Flight with disabled child ?

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Our trip is getting ever closer and I'm panicking a bit because of a thread I'm reading on the family board about kids being separated from parents on flights? Does anyone know if there are any accommodations/ protections under Ada to ensure that dd 11 will not be separate from me (she's pddnos with other disabilities)
 
Title 14 chapter II part 382 of the FAA regulations set out your child's rights to equal accommodations. They are consistent with section 504 of the rehabilitation act (ADA)

For kids with spectrum genetics, it is very common to do a disability preboard, so that they have time to get acclimated and so that the seating location and arrangements will be adequate.
Typically you go the customer service desk in the concourse and get a "slip" that lets the gate agent know that you are preboarding because of a disability (if it is SW then they are typically blue).
relax and have a great flight and trip
bookwormde
 
Our trip is getting ever closer and I'm panicking a bit because of a thread I'm reading on the family board about kids being separated from parents on flights? Does anyone know if there are any accommodations/ protections under Ada to ensure that dd 11 will not be separate from me (she's pddnos with other disabilities)

Get there early. Do as bookwormde mentioned and check about preboarding. Check your flights often and call if there is a change.

And relax!

What usually happens when they get separated is that there is a change in seating due to schedule or plane changes. There is no way the computer (which is what does the rearranging) can know that you can not be separated. So you really have to keep an eye on things. The airlines are not trying to separate people, but it happens. So, by keeping an eye on things and getting there early, you are giving yourself and the airline time to do what needs to be done.
 
Thank you so much! ss382.37 ( I think) addresses seat assignments and clearly protects me being separated from dd d/t me providing services for her the fa cannot. I will def. Sleep better tonight- and I've printed off the relevant sections and highlighted as appropriate ;)
 

This is the actual wording of the Air Carrier Access Act that has to do with seating arrangements - it is about 3/4 of the way down on this link.
Part 382 is very long and much of it has to do with definitions and equipment and then specific things, like how to handle a Service Dog. It goes from page 93 of the link to page 136!

382.3 defines the meaning of a person with a disability:
"Individual with a disability means any individual who has a physical or mental impairment that, on a permanent or temporary basis, substantially limits one or more major life activities, has a record of such an impairment, or is regarded as having such an impairment. As used in this definition, the phrase:
(a) Physical or mental impairment means:
(1) Any physiological disorder or condition, cosmetic disfigurement, or anatomical loss affecting one or more of the following body systems: neurological, musculoskeletal, special sense organs, respiratory including speech organs, cardio-vascular, reproductive, digestive, genito-urinary, hemic and lymphatic, skin, and endocrine; or
(2) Any mental or psychological disorder, such as mental retardation, organic brain syndrome, emotional or mental illness, and specific learning disabilities.
The term physical or mental impairment includes, but is not limited to, such diseases and conditions as orthopedic, visual, speech, and hearing impairments; cerebral palsy, epilepsy, muscular dystrophy, multiple sclerosis, cancer, heart disease, diabetes, mental retardation, emotional illness, drug addiction, and alcoholism.
(b) Major life activities means functions such as caring for one's self, performing manual tasks, walking, seeing, hearing, speaking, breathing, learning, and working.
(c) Has a record of such impairment means has a history of, or has been classified, or misclassified, as having a mental or physical impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities.
(d) Is regarded as having an impairment means: (1) Has a physical or mental impairment that does not substantially limit major life activities but that is treated by an
air carrier as constituting such a limitation;
(2) Has a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits a major life activity only as a result of the attitudes of others toward such an impairment; or
(3) Has none of the impairments set forth in this definition but is treated by an air carrier as having such an impairment.
”

This is the part having to do with seating:
"Subpart F – Seating Accommodations
§382.81 For which passengers must carriers make seating accommodations?
As a carrier, you must provide the following seating accommodations to the following passengers on request, if the passenger self-identifies to you as having a disability specified in this section and the type of seating accommodation in question exists on the particular aircraft. Once the passenger self-identifies to you, you must ensure that the information is recorded and properly transmitted to personnel responsible for providing the accommodation.
(a) For a passenger who uses an aisle chair to access the aircraft and who cannot readily transfer over a fixed aisle armrest, you must provide a seat in a row with a movable aisle armrest. You must ensure that your personnel are trained in the location and proper use of movable aisle armrests, including appropriate transfer techniques. You must ensure that aisle seats with movable armrests are clearly identifiable.
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(b) You must provide an adjoining seat for a person assisting a passenger with a disability in the following circumstances:
(1) When a passenger with a disability is traveling with a personal care attendant who will be performing a function for the individual during the flight that airline personnel are not required to perform (e.g., assistance with eating);
(2) When a passenger with a vision impairment is traveling with a reader/assistant who will be performing functions for the individual during the flight;
(3) When passenger with a hearing impairment is traveling with an interpreter who will be performing functions for the individual during the flight; or
(4) When you require a passenger to travel with a safety assistant (see §382.29).
(c) For a passenger with a disability traveling with a service animal, you must provide, as the passenger requests, either a bulkhead seat or a seat other than a bulkhead seat.
(d) For a passenger with a fused or immobilized leg, you must provide a bulkhead seat or other seat that provides greater legroom than other seats, on the side of an aisle that better accommodates the individual's disability


This part has to do with preboarding:
"§382.93 Must carriers offer preboarding to passengers with a disability?
As a carrier, you must offer preboarding to passengers with a disability who self-identify at the gate as needing additional time or assistance to board, stow accessibility equipment, or be seated."

(SouthWest airline does not have seat assignments; passengers board according to when they checked in for their flight. Guests with disabilities are given a specific ‘sleeve’ or card that enables them to preboard to pick their seats.
Other than that, most airlines do ask passengers with special needs to identify their need to preboard to the agents at the gate.

Pages 113-115 of that document talks about seating assignments.

In general, when you identify yourself as traveling with a person with a disability who needs to sit next to you, they will accommodate you by pre-assigning seats when you make your reservation.
When you get to the airport, if your seats are not together for some reason, tell the agent that you need to have seats re-assigned so you can sit together because you have a child with a disability who can’t sit alone.

That has occasionally happened to us because of changes in equipment. The desk agent can switch seats around - there are always seats that have not been assigned until the day of the flight.
Check with your airline to make sure how early you need to check in; if they say passengers must check in at least an hour ahead of time and you arrive at 45 minutes, there may be little they can do for you.
 
Just remember that ADA is there to ensure equal access, not prefferential. I fly SWA. I know that they provide everybody with an equal opportunity to get low boarding positions so it's my responsibility to do whatever I can to ensure a low boarding position so that I can sit with my daughter who is on the spectrum and my other daughter who is in the process of going through evaluations and may be on the spectrum but also suffers from horrible ear pain and needs an adult with her to cope. They're 13 and 10 (will be 11 when we fly next). I pay for EBCI to ensure good boarding positions. If I don't want to pay for EBCI then I'd be online right at 24 hours checking in. I can't imagine not being able to get seats together doing either of these. If I did everything that any other member of the general public could do to ensure seats together and something happened that didn't result in good enough boarding positions THEN I would approach a gate agent about preboarding. If I flew an airline with assigned seats then I would pay for the seating assignments and keep an eye on the flight arrangement. Only if we lost the seating assignments and couldn't get them re-established together (it happens more than people care to believe) would I bring disability needs to the airline.

Obviously everybody needs to do what they need to do to make flying with somebody who has a disability possible for them and what I do won't work for everybody. I get that. I know we don't need time to get used to the feel of the plane while others do. I know that some kids need to be settled before the plane already had a bunch of people which is something we don't need. Location within the plane is important for some but not for us. I'm just sharing what we do as well as something to think about. If you need to preboard then absolutely do it. I'm just suggesting that people think about what they really need. Just like some parents of autistic kids can do WDW without a GAC (I'd love to get to that point; I'd consider it a HUGE advancement), yet there's no way we can do it (every trip I try to use ours less but we do still need it at this point). Everybody has their own needs. I do consider us lucky that we don't need preboarding for flying. Our only need when flying is to sit together and that's something I have the same opportunity to do as the rest of the general public does.
 
I am not sure what airline you fly, but I know southwest is great about it. My daughter needs to have alot of medical equipment with her at all times. It takes two of us to take care of her in an emergency, so my husband and I have to sit together, with out son also. We always get to the airport early and ask for a preboarding pass at the gate. Sometimes we don't even have to give a reason, just ask for the preboard. Other times we say we have alot of medical equipment and need to sit together, but have never been questioned farther than that. It really is an easy process. Have a great trip!
 
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Southwest isn't an option for us, unfortunately. We have notified both airlines we are flying that we are traveling with a disabled child, we have preselected seats, we will as always arrive on time (most likely early), and we will definitely have a copy of the FAA rules with us. That's pretty much all I can think of at this point to do. I will take some good advice from this thread and relax about it now.
 
Southwest isn't an option for us, unfortunately. We have notified both airlines we are flying that we are traveling with a disabled child, we have preselected seats, we will as always arrive on time (most likely early), and we will definitely have a copy of the FAA rules with us. That's pretty much all I can think of at this point to do. I will take some good advice from this thread and relax about it now.

Arrive early. If something happens, you need to be sure you give them as much time as possible to fix it without holding up the flight in any way. If you get there early, then everyone will be less stressed if something has to be done.

Keep an eye on your reservation. Check it as often as possible for any changes. Do not expect to receive a phone call or email. Often changes will mess up seating selection so you want to know as soon as possible so you can get it fixed.
 
Sometimes a late flight to a connection point can cause problems. You should at least try not to book flights with tight connections.

It is a good idea not to have some other activity earlier in the day of your flight. Unless you are prepared to up and leave that activity should it run longer than expected, to be sure you have really ample time to get to the airport.
 





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