We live in a rural town in a subdivision with many houses. There were about five houses in the subdivision (including ours) out of about 30 houses setting off fireworks on the 4th. People were out watching and clapping. No damage done to any other properties or vehicles. It can be done safely and with intelligence.
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I mean is anyone saying that your neighbor is actually intending to burn your house down (or theirs for that matter)? Building a strong sense of community is awesome, it's why there's often activities and such in places like HOAs but what do you think the opinion would be if an errant firework or ember causes damage to HOA property and now people have to pay up to fix it or if someone gets injured or worse? Or what if some damage happens to someone's home and that homeowner sues the HOA? That works the same without an HOA too. Not to mention liability insurance doesn't usually cover illegal activities (assuming the show was not done in a legal way). Most people don't think about the what ifs and most people would be unprepared for the financial consequences (and that may not be the only consequence).
But there are MANY, MANY activities that have inherent risks. As I mentioned before, mowing the lawn and working on a ladder. Heck, there are inherent risks when just playing sports. If you (general) want to remove everything that has an inherent risk, we'll all just be sitting in homes 24/7/365. That's my point. Are the risks of fireworks that much more than mowing the lawn? Why? When you're not doing so in a safe manner. That applies to fireworks, mowing the lawn, working on a ladder, etc.
I know bc I asked.... I know, bc they say they haven't. And pretty sure they all knew the last 3 nights there would be fireworks because it's the same complaints every year. It's the one weekend in town it's allowed so you know it's going to happen every night. If you do all the things and your dogs are still scared, I'm sorry, maybe try other alternatives. There are lots of other meds you can use. If you do none of those things, like these people admitted, well then, shame on you. But also you don't get to expect everyone to cater to your dogs needs. That's not how the world works. Also I kind of feel like you should be prepared the week before and after that this is going to happen some. It's part of living in a community. People around you are going to make noise and are going to do things you might not like. If they aren't doing it maliciously to purposely annoy you or cause harm and its legal, then why waste the energy being angry. Those "yahoos" are allowed to make the noises. This is one of the reasons I no longer live in town. I didn't like having to deal with the things that come with living in close proximity to others, so I moved.
Respectfully these are such different things it's not even funny. Like who associates risk like this with sucking the fun out
That’s simply not true.
Fireworks aren't safe period. Professional shows have their own risks (have you not seen when things go bad?). However, professional shows usually carry more restrictions including licensing, insurance policies a lot of times, training and more. The professional fireworks show I watched on 4th of July you better believe if they damaged the buildings in the office park where it's located at they would be on the hook for it. The problem with conversations (and not just speaking about your comment) is people default to "well everything carries risk so so what". It's an all or nothing conversation of extremes one I prefer not to engage in further.
Most of us are talking about illegal fireworks set off in densely populated neighborhoods. You really think the guy who went across county lines to spend his mortgage on them knowing what he is doing is illegal and breaking all sorts of laws is going to have a reasonable conversation with me? Like he’s going to say, “You know, you’re right. I spent over a thousand bucks on these but I’m going to scrap the plan because it might burn your house down.” He’s going to tell me to get bent to put it nicely. And the HOA/Community has zero to do with it. It’s illegal. No one in their right mind would okay it.
I don't think Art cares. He seems to be in it for the reaction most times.
Are you being purposely obtuse? You took my post and made it about you. I specifically said I was talking about facebook friends who I knew did not do anything to help their dogs ahead of time. You chose to make it about what you did and ask how I knew "these people" didn't do anything to help their dogs and I told you how I knew. I knew bc I asked. Shame on THEM for not doing anything. This wasn't about you in any way until you made it about you. I'm sorry you haven't been able to find something that works for your dogs. But in the circumstance that I was talking about it IS legal and they DID NOT do anything to help their dogs ahead of time and DID know this would be happening. Not sure why you're so upset with me.
The difference is, if I’m playing a sport, mowing the lawn, working on a ladder, or setting off fireworks then I’m choosing to engage in those activities in a manner that I deem safe and am accepting any risk to myself. If my neighbor is playing a sport, mowing the lawn, or working on a ladder then he is accepting those risks for himself. However, if he’s shooting off fireworks feet away from my house, he’s now putting me at risk, too. I’m not choosing to engage in that activity. I have no control over what, if any, safety measures he’s taking. All I can do is sit in my home and hope my roof doesn’t catch fire. It’s one thing to accept risks for yourself, it’s another to impose risks on unwilling participants.
