Fastpass policy change?

[seashoreCM]

>>> tied up
At most two hours later you can get another fast pass even if the one you just got has not matured.

>>> broke down
If a ride breaks down, then all fast passes maturing during the breakdown are valid for the rest of the day. (I do contend that if you find a long fastpass line, you should be able to come back later at your convenience.)

>>> kidney infrection
Go get a Guest Assistance Card; they are customized for each holder and can include the provision of extended validity for fast passes.

Disney hints: http://members.aol.com/ajaynejr/fastpass.htm

 

[markmyboy]

Wow! Is all I can say, just wow!
I am planning our first Disney trip right now & Had no clue there was the option to abuse the system this way. Not at all surprised that people are abusing it. Everywhere I go I see people believing that the rules don't apply to them.
Do the people showing up late not realize that they are totally defeating the entire purpose of the fastpass system? I've never used the system & can see that!
Doesn't fast pass give you a fairly big window of time to get in the fastpass line? Can it really be that hard to manage your time to be there at that time? Do people really feel that they are owed more time than those that are using the fast pass system correctly? I should wait in the fast pass line longer because a group or two of fastpass holders decided they wanted to show up during my time instead of theirs?
It's very frustrating to follow the rules when you constantly see people who feel they are entitled to do as they please.
I plan to use our fastpasses during the times printed on the tickets & if I show up late, I will suck it up as MY OWN FAULT that I did not make it & change my plans accordingly. If they are enforcing the rules (as they should) then good, if not...I will enjoy my vacation as I have learned to do without allowing other peoples "issues" bother me.
Sorry if have offended anyone, but seriously my brain cannot process the feeling that the time printed is more of a "guideline" than the actual time they need you to arrive!

 

[kieras nana]

we were last there in oct 06,we were late returning,for TOT.i think we were about half an hour past,the return time.the CM would not let us ride.we made sure we stuck,to the return times after that!!!!

 

[rotlex]

No, but the rides do have return times posted above the FP machines and if you know your ADR time is within that time frame, why would you get that FP?

Agreed 100%. I'm ALL for them strictly enforcing the return time. I mean, that's what it's there for. I'm assuming the reasoning behind it is to keep lines at a minimum at all times. I mean, what happens when everyone that had a 1-2pm return time shows up at 3? Kind of negates the benefit of a fast pass.

 

[LilGMom]

Good to hear that they are starting to enfoce the FP return times and about time!

Now if they'd just do something about the people that don't pay for hard ticket events staying in the parks after park closing we would attend and enjoy them again.

 

[kirbsam]

No, but the rides do have return times posted above the FP machines and if you know your ADR time is within that time frame, why would you get that FP?

that was exactly my point, and i got a "well,duh" for it.

 

[Lovin' Lorne]

No, but the rides do have return times posted above the FP machines and if you know your ADR time is within that time frame, why would you get that FP?

That's what I was thinking. It's not like you have no idea when to come back until it spits out the FS. If you have an ADR at 5:30 and the FS comeback time is between 5:00 and 6:00, don't get it.


ETA-

Wow! Is all I can say, just wow!
I am planning our first Disney trip right now & Had no clue there was the option to abuse the system this way. Not at all surprised that people are abusing it. Everywhere I go I see people believing that the rules don't apply to them.
Do the people showing up late not realize that they are totally defeating the entire purpose of the fastpass system? I've never used the system & can see that!
Doesn't fast pass give you a fairly big window of time to get in the FP line? Can it really be that hard to manage your time to be there at that time? Do people really feel that they are owed more time than those that are using the fast pass system correctly? I should wait in the fast pass line longer because a group or two of FP holders decided they wanted to show up during my time instead of theirs?
It's very frustrating to follow the rules when you constantly see people who feel they are entitled to do as they please.
I plan to use our FP's during the times printed on the tickets & if I show up late, I will suck it up as MY OWN FAULT that I did not make it & change my plans accordingly. If they are enforcing the rules (as they should) then good, if not...I will enjoy my vacation as I have learned to do without allowing other peoples "issues" bother me.
Sorry if have offended anyone, but seriously my brain cannot process the feeling that the time printed is more of a "guideline" than the actual time they need you to arrive!

I never knew that people were so hell bent on cheating the system either. I must have missed the memo that was sent out to all stating that rules were no longer rules, only suggestions. We have always, and will continue to respect the rules when it comes to FP's or anything else. If we miss the time frame, we miss the time frame. Why do we deserve special treatment for being unable to manage our time?

 

[pepperderr]

Where can I learn more about fast passes and how they work? I have no idea what you all are talking about. I know you get a ticket to come back to the ride at a later time but that's about it.

 

[GoofySon'sMom]

Wow! Is all I can say, just wow!
I am planning our first Disney trip right now & Had no clue there was the option to abuse the system this way. Not at all surprised that people are abusing it. Everywhere I go I see people believing that the rules don't apply to them.
Do the people showing up late not realize that they are totally defeating the entire purpose of the fastpass system? I've never used the system & can see that!
Doesn't fast pass give you a fairly big window of time to get in the fastpass line? Can it really be that hard to manage your time to be there at that time? Do people really feel that they are owed more time than those that are using the fast pass system correctly? I should wait in the fast pass line longer because a group or two of fastpass holders decided they wanted to show up during my time instead of theirs?
It's very frustrating to follow the rules when you constantly see people who feel they are entitled to do as they please.
I plan to use our fastpasses during the times printed on the tickets & if I show up late, I will suck it up as MY OWN FAULT that I did not make it & change my plans accordingly. If they are enforcing the rules (as they should) then good, if not...I will enjoy my vacation as I have learned to do without allowing other peoples "issues" bother me.
Sorry if have offended anyone, but seriously my brain cannot process the feeling that the time printed is more of a "guideline" than the actual time they need you to arrive!

I couldn't have said this better. We have always used our FPs within the return window. I didn't know until last trip that they were even taken past that time. But we still felt uncomfortable doing it. We were in Germany when our FP time for Soarin' came up and just didn't want to hike it back so we didn't go on that day.

I totally agree about the frustration of following the rules when others don't. It is hard to set the right example for a child when others seem to get away with things. Thankfully my DS is now 12 and understands that some people are just difficult and we don't let it ruin our day.

I really hope the FP return time in enforced during our next trip. But even if they aren't, we will be returning within our window.

 

[bigAWL]

Do you think enforcing the rule will result in a lot more FPs going unused?

There are always going to be extenuating circumstances.....life happens. My beef is with those who pick up a FP, with the intention of returning when it suits them, not within the window given. I would think that if you were within 15-20 mins of the window they would cut you some slack. But those who return several hours after the time, should not be allowed on.

Don't you think there should be one policy? If you leave it up to the CM at the ride, then there will be arguments: "I heard if we were just a few minutes late that we could still get in...." If you're going to ask them enforce the rule, I think it should be hard and fast. If you want allow for extenuating circumstances that make you 15-20 minutes late, then make the return window 15-20 minutes longer.

 

[Robo]

Where can I learn more about fast passes and how they work? I have no idea what you all are talking about. I know you get a ticket to come back to the ride at a later time but that's about it.

Only certain more-popular attractions offer FastPass.
You must go to the front area of an attraction to get a FP for that attraction.
There are FP machines that dispense them.

http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/wdw/parks/fastPassPopup?id=FastPassPopUpPage

QUOTE:

FASTPASS
Disney's FASTPASS® service is sure to help you get the most enjoyment out of your day at the Walt Disney World® Resort! This free Guest Service saves your place in line, allowing you to venture off and experience more of the wonders of Walt Disney World — before returning to board your attraction with a minimal wait.

 

[JeremyGNJ]

I think it's crappy that people abuse the system this way. Walt would not approve.

However.....i think if they are going to more strictly enforce the FastPass rules, then they should allow you to get a FP for ANY ride at ANY FastPass station. After all what sense does it make to run back and forth across the park just to "save time".

 

[kirbsam]

I think it's crappy that people abuse the system this way. Walt would not approve.

However.....i think if they are going to more strictly enforce the FastPass rules, then they should allow you to get a FP for ANY ride at ANY FastPass station. After all what sense does it make to run back and forth across the park just to "save time".

youre right, but people will always abuse the system, and then justify it by saying that since they dont enforce it, disney must not care.

 

[JeremyGNJ]

If you can stand in line at the ladies room for 25 minutes, why can't you just go ahead and use your fastpass first and then go to the ladies room?

That way you get to use your fastpass during it's "legal" time frame, and get to go to the ladies room. Probably not much more of a delay for the ladies room if you were to ride first.

I think they should start a bathroom fastpass system. You get 1 or 2 bathroom FP's perday and you can bypass the line.

 

[Robo]

I think they should start a bathroom fastpass system. You get 1 or 2 bathroom FP's perday and you can bypass the line.

But you must return to that particular bathroom to use the pass.

 

[minie_meese]

I would be happy to see the times enforced. The last time we were in DisneyWorld (early October) the fast pass return lines seemed to have gotten longer than I ever remember. Leaving the end time open make it hard to control the lines and encourages some of the Ebay scams you see with people selling fake or expired fast passes. We've always returned during the window and will continue to do so.

If you get fast passes and find you can't use them during the window, make someone's day and give them the passes. We've done that on a few occasions and while we were disapointed we couldn't ride, the look on the faces of the recipients who could use them, made our day.

 

[EnnEss]

They shouldn't enforce, just let anyone on the ride whenever they want, front of the line. Everyone paid for their vacation and each person may want to do different things instead of returning for their fast pass time that is so clearly stated. If they miss it through their own fault, like going to the washroom for an the entire hour of the fastpass window, or going to eat in the one hour their fastpass was valid, let em in.

Oh wait, actually there is a line for that already. It used to be the only line, standby . Whoever said if rules aren't applied universally we shouldn't have them, killing other humans is allowed in war time operations, let's make it legal everywhere, its a lot quicker conflict resolution than the tiresome laws we have now.

 

[goofy4tink]

See, here's the thing (IMHO)....Disney has the 'rules' stated on the FP.They provide you with the return times so you can see them before you get your FP..yes, I'm sure there have been glitches in the system but those are not the norm. So...if Disney has these 'rules' on the FP, why should they not enforce them? If, at some time down the road, Disney decided to not enforce these 'rules', then perhaps they can change the FP to not have a set 'window' for your return time...it would just read....'return anytime after 4:00 pm today' with the date stamp.
Until they do that, I would assume, they mean what they say when they say 'return between 2:00 and 4:00 pm'...why would anyone take that to be a 'guideline'? It's pretty clear.

And yes, as someone said...if they enforce the rules, then they enforce the rules. No leeway. I stand corrected. If one CM makes allowances but another doesn't, it will only serve to confuse the guest.

 

[iheartdisney]

But you must return to that particular bathroom to use the pass.

But what if the bathroom pass says to return between 1 pm and 2 pm, and i'm on a ride during that entire window. Then my bladder should take presedence over the folks that need to relieve themselves in the 2 to 3 hour, because they probably won't check anyway! I paid good money for this vacation!

 

[Robo]

But what if the bathroom pass says to return between 1 pm and 2 pm, and i'm on a ride during that entire window.

Bladder: set to "Standby"