Fast Pass return times

[Balt ravens fan]

I don't like it, but I will live with it, and I can understand why Disney wants to inforce it. Maybe they should have just enforced it all along - that way people can't say "back in the day" it was so much better.

 

[mom2rtk]

We always adhere to the rules, so we are fine with the change.

We always adhere to the rules too.We just liked it better when the rule was to allow late returns.

 

[maxiesmom]

We were at WDW the week they started enforcing the Fast Pass times, and it seemed we could get FPs a lot latter on into the day then before. They weren't all gone so early into the day. So I'm all for the change.

 

[mjp12831]

It's an awful change that has absolutely nothing to do with improving the park experience for us.

In addition, I fail to understand the self-rightous folks who seem to think that not adhering to the window was breaking the rules. Pre change, the window was a guideline - not a rule - Disney openly stated that they allowed late returns.

Finally, I REALLY fail to understand how anyone could think this is a good idea - it isn't going to mean more FP or shorter lines. It is not changing ride capacity. I've come to the conclusion that those who support the change are probalby those who are more jealous of people who put the work in and were able to really dominate the parks during the busy times. Enforcement levels the playing field for the more relaxed parkgoer.

 

[mesaboy2]

It's an awful change that has absolutely nothing to do with improving the park experience for us.

In addition, I fail to understand the self-rightous folks who seem to think that not adhering to the window was breaking the rules. Pre change, the window was a guideline - not a rule - Disney openly stated that they allowed late returns.

Finally, I REALLY fail to understand how anyone could think this is a good idea - it isn't going to mean more FP or shorter lines. It is not changing ride capacity. I've come to the conclusion that those who support the change are probalby those who are more jealous of people who put the work in and were able to really dominate the parks during the busy times. Enforcement levels the playing field for the more relaxed parkgoer.

You got my meaning.

 

[DisneyFive]

Absolutely DON'T like it. Just another thing to plan during your day now, and it takes away a lot of flexability. Yes, very bummed about this.

I'll have to see how our upcoming Sept vacation works out this year with the new policy before I make final judgement though. So far, I really don't like it.

Dan

 

[PIRATEGIRL007]

We really dislike it, but to quote my boss when he is rolling out bad news to the company "It is what it is". Hate the phrase but it sums up this situation to us perfectly.

 

[corvair]

I really don't like it either...we go about 2 times a year for about the past 13 years
..have not been there since in effect but will be there end of may..

I feel it will limit how much you can do...we get fast pass, than and get in a stand by line...what if you are stuck when your fast pass is due...
i know some will say than don't get in that line...but i have been in many lines that say 20 minutes and take alot longer...

I really think in busy times, it will really limit the amount of things you can do...criss crossing is very tiring and time consuming.

amy

 

[cinderella'smommy]

Just got back from a 4-day trip in April; really didn't like the added pressure of having to get back to a particular area on time. It added a level of anxiety that makes the park visit a little more stressful. That said, we generally made it during our window; and only gave away FPs once (for Soarin') only because we had already been on it twice, and we decided to head back to the hotel for swimming instead.

 

[GreenCntryGirl]

I voted indifferent because the change in the process won't affect how I tour the parks.

 

[KellyNY]

I think the difference between people deciding between "Don't care either way" and "Like it" is an interesting one.

Trying to make this thread interesting?

 

[UNCFanatik]

I just wonder how differently people would feel, if 90% of park goers where in the know about not having to return in the allotted FP return window and made it a common practice to return whenever they felt like it.

I would imagine that they would be singing quite a different tune.

There have been positive effects of the change as has been reported.

 

[danielle.st]

We were just there last week and I HATED it. One hour is not enough. I can't remember how often we went late on previous trips, but this time I noticed a huge inconvenience and a lot of stress because of it when working around ADRs. I think if we didnt do any TS meals, it wouldn't matter so much. I was unable to use a couple because of ADRs and didn't pull a few more becuse I knew it would conflict with them. It was extremely frustrating. Thank goodness we didn't go with deluxe dining this trip because that would have been an absolute nightmare. If it's still like this when we go again, I think we will not bother buying the dining plan and do fewer TS meals, none in the middle of the day.

 

[UNCFanatik]

It's an awful change that has absolutely nothing to do with improving the park experience for us.

In addition, I fail to understand the self-rightous folks who seem to think that not adhering to the window was breaking the rules. Pre change, the window was a guideline - not a rule - Disney openly stated that they allowed late returns.

Disney did not widely promote this as witnessed by the people that had no idea it was allowed. No where on the attractions did they openly state that you could return late

Finally, I REALLY fail to understand how anyone could think this is a good idea - it isn't going to mean more FP or shorter lines. It is not changing ride capacity.

There have been an increase of Fast Passes being issued as has been reported. Also, it is too early to tell what effect this is having on line lengths as we have seen a varying number of reports from people were saying lines were shorter or longer than what they have experienced in the past

I've come to the conclusion that those who support the change are probalby those who are more jealous of people who put the work in and were able to really dominate the parks during the busy times. Enforcement levels the playing field for the more relaxed parkgoer.

Jealous? I guess just as jealous as others who have gamed the Disney systems in the past at detriment of others like say....CRT....ADRs...

 

[W.E.D.]

I'm indifferent.

Our last trip, which was in December, was (believe it or not) the first time we had ever pulled FPs. Crowds were so low that in the end we didn't even need them. Since we have decided to never return during peak times, I don't think it will bother us. If it does, we'll do our best to return during the allotted time. If not, we'll give them to someone who can use them.

 

[chmurf]

like it
and it was about time ...
actually, on my list of "rude guest behaviors", late FP returns were at least top 5

 

[Snow Shoe]

As I see by the poll numbers, I’m in the minority which really doesn’t bother me. Disney for many years allowed you to come back whenever you wanted after your posted time, now they have decided to enforce the time element, and people are crying foul, that’s not the way it was done in the past Getting a Fastpass you “agree” to come back at the time shown. You simply come back at the posted time on your Fastpass and get in, or not make the time slot and can’t get in because it wasn’t convenient for you at that time for whatever the reason. Rules are there for a reason, and are meant to be followed, agreeing with them or not. Remember, it’s “their park”, and they can make changes whenever they want to.

 

[KellyNY]

Disney did not widely promote this as witnessed by the people that had no idea it was allowed. No where on the attractions did they openly state that you could return late



There have been an increase of Fast Passes being issued as has been reported. Also, it is too early to tell what effect this is having on line lengths as we have seen a varying number of reports from people were saying lines were shorter or longer than what they have experienced in the past



Jealous? I guess just as jealous as others who have gamed the Disney systems in the past at detriment of others like say....CRT....ADRs...

Don't bother, really, you just wasting your time.

Did you notice the moment FP thread dies, another one appears.

Did you notice how here and there people just drop "we were following rules...", some will even claim they were smart ones and we were just stupid sheep.

Did you notice how some try to push conversation toward vendication road.

Did you notice that every thread where someone posting about their good, or should I say not complicated by enforcement experience, dies with only few posts in it, who needs to hear it, right? Some still waiting for desastrous reports. Let them wait, who cares.

 

[cluvsdisney]

I'm indifferent. When we pull one, it's because we are going to be in the park for the return time. We are not all day park people so sometimes we hang out until the return window, other times we just decide to leave the park without using them.* But there's no ride we have to ride on any given vacation so if we missed a FP time and couldn't ride it's not a big deal to us.


*We don't intentially waste FPs, we intend to use them when we pull them but decided to leave the park for one personal reason or another. (I don't want to be accused of taking rides away from people.)

 

[mjp12831]

Disney did not widely promote this as witnessed by the people that had no idea it was allowed. No where on the attractions did they openly state that you could return late



There have been an increase of Fast Passes being issued as has been reported. Also, it is too early to tell what effect this is having on line lengths as we have seen a varying number of reports from people were saying lines were shorter or longer than what they have experienced in the past



Jealous? I guess just as jealous as others who have gamed the Disney systems in the past at detriment of others like say....CRT....ADRs...

Ok, I'll take your bait.

On point one, there are a zillion things in everyday life that everyone doesn't know about - an uninformed consumer is not the problem of the educated consumer.

Point two is 100% incorrect - # of WDW FP issued are based on ride capacity. Enforcing the window has zero effect on ride capacity. FP rides generally operate at capacity throughout the day. Therefore, window enforcement cannot possibly impact lines. If they issued more FP it would not be as a result of enforcement, and it would only serve to extend wait time in the SB line. Math should tell you that window enforcement will never impact wait times.

On point three, you are clearly just trying to be inflamitory - When the company and it's employees openly acknowledge that late returns were accepted, it's a bit difficult to then argue that you are breaking the rules by following what the company says is accepted.