Fastpass question....

[RMulieri]

If you get a fastpass that says between 115 and 215pm, can you go later...like after 7pm? Has anyone had a CM turn them away due to the time expiring on their fastpass? TIA>

I asked this earlier and was surprised to hear that it is allowed.(pleased though)I am one of those unfortunate rejects who got turned away from Splashfor missing my "window" for 15 mins.I think it depends on how busy it is and who the CM is...probably will try this in Sept to see if it works..

 

[stepnut]

I use the FP system just as it's designed...I keep to my 2 hour window. It bugs me that people intentionally don't because how can the system be reliable enough to spread the crowd if people don't use it correctly? It's not fair to the people who use it correctly. The FP's distribution is calculated based on people returning at the right time. When they don't return in thier window, the crowd level is skewed, and people wait longer than they should or expected to.

It bugs me. I think it's selfish and inconsiderate. I wish CM's would enforce the window policy.

 

[Robo]

I use the FP system just as it's designed...I keep to my 2 hour window. It bugs me that people intentionally don't because how can the system be reliable enough to spread the crowd if people don't use it correctly? It's not fair to the people who use it correctly. The FP's distribution is calculated based on people returning at the right time. When they don't return in thier window, the crowd level is skewed, and people wait longer than they should or expected to.

It bugs me. I think it's selfish and inconsiderate. I wish CM's would enforce the window policy.

If you are among those who think trying to use a FP "late" (expired, in the same day) will "clog" the FP Return queues...

Here are some FP numbers to play with.

Let's assume a given round number of FP Distributed for Big Thunder Mountain (100 FP's given out).

35 will be used at the beginning (within the first 5 minutes) of the Return Time "window."

40 will be used at some later time, but still within in the specified Return Time "window."

15 will be used outside (later than) the specified Return Time "window."

10 will be pocketed and never used (guests got busy elsewhere, left the park, etc.)

Those not ever using FP and those using FP outside the window (late) can virtually cancel-out each other in the FP waiting-line.

'Jockey' any of those numbers a bit, if you like, but they should be very close.

The FP system works very well, and with proper "policing" by CM's (if the FP lines do get "too long" during a busy run-like Soarin' or EE- they can refuse a "late" FP at that time) the lines move along quite nicely.

It works well mainly because a FP can only used ONE TIME per ticket.

Its not possible to severely clog the FP line using "expired" FP's because once you USE it, its gone.
If you use it INSIDE the window, its gone (can't use it then outside the window).
If you use it OUTSIDE the window, its gone (didn't use it then inside the window).

One person, one FP ride.
So WHEN you choose to use it is largely (mathmatically) unimportant.

Consider this.
The new YoaMD "Dream FP" is a "universal" FP, that is given to selected families and can be used by the holder for one FP ride, per FP attraction, at any time of day.
That doesn't seem to clog the FP line.

 

[MARY-IN-OH]

Has anyone ever done this?

The scenario...Family is sleeping in and then going swimming at the resort, one family member grabs all the tickets and heads to park for fastpasses to use later on when the family goes to the park.

Does the fastpass machine care that the others in your party have not physically entered the park yet?
thats all,
thanks!
-mary

 

[Robo]

Does the fastpass machine care that the others in your party have not physically entered the park yet?
-mary

Yes.

You can't get FP using park tickets that have not been "scanned in" at that park's gate that day.

 

[MARY-IN-OH]

Yes.

You can't get FP using park tickets that have not been "scanned in" at that park's gate that day.

got it, thanks for the quick answer!
-mary

 

[BamaFan121s]

I use the FP system just as it's designed...I keep to my 2 hour window. It bugs me that people intentionally don't because how can the system be reliable enough to spread the crowd if people don't use it correctly?

Although I don't feel as strongly about it as you do, I agree with you to an extent. Throw any numbers you want out there, my mind reasons the situation as: If enough people are saving up FPs until the end of the day, it's going to increase the wait time. Seems like a simple idea...if you have the FPers w/in the window, the FPers who stock piled them all day, the stand by line, and the single rider line all trying to get in, that's alot of dang people.
That being said, I can't imagine that the number of ppl doing this could be that great that it would make that much of a difference.

To be perfectly honest, it has been a long time since I counted on the FP system to begin with. Seems like lately if you don't get one within the first few hours of the park opening, they are gone and you are SOL for the day anyway.

 

[Robo]

...That being said, I can't imagine that the number of ppl doing this could be that great that it would make that much of a difference...

That's what the math I posted was all about.

MOST people take the FP because they want to ride SOONER.

The ones who do otherwise are too few to matter.

 

[BamaFan121s]

That's what the math I posted was all about.

MOST people take the FP because they want to ride SOONER.

The ones who do otherwise are too few to matter.

All of which is theory and speculation in the end...because who REALLY knows when what is being used and what most people do.
And it may be the case now...but I can bet if it continues and more and more people tend to go this route, then the return times WILL be strictly enforced--it not being done so already leads me to draw the conclusion that it's not that common, but I could easily see how it could become one.

 

[stepnut]

I'm still bothered by it, regardless of the numbers. It's a heart attitude that says "Rules are for everyone else except me. I'm special and I don't do rules."

That's what bugs me.

 

[BamaFan121s]

I'm still bothered by it, regardless of the numbers. It's a heart attitude that says "Rules are for everyone else except me. I'm special and I don't do rules."

FPs aside...you see ALOT of that these days...both in Disney and elsewhere...drives me nuts too! I loathe people who think they are above the rules and that their time and motivations are more important than those of others.

 

[ntsammy5]

Horse hockey!

I played that once, but I wasn't any good at it!

 

[Robo]

I played that once, but I wasn't any good at it!

Horse Hockey (or more correctly, Polo) was the sport-of-choice for the adult Walt Disney.

Hey, if 'twas good enough for Uncle Walt...

 

[POB14]

Robo Johnson is right!

And for that response, I offer you a laurel . . . and hearty handshake!

 

[Robo]

And for that response, I offer you a laurel . . . and hearty handshake!

See you right after the Sons of the Desert meeting.

 

[MichelleVW]

Count me in as a rebel who collects FP's in the morning and we use them later in the day after our break.

CM's would laugh at our late FP and say, "Where have you been!! We've been waiting for you!!"

 

[PrincessTiffany]

Nope... you can only use the Fastpass during the specified time. The only exception we have found is when the ride may be having problems, they will tell you to come back any time later that day.

Did this multiple times at all of the parks on our last visit. I guess won't be able to ride on the moral high horse some of you are on. Do they have a Fastpass for that? lol

 

[Sleeping Becca]

For those who think that the use of late fastpasses will clog the fastpass return queue, I used to think the same way and would never dream of using a fastpass outside of the window.

I visited Disneyland this past spring and was told that I could use the fastpass any time after the window had opened just not before. We spent the morning using standby and collecting fastpasses as they became available; in the evening we used all of the fastpasses. While in line I asked others if it was common to use the fastpasses long after the stated time and little over half of those I talked to in line were using "expired" fastpasses. I can say with certainty that using late fastpasses does not affect the queue.

So on my next trip I will be collecting fastpasses and using them later in the evening, unless I am told otherwise.

Also consider that many many many folks visiting Disney have no clue about the fastpass system, they think they have to pay for it, or they just don't know about it.

 

[Rudegrle]

Did this multiple times at all of the parks on our last visit. I guess won't be able to ride on the moral high horse some of you are on. Do they have a Fastpass for that? lol

Nope, no FP for the moral high horse. But I'm sure we can get FP's to hell for using them past our printed time.

Count me in as being "above the law". We us our FP's late all the time. What can I say? I don't like being on a schedule .

 

[BamaFan121s]

I guess won't be able to ride on the moral high horse some of you are on. Do they have a Fastpass for that? lol

Well that was a bit harsh, I think. Are "morals" a bad thing these days?

Anyway...back to being civil...
I just try to look at it from the point of view that Disney will step in and change the policy if and when it DOES become an issue. I consider myself lucky that I will be back soon and can catch any missed attraction next time.