Federal court sides with Disney in lead das lawsuit

[disney david]

http://www.wdwinfo.com/news-stories/federal-court-rules-for-disney-in-lead-dasautism-lawsuit/

 

[aaarcher86]

Wow. Big win there.

 

[minnie mum]

It will be interesting to see ( specially since the court awarded costs to Disney) if this results in some of the other pending suits to withdraw.

 

[minorthr]

I wonder if it will also change Disney's attitude with make the accommodations on a per case basis and just say well the court says this is good enough. They have helped us out in the past and without that I'm not sure we would be able to do WDW anymore.

 

[wilkeliza]

I wonder if it will also change Disney's attitude with make the accommodations on a per case basis and just say well the court says this is good enough. They have helped us out in the past and without that I'm not sure we would be able to do WDW anymore.

Seeing as they specifically mentioned readmit passes I imagine Disney wills till continue to go above and beyond on a case by case basis. Technically the readmits and other extras they have offered some on top of the DAS are not required but I also don't see that going away. Now I can imagine that they might say that an AP may not be able to receive them every single time but here and there or something like that.

 

[Mrsjvb]

I wonder if it will also change Disney's attitude with make the accommodations on a per case basis and just say well the court says this is good enough. They have helped us out in the past and without that I'm not sure we would be able to do WDW anymore.

see the thing is some people just need to accept that certain things are no longer possible. I have had to give up many rides that I formerly could do but are no longer in the cards. some things CANNOT be accommodated no matter how much you stamp your feet and cry discrimination. and no body is entitled to the exact accommodation they demand.

 

[Shanti]

My son is autistic, and I completely agree with Disney on this case. This child's parents aren't doing him any favors by indulging his every demand at the parks (the rides have to be ridden in a certain order, with no wait at all, they claim), and crying discrimination if the rest of the world doesn't do likewise. They're not helping the child learn how to cope in the world.

I'm actually glad that Disney won't do that, because it's harmful for an autistic child to be constantly indulged in his desire for an unchanging, self-selected routine. Therapists tell parents to put limits on that, and these parents are not instilling any limits. They have no business turning around and blaming Disney.

 

[Aladora]

My son is autistic, and I completely agree with Disney on this case. This child's parents aren't doing him any favors by indulging his every demand at the parks (the rides have to be ridden in a certain order, with no wait at all, they claim), and crying discrimination if the rest of the world doesn't do likewise. They're not helping the child learn how to cope in the world.

I'm actually glad that Disney won't do that, because it's harmful for an autistic child to be constantly indulged in his desire for an unchanging, self-selected routine. Therapists tell parents to put limits on that, and these parents are not instilling any limits. They have no business turning around and blaming Disney.

I could not agree more and like you, I also have a child with autism.

 

[Maggie'sMom]

My son is autistic, and I completely agree with Disney on this case. This child's parents aren't doing him any favors by indulging his every demand at the parks (the rides have to be ridden in a certain order, with no wait at all, they claim), and crying discrimination if the rest of the world doesn't do likewise. They're not helping the child learn how to cope in the world.

I'm actually glad that Disney won't do that, because it's harmful for an autistic child to be constantly indulged in his desire for an unchanging, self-selected routine. Therapists tell parents to put limits on that, and these parents are not instilling any limits. They have no business turning around and blaming Disney.

I also have a child with autism and agree with you completely.

 

[aaarcher86]

I feel like ReAds are already less prevalent than they were in the beginning.

I'm interested to see if other plaintiffs stick it out or drop with this ruling.

 

[TheRustyScupper]

1) I fully agree with the decision.
2) ADA and DAS allow ACCESS, not EXCESS.
3) There is no reason why the child should have privileges not accorded to other kids.
4) If the kid got immediate access, other children waiting might have a meltdown if by-passed?

 

[aaarcher86]

“The Clerk is directed to enter judgment providing that Plaintiff shall recover nothing on his claims and that Defendant shall recover costs from Plaintiff,” U.S. District Judge Anne Conway ordered on Thursday, granting Disney’s motion for summary judgment and closing plaintiffs A.L. and D.L.’s case.

Heck no. I'd drop my case so fast...

 

[TheZue]

Add another parent to a kid with autism that agrees. We had no idea that the GAC existed when we went and honestly I'm not sure my child would have the ability to wait in lines without Disney. I'm thankful we didn't know about it. He had to learn to keep it together if he wanted to ride the tea cups, and he REALLY wanted to ride the tea cups as often as possible. This was a kid that couldn't deal with lines to wash his hands at school, like it was a serious problem for him. It also motivated me to actively teach him about lines, I'd seek them out before trips at the mall just to practice. Again had I known about the GAC that would have been the obvious and completely justified way to go; and I'm thankful we didn't take it.

 

[leonb]

My son is autistic, and I completely agree with Disney on this case. This child's parents aren't doing him any favors by indulging his every demand at the parks (the rides have to be ridden in a certain order, with no wait at all, they claim), and crying discrimination if the rest of the world doesn't do likewise. They're not helping the child learn how to cope in the world.

I'm actually glad that Disney won't do that, because it's harmful for an autistic child to be constantly indulged in his desire for an unchanging, self-selected routine. Therapists tell parents to put limits on that, and these parents are not instilling any limits. They have no business turning around and blaming Disney.

I am autistic, and I agree.

 

[SMD]

I feel like ReAds are already less prevalent than they were in the beginning.

I'm interested to see if other plaintiffs stick it out or drop with this ruling.

At DLR ReAds are paperless now. It's almost impossible to tell if someone is using a DAS return, mobility return or ReAds unless the CM says something after scanning their ticket. They could be more like the arrow stamp was for years, and just be something people aren't talking about to try to keep the benefit for themselves.

 

[aaarcher86]

At DLR ReAds are paperless now. It's almost impossible to tell if someone is using a DAS return, mobility return or ReAds unless the CM says something after scanning their ticket. They could be more like the arrow stamp was for years, and just be something people aren't talking about to try to keep the benefit for themselves.

I don't know about DL, just WDW.

I doubt people are keeping quiet about it though. Never have with anything else. I've seen a lot of complaints about not getting them from people who did before.

 

[nyrebecca]

My son is autistic, and I completely agree with Disney on this case. This child's parents aren't doing him any favors by indulging his every demand at the parks (the rides have to be ridden in a certain order, with no wait at all, they claim), and crying discrimination if the rest of the world doesn't do likewise. They're not helping the child learn how to cope in the world.

I'm actually glad that Disney won't do that, because it's harmful for an autistic child to be constantly indulged in his desire for an unchanging, self-selected routine. Therapists tell parents to put limits on that, and these parents are not instilling any limits. They have no business turning around and blaming Disney.

My 17 year old son has Autism and I fully agree with your statements. The only routine in our house is to NOT have a routine LOL. If I notice my son starting to get into a specific gotta have it this way routine we break that habit fast. Disney, giving return times has helped my son learn how to tell time better, and has also helped him learn to wait. He may not want to, but he has grasped the idea of needing to.

 

[ChloroformSdxn]

I really, really like the current program (DAS at Disneyland.) I can see where, if we had gone to Disneyland when they still had the old program, it would be a hard adjustment for my kid to make, and that would suck.

BUT... even with the current program, I don't want him on it forever. Yeah, it's nice, but I like it for helping him and I would really like him to be able to stand in a regular line. The first visit we used it a lot, but we try and get on longer and longer lines as he matures and learns. We also make a point of going during off season if we are able to (granted, this will be more difficult as he progresses through school), and going into the parks first thing. The DAS is fantastic, and we wouldn't be able to do the parks without it, but we use it as a tool.

 

[Disneylvr]

My 13 yr old daughter has severe, non-verbal autism. We are former GAC and current DAS users. DAS in combination with FP+ has worked very well for her and we have even stood in a few longer standby lines for practice. We are DAS supporters and I appreciate the privacy it gives my daughter and us as a family unlike the paper GAC and original DAS.

 

[Kuch1000]

My 7 year-old son has ASD, and add me to the list of those agreeing with the ruling. We used DAS at WDW last December and were very thankful for it. We also worked on having him wait in line when the wait was < 25 minutes or so to build his tolerance. It's a fair system, and seems like it would be less likely to be abused than the GAC system.