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[mommatomase]

Toodycat... that is just too darn funny....

Can't say Mase has ever done that...

 

[leebee]

I don't have any advice except you are still cracking me up! It may be quiet today at everyone's houses but I should have known there was action at kampfirekim's house! Sorry for the poop issues, though! My cat has decided to pee in my house after 10 years if that makes you feel any better! And there is nothing worse than cat pee!

My cat too... what IS it with the cats? Sorry, KFK, can't help you with the kid! REally, I was reading your post about you son and thinking about my cat and being thankful that it was only the cat and darned if the next post wasn't about iwrbnd's cat!!

 

[kampfirekim]

"If you don't give me ice cream I'll pop your head off"

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I SAID THIS MYSELF! This one needs to be inducted into some sort of top 10 phrases of Schmolland!

BTW, Welcome to the Schmolland "Crazy Train"!

Hey everyone! Maybe we need to add that one to the playlist! I've never really been an Ozzy fan, but somehow this one seems appropriate!

Welcome C&G'sMama!Glad you're here!


Kampfirekim, once again, I'm dying laughing!Sorry you were at the Schmolland races but at least we have a winner! Happy Birthday to your other son!I love this quote! I need to learn it, too!

He's definately a winner! .......and a very fast runner too. Thanks for the b'day wishes.

Does anyone else's kid pick words or phrases he or she really likes and just throw them into conversation? I don't mean echolalia. My guy's all time favorite is "hemoglobin" which he prefers to articulate with a Swedish chef accent. But, this week, he's working "perestroika" in as well.
Any clues?

I have now found myself saying "hemoglobin" in my best Swedish accent. (My cousin married a Swede, which makes this even funnier in my mind!)

KFK... what if... and I say what if you would start making DS clean up his own mess??? Supervised of course AND run the rug shampooer??? Just a thought.

Good day here... no 5 alarms today!

While I normally do make him clean up behind himself. I am very afraid of giving him control of a snicker bar. I have the dry heaves just picturing how that saga would end. He likes to squish other things with that sort of texture and I don't see how this would be any different. Having him help with the shampooing process may be doable...or maybe have him spray and scrub with a brush would be an alternative as he may find using the shampooer fun which may cause i'ts own set of problems in the future.

Great news that there were no five alarm moments yesterday!

My boychik uses big words correctly most of the time. What I mean is that he finds a word that he enjoys and adds it to things to be silly as in "cupcakes, brownies and hemoglobin" or "golf, tennis and perestroika." There was a brief period where he would throw in "and it's healthy for your colon" at the end of sentences. I believe he is doing this to be funny, but it is awfully offbeat. We had to have a little talk about the healthy colon thing, in particular. I was wondering if anyone else's kids did anything similar---doubtful--- or I should say, similarly strange?

Oh my goodness! That is hysterically hysterical! ...and funny too! Yes, my son does stuff like that too.....my neurotypical that is! (He's not on the spectrum, but he can be a little offbeat.)

My cat too... what IS it with the cats? Sorry, KFK, can't help you with the kid! REally, I was reading your post about you son and thinking about my cat and being thankful that it was only the cat and darned if the next post wasn't about iwrbnd's cat!!

Ya'll have your cats. I have Neurochallenged puppy/goat-boy!

DS NOW 7's birthday party was a "splashing" success....it was a pool party. The rain started to pour 15-20 minutes before the party, but at the stroke of 1:00 the rainclouds parted and the sun shone bright. It looked like something right out of the bible! Then when the party was scheduled to be over, mom looked up and said, "Lord, please give us just one more hour of sunshine." Exactly one hour later, to the minute, the rain returned! Wow! DS had around 14 kids to show up, little schmutch boy was in perfect form (for him)...even seemed almost typical for most of the day. The angels sang and the people rejoiced! Hoping for another good one today! Well, off to get ready for church....better go sing my Hallelujah's for such a great day yesterday and for ALL of my blessings! Hope you all have a fantastic day!

 

[toodycat]

I have now found myself saying "hemoglobin" in my best Swedish accent. (My cousin married a Swede, which makes this even funnier in my mind!)


Uh-oh. Don't start doing the healthy colon thing...

 

[iwrbnd]

My boychik uses big words correctly most of the time. What I mean is that he finds a word that he enjoys and adds it to things to be silly as in "cupcakes, brownies and hemoglobin" or "golf, tennis and perestroika." There was a brief period where he would throw in "and it's healthy for your colon" at the end of sentences. I believe he is doing this to be funny, but it is awfully offbeat. We had to have a little talk about the healthy colon thing, in particular. I was wondering if anyone else's kids did anything similar---doubtful--- or I should say, similarly strange?

No, but your little guy sounds funny! My DS11 uses very large words which sound a little odd. Like, I was looking for his socks in the drawer and he said "Let me navigate through and I'll find them." Kids don't talk that way! Let me see if I can remember a few more...I asked him which hat looked better and he said "They both have the same density so I'll go with Nike." Okay, one more when we were ice-skating and he kept getting stuck in the ice divets, he said "It's not fun because I keep getting stuck in recently made tracks." Everything he says is completely appropriate, it's just more encyclopedic! (Is that a word?) When we saw the new version of Escape to Witch Mountain our whole family laughed how the kids talked like my DS11.

We've gotten some good giggles from it all!


kampfirekim, glad your party was a success!

 

[kampfirekim]

I have now found myself saying "hemoglobin" in my best Swedish accent. (My cousin married a Swede, which makes this even funnier in my mind!)


Uh-oh. Don't start doing the healthy colon thing...

I've already been known to say that! Never underestimate the power of a healthy colon!

No, but your little guy sounds funny! My DS11 uses very large words which sound a little odd. Like, I was looking for his socks in the drawer and he said "Let me navigate through and I'll find them." Kids don't talk that way! Let me see if I can remember a few more...I asked him which hat looked better and he said "They both have the same density so I'll go with Nike." Okay, one more when we were ice-skating and he kept getting stuck in the ice divets, he said "It's not fun because I keep getting stuck in recently made tracks." Everything he says is completely appropriate, it's just more encyclopedic! (Is that a word?) When we saw the new version of Escape to Witch Mountain our whole family laughed how the kids talked like my DS11.

We've gotten some good giggles from it all!


kampfirekim, glad your party was a success!

I am not kidding....my NT DS7 talks "encyclopedic" too. Very technical that one is! (He gets it from his dad.) Gonna have to check out the new Witch Mountain.

Thanks, the party was a lot of fun.

Boy was church a doozy today! I've already regressed from dresses, hose and heels to pants, capris,comfy shoes etc. Looks like we're going to have to continue the fashion regression to workout type clothing and sneakers! That NC/puppy-goat-boy nearly did me in this morning! Over the pew, under the pew, tried to escape the pew, but to no avail, KFK was able to avert all attempts at an escape! He even tried to climb over other church members to get out. Plenty of stimming, jumping, flapping. There was no spinning so it won't officially qualify as the SJFT. Weird noises were abundant. Pastor met me at my car with a great big grin and said "It's all good". Thanks....gotta love my pastor! What an awesome man! (Very understanding and has a s/n grandchild of his own.) We don't get any weird looks at church anymore.....only those sweet "poor thing" smiles with the head tilted slightly to one side. I like those.

Well gotta run, just dropped by the house on my way to moms for dinner and just had to log in a minute and say hi to all you sweet Schmollandites! HAVE A NICE DAY!

 

[mommatomase]

KFK... we stopped going to church because we DID get the dirty looks and the minister just wasn't helping... so I homechurch too... that goodness for my grandma and all she taught me...
Glad the party turned out well... any sweet tea?

Today has been another good one here... Dh and Mase put the chicks out without a hitch! The "roof" caved in on the box and no panic! They will be transitioned into the flock tonight so no more dragging them in and out everyday... one less meltdown potential... (where is the sigh of relief icon?)

 

[iwrbnd]

KFK... we stopped going to church because we DID get the dirty looks and the minister just wasn't helping... so I homechurch too... that goodness for my grandma and all she taught me...
Glad the party turned out well... any sweet tea?

Today has been another good one here... Dh and Mase put the chicks out without a hitch! The "roof" caved in on the box and no panic! They will be transitioned into the flock tonight so no more dragging them in and out everyday... one less meltdown potential... (where is the sigh of relief icon?)

Do you have chickens for eggs? I think that's neat.

I've been pretty upset this week over the Conklin Dairy Farm incident...Google it if you don't know about it but let me warn you, the video is horrific and I couldn't watch it! Anyway, it's made me re-evaluate where my food comes from. I've decided not to support large factory farms anymore and only buy from local farmers. I asked on fb where people in my town get local food. I found it interesting that EVERY family that eats local food has children in the gifted program. Then last night I mentioned it to a lady I don't really know and she said she only buys meat/eggs/milk from local farmers. When I asked why she said "I'm a microbiologist and I've seen the damage that____(insert big unknown word here) does to meat and the effect it has on the body, like cancer and autism." What??? Has anyone heard this? I was changing my eating habits to be more humane (thinking small farms would treat their animals better) but now I'm wondering if it really is that much healthier. Does anyone do this and have you heard any links of autism to the food chain? Just curious.

 

[koolaidmoms]

I have also been lurking around and just have to say I love the idea of home church!

My children go to religious ed. but we avoid church like the plague because last time we went DS (7) started screaming - "This place is BORING!" repeatedly in front of the priest. Needless to say as we got up for communion we did not make the right turn to go down to the aisle but rather made a quick left out the door. Haven't been back since.

But, this gives me tons of ideas. Thanks!

 

[iwrbnd]

There is nothing wrong with "home-church" (I visited Reverend Sheets and Bedside Baptist this morning) however, some churches are better with children of special needs than others. You just may need to do a little church shopping. Ours is very good and includes/accepts all children. Good luck!

 

[It'sWDW4me]

I think I posted on this thread a while back but I just read up to page 22. It's so nice to finally know the name of the land I've been living in for 14 years now. I've enjoyed reading how so many of you can take some very frustrating times and spin them into stories that you just have to laugh with.

But, truth be told, right now I'm heartbroken for my DS and I don't know what to do. He was diagnosed ADHD at age 4, took Concerta for years until he developed tics, diagnosed Aspberger's at around age 11. My ex and his second wife convinced DS that he really didn't need meds - there's nothing wrong with him. Ex didn't go to the Dr appts, weekly counseling appts, and only had DS every other weekend but he *knew* there wasn't a problem. Ex's second wife *knows* that I just need to change DS's diet and I can rent that UHaul and move right on out of Schmolland. Well, after years of hearing this from his "always right" step-mother, he stopped taking meds regularly about 2 years ago.

When it was time for him to start school (kindergarten) I didn't think he was ready so I held him back a year. Add in the fact that his birthday is at the beginning of May, he's on the older side of his class's age range. He's 14 and is just finishing up 7th grade. I don't know if he'll pass this year. If he does pass, and if he continues to progress through the grades, he will be 19 when he graduates high school. If he doesn't pass the year but if he learns the lesson on flunking and progresses through the rest, he'll be 20 when he graduates. At this point, I'm not so sure he'll graduate from HS at all.

School has ALWAYS been the bane of his existence. He's smart. Very smart. How smart we don't know because he simply refuses to take an IQ test. In fact, the school psychiatrist was trying to get him to answer some simple questions to get him talking to her and he just clammed up. Wouldn't answer anything. School is stupid, pointless, boring, etc, etc. He won't work on classwork and is peeved when he's expected to complete it at home. He won't work on it until I get home from work because he "needs help" but he can sit and do most of it by himself once I make him get started. I'm exhausted with the daily struggle.

I've given up on projects. He won't bring home the project description/directions or, if he does, he has no idea what it means. If I give suggestions, he'll shoot them down - DS "That's not what the teacher wants." Me - "Ok, what does the teacher want?" DS - "I don't know." Me - "Well, the directions say to write a paragraph about you. You've got your brown belt in karate; you hold a First-Class rank in Boy Scouts..." DS - "That's not what she wants!" We went round and around that gem for about half an hour one night until I, very literally, went outside screaming in frustration.

I went to the school for "Achievement Night." I don't know why I went. The kids' projects are showcased for parents to oooo and aahhhh over. There was nothing for me to see. I left in tears after 10 minutes.

He'll answer questions on tests and/or graded homework with either "IDK" (I don't know) or intentionally incorrect answers. On a map, what does a curvy/squggly blue line indicate? A - a mountain; B - a plateau; C - a plain; D - a river. He marked B. I guess it would behoove me to mention that this is the same boy who has been in scouts since first grade. They've had many, many, many meetings in which they've reviewed map-reading. He knows that this indicates a river.

When he was in 5th grade, an IEP was developed for him. He was in regular classes but spent homeroom and last period in the behavioral education room. Same set-up for 6th grade. Not quite mid-way through 7th grade - sometime during the 2nd marking period, he became very disruptive in classes and he had a very poor grade in Reading. For the rest of his classes he had figured out how to keep his grade just this side of passing - no more, no less. It's decided that he'll now be spending his reading class in the behavioral ed classroom. He calls it the "retard room". His 3rd marking period grades were the worst ever - I think his highest was a 50 or so. Faced with the imminent peril of flunking 7th grade, he started off the 4th marking period with grades I know he can get all the time. But I don't think it's enough - too little, too late. I think I'm finally coming to grips with the fact that, by all rights, he should flunk 7th grade.

This is so heartbreaking for me to watch. He could and should be getting A's & B's with an occasional C. He's capable. He's unmotivated to do so. He says he wants to be a veterinarian. He says he wants to be in the College Program at Disney. These are goals that he could achieve, but, with every report card, I see them fading from his future.

Oh, I guess I should mention that he finally acknowledged that he focused easier when he was on meds. He's been taking Strattera and Abilify for the past month or so now. A step in the right direction, at least.

I know this is long and, quite frankly, I can't remember exactly what my original point was supposed to be. Maybe it's that I'm so tired of living in Schmolland. Maybe I'm feeling a bit sorry for myself. Every day I get to watch people living on the other side of the border and I wish that I could live over there, too.

 

[kampfirekim]

KFK... we stopped going to church because we DID get the dirty looks and the minister just wasn't helping... so I homechurch too... that goodness for my grandma and all she taught me...
Glad the party turned out well... any sweet tea?

Today has been another good one here... Dh and Mase put the chicks out without a hitch! The "roof" caved in on the box and no panic! They will be transitioned into the flock tonight so no more dragging them in and out everyday... one less meltdown potential... (where is the sigh of relief icon?)

I'm sorry that you're church wasn't more understanding. We've been blessed w/people who just seem to get it or at least they just love us enough to put up with it! Maybe you can find a church that is more special needs friendly. I may have mentioned it before, but our pastor has a grandchild with s/n. We also had another little boy with s/n who passed away last year at a very young age. Very tragic! There is another little boy at our church on the spectrum, but he seems very quiet and calm. Yes, thank goodness for all the grandmas out there! My grandma used to pick up me and my cousin who lived next door to us every Sunday for church.

There's ALWAYS sweet tea available!

Hooray for Mase! I don't know where the sigh of relief icon is, but will the cheerleader do? That's great news MtM! Good to know Mase and the chickens are doing well!

I have also been lurking around and just have to say I love the idea of home church!

My children go to religious ed. but we avoid church like the plague because last time we went DS (7) started screaming - "This place is BORING!" repeatedly in front of the priest. Needless to say as we got up for communion we did not make the right turn to go down to the aisle but rather made a quick left out the door. Haven't been back since.

But, this gives me tons of ideas. Thanks!

I hope you don't give up on church altogether! There are so many out there who are so very understanding and even welcoming of families with special needs. We have another church in our area who actually have s/n programs and shadows for s/n kids. Our private OT is a member there and has offered to shadow my DS if we ever decide to visit sometime. They are sponsoring a week long day camp for spectrum kids and their siblings week after next. We're already registered. They even have a parents luncheon that a friend and I will be taking advantage of.

This week I spent more time on the floor under the pew dragging out DS by the ankles than I did actually listening to the sermon. I have learned not to worry about what other people think...even at church.

There is nothing wrong with "home-church" (I visited Reverend Sheets and Bedside Baptist this morning) however, some churches are better with children of special needs than others. You just may need to do a little church shopping. Ours is very good and includes/accepts all children. Good luck!

Funny post! I agree that some churches are better than others with s/n children. Sidenote; I've been known to attend Bedside Baptist a few times myself. Some weeks I just can't force myself to endure it! ....but I am trying to do better. A sweet lady at our church encouraged me to get my kids to church as often as possible, said to "get'em under the spout where the glory comes out!" I may try taking hiim into Kid's Church. I know I can't just leave him, they're just not equipped to handle him in my view, but maybe if I stay w/him he'd like it. I've tried it before but he was a lot younger and it didn't really work out at the time. He's just so disruptive no matter what I do.

I think I posted on this thread a while back but I just read up to page 22. It's so nice to finally know the name of the land I've been living in for 14 years now. I've enjoyed reading how so many of you can take some very frustrating times and spin them into stories that you just have to laugh with.

But, truth be told, right now I'm heartbroken for my DS and I don't know what to do.

Welcome back! Sorry you're having such a rough time right now. I know I have my broken hearted moments too and we all feel a little sorry for ourselves every now and then. It's perfectly normal, and in my view, it's OK. I think your point was that you needed to get a load off your chest and that's OK too. That's how this thread got started in the first place. We'd all move back across the border if we could....at least I know I would! But that's not likely to happen so we're learning to find joy in Schmolland.....and we haven't been disappointed. Hope you find the encouragement you need here.

 

[bookwormde]

It'sWDW4me,
In one sense your ex is right, in a perfectly supporting work you child did not needs meds. Where you are is typical for an Aspie who had clinicians who lacked competency to diagnose properly at an early age and instead just gave a ADHD label and prescribed meds. It sound like his school has never been serious in properly meeting his needs by creating a proper IEP, so his incredible gifts could come forth.
There are condition where meds are on a short term helpful to bridge until a proper environment is in place,. anxiety is lowered and base skills are in place, I have never seen a child who has been "successful" after having been on meds through their childhood since virtually all stop taking them at some point once they are an adult, and have missed the opportunity to get the proper support and learn the skills that our kids need since the masked "masked" the issues just enough that no one "had to" provide the proper supports and modifications so that they could learn the self adaptive skills that our kids need to function and flourish in the NT world.
It does sound like you ex and his wife are in the "curebee" camp (in this case from diet) which is just silly. Our kids have genetics which has challenges and gifts and nothing is going to change that, all we can do is to keep them as healthy and provide them with the adaptations and supports so they can adapt to the extent they wish to interfacing with NT society and to allow their gifts to grow and be appreciated.
It is very clear that you school does not have a clue as to how to meet his needs, and has never developed and appropriate IEP for him, that is probably the best place to start by getting his EF needs properly supported by requiring a modified parallel curriculum with enough gifted content in his areas of interest so that it is not "boring" and a full and structured social skills program so that the skills can be taught so he will not have the maladaptive manifestations that the meds are damping down.
Meds are easy, but dangerous in the long term often prevent our kids from getting the help they need. At the most meds should be a bridge, while we get our kids supported adequately, which takes superhuman effort and persistence by parents.
I know it is not what you wanted to hear by I, have seen the outcomes of the road your child is on and it is not good so if the Ex has stirred thing up that is good, even if his direction is misguided (diet can help but it is just one small piece of supporting our kids).
bookwormde

 

[iwrbnd]

It'sWDW4me,

I just wanted to give you a big I'm sorry things are so hard for you! I've been in that place too many times! I'm the one who started this thread after having one of those days/weeks/months/years! My oldest is 17 and was diagnosed with ADD in first grade and somewhere around middle school aspergers was added. He has always struggled in school but there was one year in high school that we had a year like yours! It was horrible! The school even started to say he could take his GED and and just go on to college! He refused to do "busy work" and pretty much just quit! Our school is exeptional with autism so they made necessary accomodations while teaching him the adaptive skills he needed. I'm forever grateful to them! But, the main thing that happened to change things is we realized he was depressed! Now our son was taking Accutane (for acne) and depression can be a side-effect. We took him off the medicine and things improved drastically! He was a junior this year and had his best year ever! I never thought I would being saying that! The pain of that horrible school year will be with me for a long time but I'm trying to give you hope that it can get better! Do you think your son could be depressed? It's just a thought. Also, your school needs to do better! Have you ever thought of cyberschool? Some parents on this thread do that and love it. Hang in there! We're here to help you all we can! There are great listeners on this thread so you just go ahead and vent! Kampfirekim will make you laugh and bookwormde has great tangible advice plus many, many others that are just amazing! I've learned a lot from all the moms and dads on this thread! Again, from me!

 

[toodycat]

ItsWDW4ME---Welcome back! I'm sending you hugs and I'm so sorry to hear that you're suffering. I could identify with parts of your story and I know how tough it is. My DS (16) was on Concerta for a few years; he could concentrate, but it made him shy and anxious. He was already shy and anxious. We switched doctors when he turned 14 and entered high school; the new psychiatrist suggested he go off Concerta and take a little Prozac. He was less anxious and more outgoing, but he had no attention span to speak of and his grades utterly tanked. (He had been a student with grades in the 70s and 80s before that. He is bright, but has a whopping auditory processing deficit on top of PDD-NOS.)
Then, he started Strattera. Did you know one of the side effects of Strattera is oppositional behavior? Did your son's disruptive behavior in 7th grade coincide at all with the start of strattera or an increase in it? My DS, who is essentially the mild-mannered Clark Kent of the autism spectrum, started telling his teachers, "I don't feel like it," when he was asked to do his work or open his notebook.He was cranky, fidgety and uncooperative and his ability to concentrate wasn't improving, anyway. In fact, he was failing two subjects and just scraping by in the others. I was terrified that he would fail all his New York State Regents exams which he needs in order to graduate. The doctor switched him to Vyvanse. Suddenly, he wasn't cranky and he could concentrate! He passed all his exams and although his language issues still get in the way of his comprehension, this school year has been much less frustrating for both of us. You might want to speak to his doctor about his behavioral issues and their relationship to Strattera. What kind of doctor does your son see? Is it someone who specializes in autism? If his doctor is a regular psychiatrist, I would look for one who specializes in autism or a developmental pediatrician who specializes in autism. Don't depend on the school psychiatrist to be your advocate. Some of them are excellent, but some have been told by the district not to offer too many services to keep costs down.

Secondly, I agree with bookwormde that it doesn't sound as though your school district is making the proper attempts to work with your DS. Your son's school program needs to address his needs more appropriately. What they are doing now clearly isn't working. Just for starters, I would have it put on his IEP that he receives all directions for his assignments written down in detail, so that there is no question about what "the teacher wants." I'm not surprised that he dislikes projects. They often include an oral presentation to the class and most kids his age hate getting up and speaking in front of peers. He definitely needs more individualized instruction and a social skills program. I don't know how he is doing socially in school, but the fact that he rejects school so thoroughly probably means he isn't meeting with any satisfaction there intellectually or socially. Are kids teasing him? Are his teachers sarcastic to him? It sounds like he is capable and has a great deal to offer if the right program can draw it out of him. I think you have to ask for a CSE meeting to address his current situation. With his grades and feelings about school as they are, it is clear that the school is not serving him properly.Does he receive any counseling in or out of school? The emotional component of his situation needs to be addressed as well. It sounds like he's keeping a lot bottled up inside and it is just manifesting itself in rejecting school. I have taught several ASD students who went to a small school for the gifted where they were able to learn at a faster pace, but still received special attention about things like organizing their work or interacting with peers. You might have to ask your school district to provide him with a different placement.

Please don't stress about when he graduates or whether he graduates. You have plenty of time for him to make some strides before graduation. It seems like a big deal now in middle school, but in life, no one ever asks you what year you graduated high school or whether you were left back. I've taught kids who were 19 and 20 and still in high school for all kinds of reasons. One was a twin with a learning disability; he and his brother were held back. Another was from another country and the school he attended didn't have the courses that we require here. They're both gainfully employed, happy adults now. I've had several ASD or ADHD students whose moms thought they weren't going to make it out of high school; one owns his own lighting business and another, who had attentional problems all over the place but was also an Eagle Scout, is a very high ranking marketing executive for a prestigious hotel chain. Another has a good job in NYC and a nice girlfriend; that kid used to sit in the back of my classroom, banging his head. I've even had one student who didn't graduate and got her GED, but she is in nursing school now. Once she completes her nursing studies, no one is ever going to ask her whether or not she graduated high school again.

Also, stay away from things like "achievement night." That's not healthy for you and your kiddo has his achievements like a brown belt and his first class scout rating outside of school. My guy is also a brown belt and he likes fencing, but those are both out of school activities. Moms like us get our proud moments outside of school a lot of the time. That's OK.

Anyway, the first thing i would do would be to see if it is Strattera that is making him more disruptive and oppositional.

I'm sending hugs and good vibes your way. Stay strong.

 

[bookwormde]

I agree that depression can be an issue since I kids are doing double duty all the times escpecially at school, zoloft is a good mild safe antidepresent that seem to have good success with our kids. OF course getting the the root cause is the top priority.

I also would not be overly concerned about "educational paperwork", for those who just want paper, our kids a rarely a good fit, it takes soemone who really appriciates their special gifts and tallents.

We all know how hard it is and how much work it is to get our kids what they needs, so hang in there, there is nothing more important that you will do for your child, and for society at large if you can get him to the point where he can share his gifts

bookwormde

 

[mommatomase]

ItsWDW4me,

I am about 20 miles north of you in PA... Have you looked into cyber school for your son? The districts in our area are notorious for not wanting to help Aspie children...

We have been cyber schooling for two years now and Mase (finishing 4th grade) LOVES school now!!!

They pretest and place the kids where they need to be AND they listen to parents... at least the one we use does...

Hugs to you for feeling overwhelmed... you have come to the right place!

 

[mommatomase]

Iwrbd....

I have 19 chickens and they are so much fun... 13 are babies... well, we call them teenagers... and the other 6 are our "ladies".

Mase has really taken to them this spring and he is the official "chicken herder" and his trusty corgi named Biscuit....

Between the chickens and Biscuit, Mase is a new kiddo... I truly believe that animals and Aspies belong on the same planet... and I say that in a very loving way...

KFK, I like MtM... much easier.

 

[mommatomase]

OK LADIES AND GENTLEMAN... I need your help.

Long story short... a little boy who was our neighbor was born 2lbs 13oz., fifteen years ago... he was a true inspiration to all the neighborhood. We moved away five years ago, but only 10 miles. He was diagnosed with Russel Silver Syndrome (petite dwarfism) in infancy and had lots of sensory issues... other than that... perfectly healthy! Until two week ago.. they thought he had pnemonia... turns out he has lyphoma cancer in his whole torso... Would you be so kind as to keep this little boy, his younger brother (also Russel Silver) and his parents in your prayers...

Thank you....

 

[kampfirekim]

Iwrbd....

I have 19 chickens and they are so much fun... 13 are babies... well, we call them teenagers... and the other 6 are our "ladies".

Mase has really taken to them this spring and he is the official "chicken herder" and his trusty corgi named Biscuit....

Between the chickens and Biscuit, Mase is a new kiddo... I truly believe that animals and Aspies belong on the same planet... and I say that in a very loving way...

KFK, I like MtM... much easier.

I am having a SERIOUS BFF! Would you believe I just looked back at previous posts to figure out what you meant! Duh! You like the abbreviation! Talk about a double brain fluff!

We used to have chickens in our driveway every morning. We don't know where they came from or where they went to, but like clockwork they were there every day! Very strange.

I agree about dogs and spectrumies belonging on the same planet. We've considered a dog for our boys. Schmutch boy especially likes dogs. We had two who passed away less than a year apart a few years back and we haven't been able to convince ourselves to take on the responsibility of another dog.

OK LADIES AND GENTLEMAN... I need your help.

Long story short... a little boy who was our neighbor was born 2lbs 13oz., fifteen years ago... he was a true inspiration to all the neighborhood. We moved away five years ago, but only 10 miles. He was diagnosed with Russel Silver Syndrome (petite dwarfism) in infancy and had lots of sensory issues... other than that... perfectly healthy! Until two week ago.. they thought he had pnemonia... turns out he has lyphoma cancer in his whole torso... Would you be so kind as to keep this little boy, his younger brother (also Russel Silver) and his parents in your prayers...

Thank you....

Sure will!