Fantastic Four reboot a flop for Fox .

[rag10576]

Everyone with Fox owning the movie rights to Marvels Fantastic Four this reboot does not sound or look good for a great Marvel group. If it flops can Disney Marvel get the rights back to its rightful owners?

 

[Castle2Castle]

They always can get the rights back to licensed Marvel properties if FOX/Sony are inclined to sell and Disney is willing to pay the price. It seems unlikely though with the profit potential so long as people are flocking to comic book driven movies. I hadn't heard about them doing a Fantastic Four reboot, but a quick look at an article from Google suggested they're already pencilling in a sequel to it for 2017. . . sooo, I'd definitely say it's unlikely Disney will be buying the rights back any time too soon.

 

[Reddog1134]

No. Producing a flop will not give Disney the rights back. In fact, just making the movie reinforces FOX's rights.

Because that's exactly what they did in 1994.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109770/trivia?ref_=tt_trv_trv

In an interview with the filmmaker Kevin Smith, Stan Lee, the creator of the "Fantastic Four", said that, unknown to its cast and crew, this movie was never intended to be released, and it was made only because the studio that owned the rights to make a "Fantastic Four" movie would have lost those rights if it did not begin production by a certain date.

 

[surferdave]

I'm pretty happy with Fox retaining rights to X-men and Fantastic Four as long as they make good movies because Disney is only going to make so many movies. If they had all the original properties then we wouldn't be getting some of the riskier movies like Guardians of the Galaxy.

I do kind of wish Sony would give up Spiderman because I don't care for their movies.

 

[doconeill]

Depending on the terms of the rights contract, the studio generally needs to produce some qualifying product every so many years in order to retain the rights to do so. The contracts vary and may include lesser productions such as straight-to-DVD or television productions as well.

So long as the production meets the requirements of the contract, then the rights are retained. It does not generally matter what the quality is. There could be some sort of "quality" clauses, but they are hard to enforce. It's like the Marvel contract with Universal Studios - there are maintenance clauses, but they are subjective so they can't just say, "Hey, we don't think you are maintaining well enough. Ours now!"

 

[Brocktoon]

I'm as skeptical as most when it comes to the new FF movie, but don't count Josh Trank out. He's a huge comic geek, and Chronicle was a great low budget superhero origin flick. It may not be a Disney/Marvel production, but it still may be leaps/bounds better than the previous FF movies. Keep in Mind:

- A similar up and coming writer/director did a movie in 2010 called 'Monsters'. Based on that flick, he got the green light to do Godzilla ... Gareth Edwards

- Disney / Lucasfilm has been rumored to be working with both Gareth Edwards and Josh Trank on future Star Wars films

Disney really wants fresh young and hungry talent involved in the future of the Star Wars universe. Trank knows what he's doing. The new FF movie may be a train wreck, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. FOX seems to be doing the best that they can with the Marvel license they have.

Disney: Trank = Star Wars
FOX: Trank = Fantastic Four

 

[CouchTater]

I'm a long time FF fan but nothing about this sounds like the FF I know and love. I have no desire to see it. I have seen very little enthusiasm for this movie on the movie boards. Why make a movie about characters if you are going to ignore the source material and follow your own vision. Just create your own characters if that's what you want. Marvel has been successful by good casting and staying mostly true to its roots. Sony has strayed from that in it's latest Spiderman movies and it has affected their plans for sequels. There is talk that Marvel might get Spiderman back for limited inclusion in their next storyline launching in Cap 3 and moving into the 3rd Avengers movie.

 

[truck1]

No. Producing a flop will not give Disney the rights back. In fact, just making the movie reinforces FOX's rights.

Because that's exactly what they did in 1994.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109770/trivia?ref_=tt_trv_trv

In an interview with the filmmaker Kevin Smith, Stan Lee, the creator of the "Fantastic Four", said that, unknown to its cast and crew, this movie was never intended to be released, and it was made only because the studio that owned the rights to make a "Fantastic Four" movie would have lost those rights if it did not begin production by a certain date.

I remember seeing something about that. Just don't remember where. It was a little more in depth description on the how and why. They have to make certain movies in a certain time frame. So a reboot that never gets seen fits the bill. I think it was done once before.

 

[doconeill]

I remember seeing something about that. Just don't remember where. It was a little more in depth description on the how and why. They have to make certain movies in a certain time frame. So a reboot that never gets seen fits the bill. I think it was done once before.

Interestingly, the Dungeons&Dragons movie rights are currently being decided based on what constitutes a proper "sequel" for the previous rightsholder to retain the rights, with Universal trying to take them over and Warner Bros. in the back seat hoping to get them itself via the original rightsholder...

The case currently rests with the judge:

http://scifistorm.org/2014/09/17/dungeons-dragons-lawsuit-finally-makes-it-to-court/