First Visit - Just Back! 7/9-11

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We had a terrific time on our first visit to DLRP! Good, bad and ugly below (forgive me if I re-state the obvious or strike sore points, but these are the things that jumped out at me):

Good:

Disneyland is a beautifully designed park. I cannot say this enough-- it is that huge an aspect of my enjoyment. You can see what improvements were made in the layout in this iteration, and it works well. Lots of wide walkways, alternative routes, and so many lovely scenic vistas within the park. The arcades were wonderful back door exits during parade time. The flower designs were fabulous. I love the taller flowers which gave things a less structured, more natural feel. Great color combinations. Dining spaces are also unique and well designed.

Lots of counter service options at DLP. It seemed like every time I turned a corner, there was another interesting spot.

Pirates, Peter Pan, BTMRR were all improvements over the WDW and DL versions, IMO. I love the little area for Casey Jr. and the Storybook Boats. The RR is the best. :goodvibes

Cast members were quite friendly and fluent in English.

RER transit couldn't be more more convenient.

Princess for a Day was terrific fun. Sophie was lovely to my daughter and her makeover was fabulous!

Excellent: Birthday party at Cafe Mickey! My daughter couldn't have been more thrilled or surprised by the celebration there. I was too, for that matter! Good times. :thumbsup2

Bad:

Phantom Manor was okay, but I felt there were a lot of corners cut aesthetically-- not as tight as the other versions. Don't know why this stands out to me so much.

While I appreciate the open spaces, there seem to be big gaps in Frontierland and Adventureland. They need more rides.

WDS (particularly Toy Story Playland) was maddeningly crowded. TSP is not well-designed to accommodate even moderate crowds.

The hotel situation seems lacking. I only visited the DLH and stayed at HNY. Forgive me for being blunt, but HNY seemed comparable to an All-Star in terms of decor and design materials. DLH felt like a WDW mod. Just lots of cut corners in materials, design and scale. It should have been so much more, IMO, especially being the pricey flagship for the resort. I also had a good amount of black mold on the grout in my HNY shower, which I complained about to no avail. Since we were staying only two nights and had access to the bathroom in a connecting room, I didn't feel the need to change rooms, but it was a complaint I made more than once. Hopefully, they do something about it for the next guest.

The pool situation was irritating, simply for the whole locker room, wristband, towel rigamarole you have to go through to get in the water. Not a huge deal but mildly annoying, especially with the one blatantly rude CM I encountered running the show.

There are some really rude guests. I suppose this is everywhere, but the lack of respect for a queue here is unparalleled, in my experience.

Ugly:

A big issue for me was the astounding condition of the pavement just outside DLP and in Disney Village I mean, if you're traveling with the very old or very young (as I was), it gets downright dicey. In some well-trafficked areas there are huge gouges and gaps of about 2 inches deep, which to me is unacceptable, both aesthetically and in terms of safety.

The garbage in the bushes, flower beds, waterways and on queues is awful. Who are these people who leave trash just anywhere like that? I'm sure people do this in the other parks too, but it seemed to be piling up here.

Smoking. Wow. Just wow. Everywhere.


At the end of the day, despite the negatives, I really did enjoy my visit, and would like to return someday. I would adjust my expectations and hope for improvements, and not spend so much to stay at a deluxe. I'm in Paris for the next 2 weeks, so maybe the spirit will move me to do another day trip.
 
thanks for that :goodvibes, sounds like you enjoyed your stay overall.
 
Sounds like a mixed trip. DLP does have it's flaws but it is stunningly beautiful and is easily the best Magic Kingdom from a design point of view.

It's hard to argue with most of what you've said. I'm a bit surprised of your summary of the Disneyland Hotel. I've stayed in WDW deluxe resorts and found that the DLH to be much better. It's just a shame it costs so much!
 
Sounds like a mixed trip. DLP does have it's flaws but it is stunningly beautiful and is easily the best Magic Kingdom from a design point of view.

It's hard to argue with most of what you've said. I'm a bit surprised of your summary of the Disneyland Hotel. I've stayed in WDW deluxe resorts and found that the DLH to be much better. It's just a shame it costs so much!

In my mental assessment, I was trying to compare apples to apples, flagship to flagship, and the GF to me is far and away more impressive. Having stayed at other WDW and DL deluxe resorts (GF, Poly, CR, WL, BW, GC) and visited all, I think the decor materials, design and realization of a theme is much more well done. I don't know... the DLH seemed stripped down, for lack of a better expression, a la a WDW mod, although probably as a guest in a room it would feel more up market and the luxury features would be more apparent. You can't beat the location, that's for sure. As I said, I was only a visitor there, so I didn't get beyond the lobby and shops. I expected the DLH to be comparable to the GF in terms of luxury feel, and to me, it just didn't get there. YMMV, of course. JMO. At any rate, I wouldn't turn down a stay there, if offered. :)
 

We had a terrific time on our first visit to DLRP! Good, bad and ugly below (forgive me if I re-state the obvious or strike sore points, but these are the things that jumped out at me):

Good:

Disneyland is a beautifully designed park. I cannot say this enough-- it is that huge an aspect of my enjoyment. You can see what improvements were made in the layout in this iteration, and it works well. Lots of wide walkways, alternative routes, and so many lovely scenic vistas within the park. The arcades were wonderful back door exits during parade time. The flower designs were fabulous. I love the taller flowers which gave things a less structured, more natural feel. Great color combinations. Dining spaces are also unique and well designed.

Lots of counter service options at DLP. It seemed like every time I turned a corner, there was another interesting spot.

Pirates, Peter Pan, BTMRR were all improvements over the WDW and DL versions, IMO. I love the little area for Casey Jr. and the Storybook Boats. The RR is the best. :goodvibes

Cast members were quite friendly and fluent in English.

RER transit couldn't be more more convenient.

Princess for a Day was terrific fun. Sophie was lovely to my daughter and her makeover was fabulous!

Excellent: Birthday party at Cafe Mickey! My daughter couldn't have been more thrilled or surprised by the celebration there. I was too, for that matter! Good times. :thumbsup2

Bad:

Phantom Manor was okay, but I felt there were a lot of corners cut aesthetically-- not as tight as the other versions. Don't know why this stands out to me so much.

While I appreciate the open spaces, there seem to be big gaps in Frontierland and Adventureland. They need more rides.

WDS (particularly Toy Story Playland) was maddeningly crowded. TSP is not well-designed to accommodate even moderate crowds.

The hotel situation seems lacking. I only visited the DLH and stayed at HNY. Forgive me for being blunt, but HNY seemed comparable to an All-Star in terms of decor and design materials. DLH felt like a WDW mod. Just lots of cut corners in materials, design and scale. It should have been so much more, IMO, especially being the pricey flagship for the resort. I also had a good amount of black mold on the grout in my HNY shower, which I complained about to no avail. Since we were staying only two nights and had access to the bathroom in a connecting room, I didn't feel the need to change rooms, but it was a complaint I made more than once. Hopefully, they do something about it for the next guest.

The pool situation was irritating, simply for the whole locker room, wristband, towel rigamarole you have to go through to get in the water. Not a huge deal but mildly annoying, especially with the one blatantly rude CM I encountered running the show.

There are some really rude guests. I suppose this is everywhere, but the lack of respect for a queue here is unparalleled, in my experience.

Ugly:

A big issue for me was the astounding condition of the pavement just outside DLP and in Disney Village I mean, if you're traveling with the very old or very young (as I was), it gets downright dicey. In some well-trafficked areas there are huge gouges and gaps of about 2 inches deep, which to me is unacceptable, both aesthetically and in terms of safety.

The garbage in the bushes, flower beds, waterways and on queues is awful. Who are these people who leave trash just anywhere like that? I'm sure people do this in the other parks too, but it seemed to be piling up here.

Smoking. Wow. Just wow. Everywhere.


At the end of the day, despite the negatives, I really did enjoy my visit, and would like to return someday. I would adjust my expectations and hope for improvements, and not spend so much to stay at a deluxe. I'm in Paris for the next 2 weeks, so maybe the spirit will move me to do another day trip.

Welcome to Europe! dont even think of coming over to the Uk its 30 times as as dirty! Ie a dump
 
Glad you had a great time :goodvibes it really is a beautifully designed park, isn't it.

Toy Story Playland only opened at the end of last summer so I think it's first port of call on everyone's Studios list at the moment!!
 
what is the pool, wristband thing? this will be our first time in a dis hotel, so want to know what to expect.

sian x
 
So am I.
We had a terrific time on our first visit to DLRP!

The sentence above is the important one for me. :thumbsup2 We all work and save hard for our holidays and I feel sad for people who don't have an enjoyable time.
 
How would you rate the crowds? What was the average wait for PP, POC, HM, BTM, SP? Are crowds still reasonable during the week?
 
How would you rate the crowds? What was the average wait for PP, POC, HM, BTM, SP? Are crowds still reasonable during the week?

It was busy last weekend. It felt crowded. Average peak waits as I saw/experienced them were: PP - 45 min., POC - 15 min., HM - 30 min., BTM - 90 min., and as for SP (SM?) - I only did it during EMH when it was a walk-on, didn't see regular wait times.

EMHs were key for Fantasyland and Discoveryland. I have to say that I was disappointed that Adventureland and Frontierland were closed during EMH.

After the weekend, I was there only on Monday until 3, so I can't really say what the weekdays would be like, but it seemed slightly better, although still busy.

More than DL, DS seemed packed on the weekend. I'm guessing because the park is smaller, but it really felt shoulder to shoulder, and I didn't get to do as much as I wanted there.
 







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