Ever stop to think about "coincidences" and "what ifs"?

I believe that God directs our actions just as sure I am know I'm sitting here answering a man who chooses not to "hear" the directions.

There are many things in the world that I can not understand why they happen....like losing a child....but I know in my heart that everything happens for a reason and one day, not in the too near future (I hope! ;) ) I will understand. Not understanding NOW does not mean I do not think all events in life have a greater purpose....even people who choose not to hear have a reason to be.:)
 
It is the natural order of things. You can not have good without bad, life without death etc. The only way we grow as humans is to have opposits. I believe in God. Our bodies are made to fail in many ways ie cancers, heart issues etc. Our choices in free will causes bad things........drinking to kill when driving, getting a gun and killing some one....etc. Pure physics, every thing has an equal and opposit reaction. Just as good things happen.

These issues and others are not because God wills it. God does not want bad things to happen. But they will happen and what a person does in those instances is what makes a person stronger or defeats them. There, for me is where God is. When in the natural course of life I have to get my strenghth from God when bad things happen.

I am glad the Kristy's hubby was there to help that woman. That is what I call a Godinstance. And i do believe in those.;)
 
Originally posted by 6_Time_Momma


Long time no debate, Silky! ;)

No "debate" from me, 6-Time......... it's not tolerated on the CB:D. BTW, Congratulations on your pregnancy!!!!!!

If people can make sense of the chaos and suffering by calling upon faith, then more power to them.
 
My family considers "fate" or God had a huge impact on oour lives.
My Dad died suddenly when we were all teens,then my Mom's Dad passed 6 months later. Mom decided then to move us from the large city we lived in our whole lives to a smaller town to live with her very ill Mother ,who died a short time later.

We all stayed in this town,settled in this community and met and married our spouses here,raised our families here.If my Dad hadn't died, our lives would have been completely different, and maybe not as happy as we all are.:D
 
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Originally posted by Evil Princess
I'm not going to turn this into some kind of religious debate, which is the direction I see it going in :)

Of course that's the direction this is going to go. Mrs. Silky has "ordained" it that way :) I don't plan to give her any amunition!

Is it time to move this to the debate boards?
 
Obviously he was meant to be there
and I'm glad he was for the poor women's sake
 
"Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds." :D

Franklin D. Roosevelt
 
Originally posted by 6_Time_Momma
See, I can see God choosing to cause things that seem horrible and unfair. I don't claim to know the reason, but I do believe He does it with purpose and that the purpose it ultimately good. It seems that "bad" things happening is one of people's biggest stumbling blocks to believing in God, doesn't it?

Long time no debate, Silky! ;)

Oh my goodness, no...the God I know is the one I lean on. I couldn't lean on a God that chooses horrible or unfair things to happen to me.

Things happen. Life happens. Death happens.......yes, I see things like what happened to your husband as a simple coincidence. It's great your hubby had good hearing, but on the flip side, how many times MIGHT he have gone out for a run and NOT heard someone crying out for help? Those ones, you don't KNOW about.....
there are nice life-saving coincidences that happen, and there are just as many tragic ones.........I don't believe any are planned just as I don't believe that God picked out one person to be my mate for the rest of my life. LOL
 
I truly believe that everything happens for a reason - good or bad. I also believe in a loving and caring God. I don't however want a debate as I also believe that everyone should be free to believe what they want.

I'm glad Kristy's DH was there for that woman. I think it was meant to be.
 
Through my own father's death I found life. While I still grieve for him and miss him so much, if it wasn't for his sickness and my family stepping back and realizing what was truly important, I have a feeling I would be a much different person today. And not in a good way.

God's hand is in everything.
 
A few years ago, I had picked up dd from babysitter’s and was headed home on the interstate. (I was pregnant with 2nd dd at the time) It was about 4:15 and generally the interstate is very busy. There was a truck in front of me hauling a HUGE tree spade on a trailer. It seemed to be bouncing around on the trailer and I thought what if that tree spade breaks loose?

I slowed down to give a little more distance and no sooner did I do that, then it broke loose and started bouncing down the highway towards me. I changed lanes and it changed lanes. I moved back and it moved back. Finally, it bounced one way and I was able to go the other. Again, still no traffic behind me. I floored my car trying to catch up with the truck. I never could catch it and got off at my exit. The three of us could have been killed and these guys would have never known it. All the what if’s that could have happened went through my mind. What if I hadn't slowed down? What if a tractor trailer had been on my tail? What if there’d been the usual amount of cars running at high rates of speed? What if even one car had been next to me? I don’t know what it was that day, but I know something/someone put that thought in my head. Call it what you like. I believe
 
Pooh, I've glad that you survived.

However, there have been many decent, kind, moral, God-loving people in the same kind of situation who DID have a tractor trailer behind them, or were boxed in by cars on both sides........... and died with their loved ones.
 
Read carefully and think about it...

If there was only GOOD in the world, good wouldn't seem so good. It would be the norm.

Good is only good compared to bad...
 
Originally posted by FOJMO


If there was only GOOD in the world, good wouldn't seem so good. It would be the norm.


OK. So are you saying that GOD allows innocents to die to alert the rest of us how good Life really is???
 
Originally posted by Silky
However, there have been many decent, kind, moral, God-loving people in the same kind of situation who DID have a tractor trailer behind them, or were boxed in by cars on both sides........... and died with their loved ones.
You know, Bill, as someone who lost their mom at a young age, I can totally see where you are coming from. I admit I even felt the same way you did about the existance of God and all that. But something that I came to realize as I grew up, what makes life neat is that we all have different beliefs. And if we go about sharing them, and not forcing them on others or being closed minded about them, life can be so enriching and full of such cool things to learn about. Imagine how boring it would be if we all felt the same...

I personally believe in fate. I believe that we are guided to do certain things. We may or may not listen to the calling, but I believe it is there. I also believe that things happen for reasons that we will never fully understand (ie. the death of my mom), however that doesn't mean that the force behind them is necessarily mean, cruel or evil. As sad as the death of my mom has been for me, some good has come of it. As has been said, there is good and there is bad. They balance out each other. Life would be rather boring if it were all the same.

That's just my opinion though and I admit I truly have enjoyed reading what others have felt :)
 
In answer to 6 Time Momma's post ~ I do believe that was the Holy Spirit working through your DH.

May I also add, isn't this a great country that we CAN all have our beliefs & we are able to SPEAK about them openly!!??? ;)
 
Helenabear, sorry to read of your Mom's passing. I certainly can understand your perspective; my DW lost both of her parents when she was quite young but remains a devout Catholic nevertheless. Faith can provide great healing and succor. Even if God does not exist, people can indeed derive considerable comfort from the perception of his presence; the reality of his existence really becomes a secondary consideration.......
 
I am glad your Dh was there to help the woman. Personally, I do not believe in coincidences.
 
certain things. We may or may not listen to the calling, but I believe it is there. I also believe that things happen for reasons that we will never fully understand (ie. the death of my mom), however that doesn't mean that the force behind them is necessarily mean, cruel or evil. As sad as the death of my mom has been for me, some good has come of it.

Well said, I truly believe that when someone dies or something bad happens it has a direct affect on someone else. Not just the family and friends, and we may not understand it, but somewhere it has affected a life in a way that changes events and makes life better in some way for others,
 

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