroit. If any mention of this happened at the concert, all of the DJ's on the radio would have been talking about it...they LOVE stuff like this to get people riled up and calling in.

ReneeA
 


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