Family party in villa

[rayelias]

I hope you are never in a DVC villa and require the need of EMT's that would put you over the max in a room.

Or heaven forbid something breaks in the room and you need it repaired I hope somone leaves so the people can all come in to fix it LOL. It seems silly actually could youimagine having to send the wife or kids out of the room while they fixed the dishwasher or something just to be sure you didn't have 6 people in your 1 bedroom or whatever the case may be.

These are not OCCUPANTS. Having an extra person in your room for 20 minutes is not the same as having 20 extra people for 8 hours. This is not that difficult!

There is a huge difference between having 5 people in a 1-BR and 15 in a 1-BR.


STILL, I am waiting for the answer to my questions:

1. If 15 is alright, how about 20? How about 50? How about 100? What is the limit? And is it an arbitrary number based on who you talk to or who you are or what you're doing?

2. Why is a DVC member paying cash at a non-DVC resort NOT allowed to use the DVC facilities, yet you feel "guests" (whatever # that may be) of people staying at DVC are permitted to use the facilities.



Doc, I appreciate your response about the maid being an occupant, but a maid is NOT using DVC services. They are an "employee" (or CM), not a "guest".

And, I agree, the FINAL word is what MS allows and agrees to. And, I have no problem with that. I'm just trying to find what the boundaries are and why some people have different rules apply towards them - for example, question #2 above. I feel, the best, and fairest way to accomodate every one of the 90,000 DVC members (and cash guests of DVC resorts) is to have everyone play by the same rules.


Let's say this party does not get out of hand (and I'm sure it wouldn't). But, what if it bothers another guest (who is following the rules)? Maybe they're trying to have their infant take a nap? Maybe they're just grouches? Shouldn't THAT guest be entitled to the same enjoyment as any other? What if it bothers 2 guests? What if it bothers 10? This is the reason there are rules and guidelines in place.

What are the guidelines? Where do you make the limits? I was simply saying, to be fair to everyone, the DVC rules that we agreed to should be followed.

I would bet if I posed the following question, the responses would be completely different.

"My company is having a conference in the Orlando area, and I will be staying at OKW with my spouse in a studio. I wanted to have my co-workers over for a party lasting from 10AM-9PM. There are about 800 of them, but there should be no more than 200 at a time. What do you think?"

or how about this one...

"My motorcycle gang is going to be down for Bike Week. On the way back, I am staying at OKW with my woman in a studio. I wanted to have my buddies over for a party lasting from 10AM-9PM. There are about 500 of them, but there should be no more than 100 at a time. What do you think?"

or how about this one...

"My Christian Retreat is going to be down in Orlando trying to share the love of Jesus Christ, our savior with the homeless, drug addicts, and criminals. I am staying at BCV, and want to invite groups of approximately 20 at a time of these unfortunate souls to BCV to talk about accepting Jesus as their savior."

 

[RweTHEREyet]

give me a break.. Officially going on my ignore list now.

 

[rayelias]

Everyone, PLEASE don't misunderstand me. As far as I'm concerned, as long as MS says it's OK, I'm completely fine with it. Actually, I wish the best to the OP and hope they have a fantastic time!

I am simply trying to "debate" this and offer different alternatives so that everyone can think about the boundaries with regards to this issue.

I'm NOT opposed to this (again, so long as MS approves it) and I'm not trying to get it stopped or would consider suggesting the OP does anything to change their plans.

Just trying to look at ALL sides of the issue and offer different scenarios.

 

[MiaSRN62]

STILL, I am waiting for the answer to my questions:
1. If 15 is alright, how about 20? How about 50? How about 100? What is the limit? And is it an arbitrary number based on who you talk to or who you are or what you're doing?

The OP clearly stated that they spoke with MS and mentioned 15 would be attending a graduation party/get-together. No mention of use of pool or having additional party guests attend. The guests are clearly not staying overnight. I'll bet the party lasts 4-5 hours tops. I don't see anything wrong with this. I'm having family over in our OKW villa in August as well. They will be staying several hours I'm sure and we will be over the 8 in a 2 bedroom occupancy. But if this is just a day visit, I'll never be convinced that anyone is going over any occupany limits ? I most certainly won't rent a GV just for that day so my family can visit for a few hours. I just don't see it. I highly doubt anyone would attempt to fit 50 or 100 in a 1 bedroom (or even a 2 bedroom). What type of enjoyment would they derive from this ? I feel the OP set a comfortable limit for the OKW 1 bedroom (these are very large villas with plenty of seating---on par with all the other DVC 2 bedroom units). And the OKW balconies are very roomy.

2. Why is a DVC member paying cash at a non-DVC resort NOT allowed to use the DVC facilities, yet you feel "guests" (whatever # that may be) of people staying at DVC are permitted to use the facilities.

Perhaps noone addressed this issue is because the OP (WDWCRAZY32) never even mentioned venturing outside the villa in their original post I don't think MS would give their blessing for the OP's guests to use the pool for instance. Heck, they don't even allow pool-hopping for registered Members sometimes. I think MS simply stated it was ok for the OP to have 15 day guests in the 1 bedroom villa for the grad party. We haven't heard back from the OP.....I think they're a tad spooked now.....it's a shame. I'm sure they would have been a respectful group. Just the fact that they felt the inclination to post their plans here on these boards shows they have respect for what others think.

 

[crisi]

I wouldn't.....because a lot of people bring kids back to nap mid day because the resorts are quiet....and there is no way 15 people are going to be quiet enough for a three year old to nap in the room below you. Although, if you were at the BW overlooking Luna Park, they couldn't hear you anyway.

 

[KarenP99]

Let's say this party does not get out of hand (and I'm sure it wouldn't). But, what if it bothers another guest (who is following the rules)? Maybe they're trying to have their infant take a nap? Maybe they're just grouches? Shouldn't THAT guest be entitled to the same enjoyment as any other? What if it bothers 2 guests? What if it bothers 10? This is the reason there are rules and guidelines in place.

As a mom of a 3 kids 3 & under, I can understand the nap thing...HOWEVER, the loud & rowdy group next door could just as easlily be members with 3 loud kids, or a wailing infant...or a loud boisterous husband, or a screaming wife....

Disturbances can and will happen, you just need to be prepared and not set your expectations to high. To expect complete quiet when staying in a hotel/motel/villa...whatever is a bit unrealistic.

I say the party in the villa is fine, just be responsible! Then again, the people that would be less than that, probably wouldn't have posed the question in the first place. Enjoy & congrats!

Karen

 

[CharlesTD]

rayelias I do believe Doc answered this earlier on and as for the question I have no problem with somone having 20 30 40 or a 100 people in the room. If they are having a get together etc so be it occupation is overnight guests not daytime visitors.

 

[married@wdw]

STILL, I am waiting for the answer to my questions:

1. If 15 is alright, how about 20? How about 50? How about 100? What is the limit? And is it an arbitrary number based on who you talk to or who you are or what you're doing?

2. Why is a DVC member paying cash at a non-DVC resort NOT allowed to use the DVC facilities, yet you feel "guests" (whatever # that may be) of people staying at DVC are permitted to use the facilities.

1. I'm sure there is an actual occupancy limits (not just sleeps xx) set for each DVC room size, set by the Reedy Creek the way they do for restaurant, elevators, etc. Obviously, any party could not exceed these numbers. (Read, your 200 people is probably out by those standards). If by chance a DVC member was having a party that in my mind was "out of hand," I'd simply call the front desk to speak with the resort manager and ask that HE handle the situation. Isn't that how you'd handle any problem at any resort?

2. They are not really asking to use the "facilities" -- well, except for maybe the bathroom. These partygoers will be in a room. No pool use. No grill use. No health club use. No shuffle board use. No playground use. I guess they'll be using some electricity...putting wear on the furniture that might cut it's life expectancy by a few minutes. Hmmm -- I guess I should be concerned about the flooring replacement too! That's a lot of feet. (I hope everyone reads the sarcasm in that!) Actually, the only concern I'd have about this was if they took up too many parking spaces, so that there weren't any left for people in other rooms nearby. We solved this by having our guests carpool or use Disney transportation. So, I guess I see this as a non-issue.

All of that said, I guess I've been very lucky. I'd say I've had about 25 DVC vacation in the last 10 years and I've never been bothered by the people on either side of me (or above or below me for that matter). We've stayed everywhere but BCV and I think the villas are fairly quiet, even when we've had young children next door.

 

[RobDoc]

These are not OCCUPANTS. Having an extra person in your room for 20 minutes is not the same as having 20 extra people for 8 hours. This is not that difficult!

OK, then where is your cutoff point on time? Since you have defined 1 extra person for 20 minutes as acceptable and 20 extras for 8 hours not, what is YOUR personal allowance???
I saw no mention from the OP that there would be 20 extra people for 8 hours ... or are you creating extraeme scenarios merely to empasize your postion?

STILL, I am waiting for the answer to my questions:

1. If 15 is alright, how about 20? How about 50? How about 100? What is the limit? And is it an arbitrary number based on who you talk to or who you are or what you're doing?

2. Why is a DVC member paying cash at a non-DVC resort NOT allowed to use the DVC facilities, yet you feel "guests" (whatever # that may be) of people staying at DVC are permitted to use the facilities.

1. Call MS and the resort directly, since they are the ones who have already provided the approval for this specific situation. As I already stated, DVC exceeds these numbers on a daily basis already with tours and member events in the models - so, they can propbably tell you exactly what the policy may be.

2. I'm not clear about what "facilities" you are referring to - unless you mean the bathroom in the 1BR villa? I saw no mention of anyone using other "facilities" at the resort. Unless you mean the restaurant?

Let's say this party does not get out of hand (and I'm sure it wouldn't). But, what if it bothers another guest (who is following the rules)? Maybe they're trying to have their infant take a nap? Maybe they're just grouches? Shouldn't THAT guest be entitled to the same enjoyment as any other? What if it bothers 2 guests? What if it bothers 10? This is the reason there are rules and guidelines in place.

If ANY guest at ANY time is bothered by the actions of someone while in their resort room, BY ALL MEANS, call the desk at the resort and make the complaint. I saw no one here suggesting that any group deserves special treatment regarding their behavior and courtesy. I don't care if it's 2am or 2pm- if something is disturbing your stay, let the resort know about it. I have done this myself when a grandchild needed a nap and maintenance workers chose that time to start grinding paint from the stair railing outside our room. A quick call to maintenance remedied the situation immediately.

I would bet if I posed the following question, the responses would be completely different.

"My company is having a conference in the Orlando area, and I will be staying at OKW with my spouse in a studio. I wanted to have my co-workers over for a party lasting from 10AM-9PM. There are about 800 of them, but there should be no more than 200 at a time. What do you think?"

or how about this one...

"My motorcycle gang is going to be down for Bike Week. On the way back, I am staying at OKW with my woman in a studio. I wanted to have my buddies over for a party lasting from 10AM-9PM. There are about 500 of them, but there should be no more than 100 at a time. What do you think?"

or how about this one...

"My Christian Retreat is going to be down in Orlando trying to share the love of Jesus Christ, our savior with the homeless, drug addicts, and criminals. I am staying at BCV, and want to invite groups of approximately 20 at a time of these unfortunate souls to BCV to talk about accepting Jesus as their savior."

I'll go back to my earlier comments - ask the resort and/or ask MS for permission. If anyone is disturbed by the behavior of these groups, call the front desk and have them deal with the issue. There would seem to be a consistent means to handle these situations already in place - allow the resort to decide on a case-by-case basis - influenced by the needs of the group and of the resort for the time period the request is made. I don't have a problem with any of the scenarios you have manufactured here, as long as those involved are respectful of the property and any others nearby. As soon as they affect my ability to enjoy my surroundings, I'll be the first to call the front desk and allow them to deal with the situation.

 

[WDWCRAZY32]

My OP was a bit brief on details so let me be more specific.
1-15 people including myself and DW
2-We don't even use our pool's at home
3-Maximum of 3 vehicle's including mine, this is something I was concerned about
4-College graduate, no youngster's screaming and running around, I reserve that for when I bring my grandson's with me to "The Happiest Place On Earth"
5-I was actually excited to invite the family over to OKW to see how beautiful it is and enjoy the "Welcome Home" feeling.
6-In by 4 and out by 7-8
7-We are not boozers, probably some cake, sandwiches and a few congrats and everyone go home

Some comments on responses to my OP
To answer one posters question repeated over and over I'll turn it around- If 11(=room occ.4 + 11) is not OK then why is 1?

Someone commented about flushing the toilet-Lets fill up that 60 gallon bath tub with hot water for a 15 minute bath which = about 30 flushes. I'll ask DW to skip the tub 1 night and take a shower, Makes sense to me!

Most of the responses to my OP were Go for it, some were not and they are entitled to they're opinion. DW and I refer to these people as "Condo Commando's", no matter what you do they WILL FIND something to complain about, car parked crooked, car in front of MY unit, TV to loud, kids yelling and running in the hallways. Wake up and welcome to the real world, It's not just about YOU. I do respect other peoples privacy and rights and thats part of why I called DVC and MS and also posted here to get other peoples feelings.

Hopefully if this family gathering does happen they will come away with the "Happiest Place On Earth" and "Welcome Home" feeling I get with each stay, as long as I don't run into the "Commando".

 

[RobDoc]

Thanks for the follow-up clarification!

Welcome Home, enjoy the sandwiches and Congratulations to the new graduate!

Enjoy the time together!

 

[ddave]

I'll go back to my earlier comments - ask the resort and/or ask MS for permission. If anyone is disturbed by the behavior of these groups, call the front desk and have them deal with the issue. There would seem to be a consistent means to handle these situations already in place - allow the resort to decide on a case-by-case basis - influenced by the needs of the group and of the resort for the time period the request is made. I don't have a problem with any of the scenarios you have manufactured here, as long as those involved are respectful of the property and any others nearby. As soon as they affect my ability to enjoy my surroundings, I'll be the first to call the front desk and allow them to deal with the situation.

The sound of reason! Let's not go overboard.
:thewave:


Thank you WDWCRAZY32 for clarifying. All of what you stated sounds reasonable to me. You have done your due diligence with Disney. I would not hesitate doing anything that you stated.

Enjoy, and Congratulations on your graduate.

In the imortal words of Bill and Ted. Party on!

 

[mom2alix]

My OP was a bit brief on details so let me be more specific.
1-15 people including myself and DW
2-We don't even use our pool's at home
3-Maximum of 3 vehicle's including mine, this is something I was concerned about
4-College graduate, no youngster's screaming and running around, I reserve that for when I bring my grandson's with me to "The Happiest Place On Earth"
5-I was actually excited to invite the family over to OKW to see how beautiful it is and enjoy the "Welcome Home" feeling.
6-In by 4 and out by 7-8
7-We are not boozers, probably some cake, sandwiches and a few congrats and everyone go home

Some comments on responses to my OP
To answer one posters question repeated over and over I'll turn it around- If 11(=room occ.4 + 11) is not OK then why is 1?

Someone commented about flushing the toilet-Lets fill up that 60 gallon bath tub with hot water for a 15 minute bath which = about 30 flushes. I'll ask DW to skip the tub 1 night and take a shower, Makes sense to me!

Most of the responses to my OP were Go for it, some were not and they are entitled to they're opinion. DW and I refer to these people as "Condo Commando's", no matter what you do they WILL FIND something to complain about, car parked crooked, car in front of MY unit, TV to loud, kids yelling and running in the hallways. Wake up and welcome to the real world, It's not just about YOU. I do respect other peoples privacy and rights and thats part of why I called DVC and MS and also posted here to get other peoples feelings.

Hopefully if this family gathering does happen they will come away with the "Happiest Place On Earth" and "Welcome Home" feeling I get with each stay, as long as I don't run into the "Commando".

Sounds like a nice party. Congratulations to your graduate and I'm sure your family will be really impressed with how nice your home away from home is!

 

[BEACHCLUBVILLAS]

Don't let anyone rain on your parade. Have fun. Enjoy your friends and family. Show them your beautiful home. Ignore Commando's.

 

[JudithM]

5-I was actually excited to invite the family over to OKW to see how beautiful it is and enjoy the "Welcome Home" feeling.

Please don't let folks here discourage you & your family from having a wonderful time together & celebrating a positive accomplishment! If you need more guests in your unit, I volunteer !! I still say go for it & I'll be next door !!

Someone commented about flushing the toilet ... I'll ask DW to skip the tub 1 night and take a shower, Makes sense to me!

No, no, no! Don't make your wife skip the tub! I know I enjoy the jacuzzi almost every evening while at WDW ! That is one of the benefits of a unit larger than a studio.

DW and I refer to these people as "Condo Commando's", no matter what you do they WILL FIND something to complain about

You are so right! No matter how hard one tries, somebody has to find fault... Life is too short .. you never know what will happen tomorrow, so enjoy today to the fullest!!

 

[Disney Doll]

I would bet if I posed the following question, the responses would be completely different.

"My company is having a conference in the Orlando area, and I will be staying at OKW with my spouse in a studio. I wanted to have my co-workers over for a party lasting from 10AM-9PM. There are about 800 of them, but there should be no more than 200 at a time. What do you think?"

or how about this one...

"My motorcycle gang is going to be down for Bike Week. On the way back, I am staying at OKW with my woman in a studio. I wanted to have my buddies over for a party lasting from 10AM-9PM. There are about 500 of them, but there should be no more than 100 at a time. What do you think?"

or how about this one...

"My Christian Retreat is going to be down in Orlando trying to share the love of Jesus Christ, our savior with the homeless, drug addicts, and criminals. I am staying at BCV, and want to invite groups of approximately 20 at a time of these unfortunate souls to BCV to talk about accepting Jesus as their savior."

Are you kidding me? Do you have a lick of common sense????

Stop yourself and look at what you wrote above. There is a big difference between 15 in a 1BR and 100 in a studio.

This is actually so ridiculous, I don't even know why I am replying.

To the OP...I am an owner at OKW...430 points. As far as I am concerned, you should have your party of 15 people and enjoy yourselves.

 

[Doctor P]

The OP doesn't like condo commandos. I don't like people who take advantage of hotel accomodations and their neighboring guests by having parties in rental properties. That said, I think the OP has thought things through quite well and seems to have a reasonable perspective on things. If they were this clear and seemingly considerate when they talked with MS, I understand why there wouldn't be a problem. I would still consider having guests park by HH to reduce any possibility of parking problems. Have a great time!

 

[GGOOFY1]

I say have a great party. With the new slide in the featured pool, parking by the HH is congested enough. I say park by Downtown Disney, rent a pontoon and pick up your party there. I have friends who go down with us and stay scattered throughout the property, we always gather in our 2-bedroom villa for dinner before we hit the parks again.

It would be a disadvantage for MS to say no, it is a sales pitch. It is exposure, bring in additional families that might not have seen the property if not for the family gathering.

Congrats on the graduation and have a great time

 

[RweTHEREyet]

I would still consider having guests park by HH to reduce any possibility of parking problems.

Parking at the HH has always been limited, now with the new slide at the pool, I bet it is even more so. It makes more sense to ask Guests to park in the parking lot near the villa.

 

[dianeschlicht]

Seems to me it is time to let this thread go. The OP is having a simple graduation get together for a few people in their "home" away from home. There will be two extra cars for a few hours. Let them park outside their villa and forget about it. I think the OP has done exactly the right thing by asking MS and limiting the number of cars.