FCC, 2 cruises, & onboard credit... will this work?

[cmarsh31]

Going to try to make this short. 2020 cruise was canceled. Got 125% FCC. Booked (eventually after multiple cancelations) Feb 2022 Fantasy, then Aug 2022 Wish. Due to many factors... and a great VGT rate, both cruises are fully paid off, with a rather substantial FCC left. Great. Excursions, Palo, Remy, shopping! However, I can't really use it ALL on Feb - and I'd like to "save" some of it to use in Aug - except it will convert to OBC 7 days before Feb and be non-refundable.

Can I book a "throwaway" cruise for after Feb, pay the deposit with the amount of FCC I want to "save", then just cancel that after we cruise in Feb and have it to use on the Wish (as long as it's outside of the final payment/cancelation"?

 

[tinytilly]

That's exactly what my travel agent is having me do with ours. We are pretty much in the same situation as you. Just make sure you book a cruise far enough out that you can cancel without any problems.

 

[50Disney1971]

We did the same thing and the Disney agent on the phone said it was no problem.

 

[cmarsh31]

We did the same thing and the Disney agent on the phone said it was no problem.

THANKS!

 

[cmarsh31]

That's exactly what my travel agent is having me do with ours. We are pretty much in the same situation as you. Just make sure you book a cruise far enough out that you can cancel without any problems.

Thank you! Booked it for August. Will cancel in February!

 

[MomOTwins]

I don’t think that is correct. As this recent post from another thread shows (see asterisks portion of the email), FCC that is rolled over to a second sailing becomes non-refundable after the first sailing. Can’t find the thread but someone else recently posted they tried to cancel a second sailing that used “leftover” FCC and were told they would forfeit that portion of the cruise fare if they cancelled.

The left over FCC can be applied to another cruise, or it converts to OBB 7 days out. This was the email they sent me a few weeks ago.View attachment 640816View attachment 640816View attachment 640816

 

[MomOTwins]

I don’t think that is correct. As this recent post from another thread shows (see asterisks portion of the email), FCC that is rolled over to a second sailing becomes non-refundable after the first sailing. Can’t find the thread but someone else recently posted they tried to cancel a second sailing that used “leftover” FCC and were told they would forfeit that portion of the cruise fare if they cancelled.

Following up on my first post because I found that other thread I mentioned where the person learned their FCC had become nonrefundable after the first cruise:

We had FCC. I applied some to a cruise we just took last month, and the rest to an Alaska cruise later this year. We have decided to cancel the Alaska cruise and will try again for that one in 2023. But now my FCCs are tied up in there. We will not be cruising again on Disney before the September deadline to use those credits. The person I just spoke to told me the FCC would not be refunded because it would have been converted to a non-refundable onboard credit. I will be calling back tomorrow to see if this is really the case.

I understand the extra 25% is not refundable, but the amount I actually paid? This seems outrageous. Somehow the act of splitting the credit to different sailings changed this to be non-refundable?

Hoping for a better answer tomorrow!

 

[MoonFaerie]

I don’t think that is correct. As this recent post from another thread shows (see asterisks portion of the email), FCC that is rolled over to a second sailing becomes non-refundable after the first sailing. Can’t find the thread but someone else recently posted they tried to cancel a second sailing that used “leftover” FCC and were told they would forfeit that portion of the cruise fare if they cancelled.

Well it's the email Disney sent me on Dec 30, so if it's not correct, then *shrug* I don't know what to say. As of 3 weeks ago, I could have moved that leftover money to a future cruise. It will become OBC on Monday, 7 days before my cruise.

 

[lanejudy]

I don’t think that is correct. As this recent post from another thread shows (see asterisks portion of the email), FCC that is rolled over to a second sailing becomes non-refundable after the first sailing. Can’t find the thread but someone else recently posted they tried to cancel a second sailing that used “leftover” FCC and were told they would forfeit that portion of the cruise fare if they cancelled.

I think the difference is this poster isn't look for a cash back refund; this poster wants to use the amount from the cancelled deposit as OBC on their 2nd cruise. The poster in that other thread wanted a refund. I would think it could revert to onboard credit but admittedly I haven't read of anyone doing so. The FCC has created some really murky waters...

 

[MomOTwins]

Well it's the email Disney sent me on Dec 30, so if it's not correct, then *shrug* I don't know what to say. As of 3 weeks ago, I could have moved that leftover money to a future cruise. It will become OBC on Monday, 7 days before my cruise.

The email is correct, I’m saying I don’t think it is correct you can use it to book a “throwaway” cruise and then get your money back if you cancel the the throwaway cruise. If it is non-refundable and non-transferable, I would expect that means that once the throwaway cruise is cancelled, the money is gone.

I think the difference is this poster isn't look for a cash back refund; this poster wants to use the amount from the cancelled deposit as OBC on their 2nd cruise. The poster in that other thread wanted a refund. I would think it could revert to onboard credit but admittedly I haven't read of anyone doing so. The FCC has created some really murky waters...

But how does it get attached to the Wish cruise as OBC when it is on some “throwaway” cruise that is cancelled?

 

[cmarsh31]

The email is correct, I’m saying I don’t think it is correct you can use it to book a “throwaway” cruise and then get your money back if you cancel the the throwaway cruise. If it is non-refundable and non-transferable, I would expect that means that once the throwaway cruise is cancelled, the money is gone.



But how does it get attached to the Wish cruise as OBC when it is on some “throwaway” cruise that is cancelled?

I don't want it back in cash, and I would cancel the "throwaway" as soon as we finished the 1st cruise, so then it would be FCC in my CC account again. One of my excursions was just canceled on top of everything else, so I'm trying to find a way to spend the $ that I paid, back in March 2020 for a cruise. I don't even care if I lose a couple hundred $ (ok, I can just spend that on stuff on board, no problem...) but right now we're looking at thousands that I could at least use on the Wish cruise for excursions etc.

 

[MomOTwins]

I don't want it back in cash, and I would cancel the "throwaway" as soon as we finished the 1st cruise, so then it would be FCC in my CC account again. One of my excursions was just canceled on top of everything else, so I'm trying to find a way to spend the $ that I paid, back in March 2020 for a cruise. I don't even care if I lose a couple hundred $ (ok, I can just spend that on stuff on board, no problem...) but right now we're looking at thousands that I could at least use on the Wish cruise for excursions etc.

But then it is still just disembodied FCC that can be used to book another cruise but can’t be applied to an existing reservation, right? So how do you get to use it on the Wish?

 

[cmarsh31]

But then it is still just disembodied FCC that can be used to book another cruise but can’t be applied to an existing reservation, right? So how do you get to use it on the Wish?

Any unused FCC ends up as OBC on the cruise. That's the current issue I have $XXXX of FCC that will all be applied as OBC to my Feb cruise, 7 days before sailing. Once it's converted from FCC to OBC, it's non-refundable and expires at the end of the Feb cruise. So, if it's not floating around as FCC in Feb, then it won't become OBC. Once I release/cancel the booking, it will be FCC again and then applied as OBC to the Wish in August.

 

[lanejudy]

But how does it get attached to the Wish cruise as OBC when it is on some “throwaway” cruise that is cancelled?

My understanding is when the "throwaway" cruise is canceled, the FCC from that will revert back to the OP's account with DCL. If not used before they sail on the Wish in August, it should automatically revert to OBC for that cruise. At the moment it will automatically revert to OBC on the Feb. cruise but OP wants to use it in August instead. I think it will work, but as I mentioned, I haven't read any reports of this yet.

 

[cmarsh31]

My understanding is when the "throwaway" cruise is canceled, the FCC from that will revert back to the OP's account with DCL. If not used before they sail on the Wish in August, it should automatically revert to OBC for that cruise. At the moment it will automatically revert to OBC on the Feb. cruise but OP wants to use it in August instead. I think it will work, but as I mentioned, I haven't read any reports of this yet.

That's where I am too - I *think* it will work... but basically, the situation has never occurred prior to 2020 and is probably pretty rare now. I guess I'll take my chances. I'm not even moving all of it - just about a third. I've calculated everything, transfers & gratuities on both cruises are paid, even the Large Wifi package for 7 days, unlimited photo package, an upgraded massage for me! If we could score a cabana on Castaway Cay that would help!

 

[MomOTwins]

My understanding is when the "throwaway" cruise is canceled, the FCC from that will revert back to the OP's account with DCL. If not used before they sail on the Wish in August, it should automatically revert to OBC for that cruise. At the moment it will automatically revert to OBC on the Feb. cruise but OP wants to use it in August instead. I think it will work, but as I mentioned, I haven't read any reports of this yet.

I think a lot of frequent cruisers would be pretty furious if DCL were automatically converting any unused FCC in their account to nonrefundable OBC every time they went on a cruise. The way it has always been explained to me is that FCC stays in your account until you book a sailing with it or it expires.

 

[cmarsh31]

I think a lot of frequent cruisers would be pretty furious if DCL were automatically converting any unused FCC in their account to nonrefundable OBC every time they went on a cruise. The way it has always been explained to me is that FCC stays in your account until you book a sailing with it or it expires.

This is what the email says:

 

[cmarsh31]

I think a lot of frequent cruisers would be pretty furious if DCL were automatically converting any unused FCC in their account to nonrefundable OBC every time they went on a cruise. The way it has always been explained to me is that FCC stays in your account until you book a sailing with it or it expires.

 

[MomOTwins]

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And this is an email you got for FCC that was NOT already applied to your upcoming sailing or that was applied toward the cruise fare but not completely used up? I had thought it was the latter but if not I stand corrected.

 

[cmarsh31]

And this is an email you got for FCC that was NOT already applied to your upcoming sailing or that was applied toward the cruise fare but not completely used up? I had thought it was the latter but if not I stand corrected.

Yup, the totals were what was left as FCC after paying off both this cruise and my August Wish cruise. Email was received yesterday. It's definitely rough if people aren't paying attention and think that whatever they don't use on their first cruise will still be available on later cruises or to use later for a deposit!