Family party in villa

[Happy Birthday Cat]

Noone said this was turning into a knock down drag out booze fest until all hours of the morning!

I was hoping it would be one by nightfall but I suppose by morning is okay too.

HBC

 

[CarolMN]

I'm surprised that DVC said this was OK and also surprised that some posters here are OK with it.

Maybe this group will celebrate completely unnoticed by other guests. But if it's OK for this group, then it seems to me that any group of 15 that wants to use a 1 bedroom and the resort facilities for the day should be allowed to do so.

Best wishes -

 

[rayelias]

As far as I'm concerned, I have no problem with a "party" so long as it:

1. Does not take away from the "quiet enjoyment" of the rest of the guests (you're not the ONLY ones there, you know)

2. The rules that apply to the rest of us apply to you, as well. This includes (hold on to your hats) OCCUPANCY.

You may have 4 guests (5 if one is under 3) in a 1BR. If you want 15 people, rent enough rooms to satisfy that occupancy.

It's not just "there's ROOM to hold 15." There are a LOT of other things to consider. What if EVERYONE decided to have 15 in their unit? Do you think the fire marshall would approve?

What about the extra cleaning it will take. Not that I'm expecting you to be slobs, but 15 people will typically make almost 4 times the amount of trash and cleaning than 4 people.

What about the pool use? The pool area(s) are designed to hold a certain number of people. The extra 11 people in your room will take away spots for 3-4 families staying in studios/1BR's at the pools. Is that fair?

What about utilities? 15 people are going to flush the toilet 4X as much as 4 people. 15 people are probably going to use considerably more electricity than 4 people. 15 people are going to use 4X the amount of soap, towels, etc, etc.

What about the wear and tear? 15 people are going to create nearly 4 times the normal wear and tear than 4 people. Again, not that you're going to trash the place, but "wear and tear" and "mousekeeping" and "utilities" and "pool usage" are figured into the cost per room. You're exceeding that by nearly 400%! If you're not paying extra for that, someone is (the rest of us).

By allowing 15 people to use a 1BR and all the perks thereof is like taking 15 people into the parks but only paying for 4. "But only 4 of us will be using the rides at any one time" is not valid reasoning.

I am REALLY surprised that there are so many people here in support of this! Again, do what you want in your room(s) on your vacation so long as you play by the same rules as the rest of us and don't invade on our vacations.

Let the flames begin!

 

[kathleena]

Aren't you glad you asked?



At first I thought - wow - 15? that's an awful lot in a room. Then I cringed and laughed my way through the thread. Even got a little PO'd (just a little - didn't say I was really PO'd).

For myself and my situation - if your group was not overbearing (eg all teenagers out on the deck yelling and stuff) then having guests in your "home" is none of my business. I wouldn't mind tolerable noise levels and reasonable end to it by 9 or 10 pm.

But - I think also of people with kids who need to nap during the day - be respectful of them.

As for the pool - well that's when the thread got me a little worked up. I'm remembering all the fuss about people having day guests at the BCV and bringing them to that pool. I stand with my opinion on that thread - you are allowed up to the limit of the room at the pool - doesn't matter to me whether you need a key or not - 4 keys for a 1 bedroom (OK 5 but dont' tell anyone I said that).

So have fun, be respectful, keep the noise down and don't mob the pool or the hotel activities.

 

[beacher]

Technical question about security... how would day guests even get in to OKW? Isn't there a guard station like BWV where you have to be a registered guest or on the check-in list for the day to drive into the lot? We're always stopped and asked to give our name when we drive into the BWV parking lot... can't remember whether it was the same at OKW.

 

[NMW]

There are a lot of people with kids who nap during the day. You may get some complaints if the party gets too loud. If people are fairly quiet, I doubt it would be a problem. We probably would not be in the room in the day anyway. As long as the party ended by like 9:30-10:00 PM so my kids can go to sleep, it would not bother me.

I can see what others are saying about the pool though. I don't think it's fair to have non-quests of the resort swimming and taking up pool chairs, especialy in a hot month like August.

 

[DVCLady]

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[FreeTime]

I have visted this post several times and went back and forth and have now decided to reply. Initially, I thought, no big deal, it sounds like it will be some quiet, calm, adults hanging out in the villa for a few hours. But then I got to wondering would I get the same priority? I booked 3 villas for an upcoming trip for 11 of us (studio, 1 br, and 2 br). It seems that I should have just booked the 1 br for my immediate family and then had everyone else stay offsite or at the AS and have them come visit us each day. But that wouldn't be fair to those staying at the resort to have to share space with my day guests.

I just think it Disney does this for one, they will need to do it for all.

 

[RweTHEREyet]

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2. The rules that apply to the rest of us apply to you, as well. This includes (hold on to your hats) OCCUPANCY.

You may have 4 guests (5 if one is under 3) in a 1BR. If you want 15 people, rent enough rooms to satisfy that occupancy.

It's not just "there's ROOM to hold 15." There are a LOT of other things to consider. What if EVERYONE decided to have 15 in their unit? Do you think the fire marshall would approve?

It isn't an occupancy issue since she clearly stated that they are not spending the night. She doesn't need more rooms for 15 people to get together during the day.

that being said. I would hate to be the family that had little ones that might be napping during the day. Regardless of how considerate a group that size is, there is still a noise factor with any neighbors, even a party of 2-3, let alone 15.

 

[RweTHEREyet]

It seems that I should have just booked the 1 br for my immediate family and then had everyone else stay offsite or at the AS and have them come visit us each day.

It sounds to me as if the op's family is in Orlando and she wants them to be able to visit. I don't think it is a matter of getting around the occupancy by having them stay offsite. I think they live offsite and want to visit.

 

[rbuzzotta]

If the guests are not spending the night then what time should they all leave by?

We will be there in August for 2 weeks and I just hope I am not below them!!!

 

[CharlesTD]

That sounds great you have now given me an idea for our next Dec trip as there will be 21 of us at Disney and it is my wifes b day while we are there I think we will have her party in our room. Cook a nice meal and kick back and enjoy it then maybe take everyone for a swim and a hot tub then back to the room for a movie and cake and icecream. Our 21 will consist of 7 kids from 10-4 years of age and the rest will be adults and we will all be staying at OKW so no problems with accessing the place or the pool issue some have come up with, I still think it is a great idea and I hope you have a great time let us know how it turns out and congrats to the graduate.

 

[JVL1018]

Not a big deal at all to me.
I would not mind if we were in the villa next to, or under where the party was taking place.
If they're not sleeping there, it doesn't matter, IMO.
Have a great time!

 

[lovewdwdvc]

Have a great time. I would suggest the quiet pool that you can turn in to a "private" party.

Go ahead and have lots of fun.

you sound like generous kind people. We need more of you around.

I would love to be next door to all of you and your party. We probably would be gone during the day. We would meet all of you when we were on our balcony,kicking back relaxing and letting the kids get some shut eye.

 

[rayelias]

It sounds to me as if the op's family is in Orlando and she wants them to be able to visit. I don't think it is a matter of getting around the occupancy by having them stay offsite. I think they live offsite and want to visit.

It IS an occupancy issue, and here's why.

So, you think it's OK fo 15 day visitors. What if one of them decides to bring a friend - that's 16. What if someone else does - that's 17. How about 20? How about 50? How about 100? How about 200? Where do you draw the line?

I say the line is drawn at the occupancy for each room.

The resources at the resort are there for the use of the guests.

What if one of these "day guests", who are not on the reservation and are not paying to be there, has a serious accident. Maybe they slip and break a leg? Maybe they drown in the pool. As a DVC member, are YOU comfortable paying for that?

Operational costs of a family's stay is figured into the room cost (or point cost) which includes utilties, toiletries, staff, insurance, wear and tear, etc. Having extra people than what is allotted skews those figures.

It seems to me that the OP was NOT trying to break the rules, and I hope this doesn't seem like I'm attacking him (or her). I'm just trying to make blanket statements about the situation and situations like this that may occur in the future, not the person. However, we all know there are some people who DO try to push the limits. Sure, you could fit 5 or 6 people in a studio or 1BR, but the rules say 4. That is not some arbitrary # that Disney figured on, there is a reason behind it, a large part of it is in figuring the operational costs per room per night.

There's a LOT more to the decision to say "Cool, have a party, bring lots of friends, have fun!" Of course I'd LOVE to say that, too, and be the "good guy", but, IMHO, there are a lot of serious things that people who have that view are overlooking..

Perhaps on my next visit, I'll make LOTS of friends in the parks, invite them ALL back to OKW for a big party in my studio, use the pools (and the towels), use the showers, use the pool chairs, we can all do our laundry, rent some free videos, clog up the resort bus, cook up lots of meals, have a BALL. I'll be REAL popular with my "new friends." Most of you don't seem to mind - heck - you're ALL invited, whether you're a DVC member or not. Spread the word! (no Universal guests allowed, though).

 

[CharlesTD]

Hmm I still don't see how a number of DAY guests is an occupancy limit problem if they stay over night yes I can see that but to have people over for a get together and then they leave later on is really not an issue. So if you have relatives that happen to come along and stay elsewhere and you have them over by your admission and thought it is an occupancy violation kinda silly if you ask me.

 

[rayelias]

Hmm I still don't see how a number of DAY guests is an occupancy limit problem if they stay over night yes I can see that but to have people over for a get together and then they leave later on is really not an issue. So if you have relatives that happen to come along and stay elsewhere and you have them over by your admission and thought it is an occupancy violation kinda silly if you ask me.

Why does the position of the sun have anything to do with how many people are allowed in a unit?

 

[CharlesTD]

Well to me when I read occupants I belive that to mean people sleeping in the room not coming by for a visit or get together.

 

[rayelias]

Well to me when I read occupants I belive that to mean people sleeping in the room not coming by for a visit or get together.

According to the "New Member Handbook" it states that "One-Bedroom Vacation Homes have one bathroom and can accoomodate up to four Guests plus one child under age three in a portable crib."

According to the "Product Understanding Checklist" it states that "Occupancy in DVC Resort Vacation Homes is limited to 4 persons in a Studio or 1-Bedroom, 8 persons in a 2-bedroom, and 12 persons in a 3-Bedroom."

Neither place says anything about SLEEPING a certain number of people.

I'm not trying to start an arguement, and believe me, I understand the opposing position. But, if DVC rules only apply to "overnight" guests (which it does NOT say), what is the limit to "DAY" guests? Can I, staying in a studio, invite over 2 or 3 friends for the day? How about 5? 10? 20? 50? 200?

If I'm staying cash onsite (non DVC site), I am NOT permitted to use the DVC facilities, even though I'm a DVC member. Should non-DVC members NOT staying at a DVC property, or even on site, be permitted to use DVC facilities?

I submit that the occupancy limits placed on the room(s) are there 24 hours a day, not just when the sun sets.

 

[Halle]

I think having a large number of guests at one of the quiet pools is unfair to other DVCers. The first few years we were members ( 93-96) we encountered large groups of people at the Turtle Pond area, these people were staying elsewhere and visiting other friends and family members. Chairs were hard to come by and the pools was overcrowded. I hope OP has a nice reunion with their family but.....I feel it should be at a park, other family members home or rent out a venue.