Fantastic Opportunity to Buy ..... Still having trouble with Dad/Husband

[~Magical Princess~]

I've got the opportunity to buy 350 OKW pts from an owner at an extremely good price and am so psyched about it - however my father and husband are still reluctant! Here is the deal. My dad would be dropping the purchase price. My husband and I would be responsible for the dues and then we vacation together or split the points. (I'm almost thinking we should be asking for 400 points - but I think 350 will be ok ....???) All that being said, we are BOTH financially in very well off positions right now. My dad could pay the purchase price and not even miss it, my husband and I could float the maintenance fees and it totally not matter - so I think we should do it!

When I say extremely good price, it is below the current disney buy back, however I'm not totally convinced Disney uses that FROR as often as everyone thinks they do - especially on OKW contracts - but then again we could be wrong. But we are willing to chance it .......

My husband/father just honestly thinks it's a "waste" when we can stay at the values or moderates on "codes" and save ALL that money! I keep explaining them the difference in accommodations etc., - and they just won't hear me. What can I do to convince them or do I forever be a DVC "Wannabe" ?? My dad's biggest argument is the fact that the kids will NOT always want to go to Disney (oh yes they will LOL) and I've tried to explain that there are TONS of other places to go - but it's almost like talking to the wall

PLEASE HELP

 

[Lisa P.]

It sounds like they are not really interested in anticipating yearly Disney trips far into the future. What kind of compromise can you find? Perhaps if you were to suggest a dual approach... enough points for an every other year trip and look for alternatives for travel to places and doing things they like (golf, scuba, fishing, cruises - ???) whatever interests them in the between years.

Would they care if you bought your own points... paid for it yourself and they take care of the other expenses on vacations? If you take on the responsibility of earning and saving for the purchase, then you may have more say in what is purchased. Just a thought.

So long as it's your dad's money, how he spends it is really up to him. If he is not on board (and especially, if your husband is not on board... he is your husband, after all), think carefully about how your relationships will be affected by pursuing this when they've expressed a negative decision.

Take heart... it's not the only way to vacation with Disney!

 

[Gillian]

Have they stayed at a DVC resort? Maybe that would help convince them! Maybe do a few days at a moderate & then a few days in a villa so they can see the difference all that space makes!

 

[RweTHEREyet]

If the price is that good and the money is not a problem for either of you, you could make the purchase. If on down the road you folks determine it isn't for you, you can always turn around and sell it yourselves. But at least you gave it a try.

 

[Regina]

If you can't convince your dad to buy it for you, why not buy it yourself?

 

[~Magical Princess~]

Well, hubby won't go for "buying it ourselves" - already tried that last year. See, we'd have to get a small loan (for like 1/2 the amount so like $10k) which I know isn't THAT huge of a deal, but he just wouldn't let me last year. Now my dad is in a position where he just came into some money and of course his wonderful daughter is looking to help him spend it! LOL No, seriously, my parents are very well off, and they honestly did just become a little more well off, so I'm just hoping that my dad would do this and we'd just do the dues - but I just don't see it happening I guess I'll keep pestering and let you know the outcome!

Please tell me some more positive things that will help persuad both of their minds. I have to admit though, after reading that lawyer post a few posts ago about if Disney were to go bankrupt and the attendance is down etc., - I'm getting nervous!

 

[HookdonWDW]

I love owning DVC as much as anyone else on this board. Now, with that being said, I would NEVER have purchased DVC if dh had been against it. Our marriage just isn't worth the stress that a purchase could cause if one of the two principals isn't happy. And this is coming from someone who could afford to buy it WITHOUT counting on dh, my dad, or anyone else to help with the initial purchase or dues.

I hate to say it, but if they don't want to buy, I think you should shelf the idea for now. I like the suggestion someone made about staying at a DVC resort on cash or rented points to try it out. Maybe if you take a wait-and-see attitude, eventually the others will decide to purchase. Then you'll be happy, and they'll be able to post their one regret on this board...



"I wish we had bought sooner!"

 

[manning]

Magical Princess. This is going to sound corny, here goes.

Yesterday was our 31st wedding anniversary, and I got the best card ever from her. All it said was "We've got everything, because we've got each other."

I wouldn't dream of twisting her arm to own something. I would present it to her and if she agreed, fine, if she didn't, fine. I wouldn't dream of taking the chance of losing everything. You force him into it he may resent it.

 

[DeeP]

I think taking a trip and staying in a 2 BR with your DH and your Dad might make them see just how much nicer a DVC villa is than any hotel room especially a value or moderate but it is also much nicer than even a WDW deluxe resort because you have more than just a room. I think a fairer comparison to a 1 or 2 BR DVC villa would be one of the deluxe resort suites and they certainly cost a lot more than a DVC villa costs per night.
However if you do this and your Dad is still against buying it you are pretty much out of luck since it is his money. Paying the dues every year is small potatoes compared to the purchase price that you have to lay out when you buy DVC, so if your Dad does not want to spend the money and DH does not want to purchase either you don't have much choice. Maybe you could save up the money on your own and then approach DH with the idea to buy.

 

[Andrea T]

Hi Magical Princess (yes, I know who you are LOL).
Maybe after this wonderful, upcoming, stress free vacation they will be convinced on their own!!! I think your Dad will fall in love with OKW!!!!! Just my opinion....Andrea

 

[Granny]

Magical P....I'd book a cash reservation for a one week vacation at a nice 2BR in BWV, BCV, wherever. Go down, enjoy the heck out of the accommodations.

Then when you check out, show them the bill. Tell them they could have paid a substantial portion of the membership with that!

Honestly, I agree that the DVC decision should NEVER be a point of marital contention.

How about trying this. Purchase the points. Use them for the years you mutually agree make sense given the ages of the kids. Then sell them, probably for a similar price that you bought them for if past history is any indication (OKW resales are almost all at a higher price than the original purchase price).

Of course, after a few trips he'd tell you to forget about selling, but it might be a good way to ease his mind about the investment.

 

[WDWguru]

Originally posted by ~Magical Princess~
My husband/father just honestly thinks it's a "waste" when we can stay at the values or moderates on "codes" and save ALL that money

Remember that those discounts are a relatively new phenomenon and will NOT always be there. Also, you have hotel rate inflation. One of our main reasons for joining was to lock in our hotel price for the next 40 years. The points required to stay where and when we want will be the same in 2040 as they are today. Do you think the Disney hotel prices will be?

 

[~Magical Princess~]

Hi ANDREAT !!! Yes Andrea is our wonderful DVC Owner we are renting out points from! THANK YOU SO MUCH ANDREA! I'm hoping so bad that after my dad and mom stay there they will change their minds, but like I said, this particular deal I'm working on, I really honestly don't think it will be around much longer

I guess I have to let fate take it's course!

 

[joepoe]

Originally posted by ~Magical Princess~
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When I say extremely good price, it is below the current disney buy back, however I'm not totally convinced Disney uses that FROR as often as everyone thinks they do - especially on OKW contracts - but then again we could be wrong. But we are willing to chance it .......

My husband/father just honestly thinks it's a "waste" when we can stay at the values or moderates on "codes" and save ALL that money! I keep explaining them the difference in accommodations etc., - and they just won't hear me
PLEASE HELP

Disney exercises it ROFR all the time, but you lose nothing if you try to get it for less.

Secondly, about the difference in accomodations. Some people just don't know what they don't know. Sorry if I sound like a snob, but I am spoiled. Staying at an All Star Resort would be horrific torture to me.

 

[~Magical Princess~]

I have to say, when we stayed at an All Star resort a few years ago we were delightfully pleased. At first a little skeptic, but had gotten such a good code rate that we had to try and both us and my parents really enjoyed the place.

THAT BEING SAID, my mom saw the video of when we stayed at OKW some time last year and the first thing she said was, "Wow the rooms are SO big, I don't think I could ever want to stay at the All Stars again ....." And she hadn't even been there in person yet! LOL I told my mom, when you step foot on OKW, and hear all the "Welcome Homes" and you see the grounds and the units, I swear you'll be saying, "Who can we call RIGHT NOW to get this rolling!"

I agree that this isn't worth recking a marraige (or causing strife perhaps) or aggravating my very easily aggravatable dad when he says "no" on something .. but I really just wanted to get some positives views out there about what makes DVC so special and try to convince them - but I guess I'll just let it go for a while. Our trip is 5 weeks away and so if it's "to be" that resale we are looking at will still be there. I guess it's been out on the market already 6 weeks which I'm literally SHOCKED but then again it's a big package and maybe people aren't so quick to jump these days due to the economy etc., but I know it won't last at these bargain basement prices. Oh well, have to just wait it out!

 

[PamOKW]

Oh well, have to just wait it out!

I think that's probably the best tactic. Let this deal go by.....there will be another one. Let everyone experience your upcoming trip. (Are your parents coming?) On the trip, try to do things that will appeal to your husband and father. Do they like to golf, fish, boat, etc.? Arrange for them to do those activities. Let them experience more than just the parks so they can see all WDW has to offer. If, after staying in the 2-bedroom, your father still isn't interested I wouldn't pursue it further with him. You and your husband can discuss how it might be possible for you to own it yourselves. But, joining DVC should never be a financial or emotional burden. It's wonderful but it's not worth upsetting a family.