Enchanted

[Robo]

Why can't his name be printed here? I'm just curious!

Did you try it?

Do you think its because the DIS does not own the rights to his character?





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[AUDramaQueen]

Why can't his name be printed here? I'm just curious!

Um how do I put this delicately? His name is synonymous with a slang term used to describe part of the male anatomy. Or maybe Robo's right and the Dis just doesnt own the rights

 

[Robo]

Um how do I put this delicately? His name is synonymous with a slang term used to describe part of the male anatomy.

Nope.

That's not the problematic name.

 

[AUDramaQueen]

Nope.

That's not the problematic name.

Tee hee. OMG you are so right! Ok I'm not gonna explain that one. You're on your own!

 

[bradk]

well at least he's not Peter O'Toole (props to Groucho Marx)

 

[Robo]

It's all innuendo...

"Love flies out the door when money comes innuendo."

 

[Mme. Leota]

What about all the Pirates stuff? They have used the images of Johnny et al. . . on EVERYTHING, and Capt. Jack is out all the time and he and Barbosa are in the ride. Of course, that franchise is WILDLY popular, so maybe Disney was just willing to pay Johnny, Jeffery, Orlando, and Kiera whatever it took because it was worth it?

 

[AUDramaQueen]

What about all the Pirates stuff? They have used the images of Johnny et al. . . on EVERYTHING, and Capt. Jack is out all the time and he and Barbosa are in the ride. Of course, that franchise is WILDLY popular, so maybe Disney was just willing to pay Johnny, Jeffery, Orlando, and Kiera whatever it took because it was worth it?

Yep, it's all about the contract. Oh and don't forget the actors get royalties too for that stuff.

But if you remember before the first one came out, everyone warned those guys that pirate movies always bomb at the box office.

 

[GoofyKidd]

What a shame! Enchanted is now my favorite movie and our kids will be disappointed that they won't see her next month when we're there.

 

[Renee845]

If the rights to use her likeness were an issue, then I would assume Prince Caspian wouldn't be out and about. Clearly the character in the parks is based off of what Ben Barnes looks like, so I don't get why Amy Adams' Giselle wouldn't be allowed but Ben Barnes' Prince Caspian is. Of course, Caspian isn't a Disney-created character though, so maybe that would be the difference. Just seems unlikely to me that they wouldn't be allowed to portray the character as they see fit due to licensing issues. Doesn't make sense to me.

Either way, it's just a shame she's nowhere to be found in the parks. She's a fun character.

What about Jonny Depp? Isn't it the same kind of thing? It seems to be if they can do a Jonny Depp look-alike they can find Amy Adams right?? Oh well. We loved the movie too, it would be great to see her out there.

 

[Renee845]

What about all the Pirates stuff? They have used the images of Johnny et al. . . on EVERYTHING, and Capt. Jack is out all the time and he and Barbosa are in the ride. Of course, that franchise is WILDLY popular, so maybe Disney was just willing to pay Johnny, Jeffery, Orlando, and Kiera whatever it took because it was worth it?

Great minds think alike here, sorry, I missed this post!

 

[Stinkerbell317]

The character Giselle is owned by Disney.

Amy Adams was cast to play the character in the film.

Someone else can be cast to play the part at the parks.

OK, so what's the problem then?! As long as they aren't marketing dolls, pins, etc with Amy Adams on them, what's to stop them from having the character at the parks? I'm so confused at Disney's lack of initiative to cash in on such a lucrative opportunity to make money off of us Enchanted fans.

Here's an idea! Sell some Giselle merch instead of raising stoller rentals to $30/day!!! At least I'd be happier to pay for something cute with Giselle on it than for a dumb, old stoller.

 

[Lavender_Blue]

I hate saying that I read this on Wikipedia, but I did and it did have sources:

Disney just did not want to pay life-long rights to Adams' image. They use her animated likeness on dolls and such.

According to one of the sources on Wikipedia, a page out of the New York Times, Disney tried to get away with not paying Adams any royalties by saying that there was enough difference in her appearance and the animated character that they wouldn't need to pay her royalties for her image. The section ends with "Negotiations have begun with Adams' lawyers and Disney Representatives."

Maybe for PotC they got a good deal on paying royalties to those actors? I do notice there isn't a lot of merchandise with the faces of the characters on it. You mostly see the characters in the ride. Maybe they worked out some sort of special contract?

 

[DSNY4ever]

I would LOVE to get a picture with Giselle and Prince Edward, my husband and I think they are just hysterical. I hope Disney will work this out so that the fans can see them in the parks.

 

[Brian_WDW74]

According to one of the sources on Wikipedia, a page out of the New York Times, Disney tried to get away with not paying Adams any royalties by saying that there was enough difference in her appearance and the animated character that they wouldn't need to pay her royalties for her image. The section ends with "Negotiations have begun with Adams' lawyers and Disney Representatives."

Here's the problem I have with that Wikipedia article. The "source" that it cites is:

"Disney Princess vs Disney Controversy", page 46. The New York Times, 2008

No link to the article is given, and no date is listed other than "2008." I searched the NY Times site for articles as far back as a year ago, and I searched the internet as a whole for this article, and I couldn't find it. Nowhere. I'm not saying that it never existed, but I find it odd that it's not referenced anywhere, not even on the Disney fan sites that archive virtually every news article ever released about Disney.

As far as I can tell, the rights issue is this: Disney cannot use Amy Adams' likeness on any of its advertising or merchandise without paying her. This includes items such as the Giselle doll, which was directly based on her. And it may, or may not, extend to the animated character as well, although I seriously doubt it does. However, Disney does not have to pay her to have a Giselle face character in the parks.

As for why Giselle isn't currently appearing...I have my suspicions. But since they're merely suppositions on my part, I won't post them here.

 

[buckeyebill1995]

I can see where Disney tried to save a few bucks on royalties and got burned and now can't have Giselle in the parks. Honestly -- don't be so cheap, Disney! If you can pay for Johnny Depp you can pay Amy Adams! But what about the costumes at least? My DD is really hoping to be Giselle for Halloween. The only place I've found them is a distributor in the UK and they don't ship to the US. Luckily for me there's the DISboutique!

We love Enchanted and Giselle needs to have her place as a Princess!

 

[Robo]

What about Jonny Depp? Isn't it the same kind of thing? It seems to be if they can do a Jonny Depp look-alike they can find Amy Adams right??

And, FIND a Giselle actress, they did...


http://www.laughingplace.com/Lotion-View-506.asp


http://www.flickr.com/photos/wallyspam/2063382311/

BTW, Giselle is not a princess.
She evens says that in the film when she is asked.

 

[Stinkerbell317]

But what about the costumes at least? My DD is really hoping to be Giselle for Halloween. The only place I've found them is a distributor in the UK and they don't ship to the US. Luckily for me there's the DISboutique! :

FYI! I was just at my local Disney Store and got a sneak peek at the Halloween costumes. They will be selling Giselle's wedding dress ensemble as a Halloween costume this year.

 

[doconeill]

I would think that if Disney wanted the full rights, they would have gotten it. If Amy Adams wasn't willing to give it to them, then they would have found another actress. But its pure speculation on my part.

One thing that comes to mind, and again pure speculation, but wouldn't it be more difficult to pull off a live character lookalike in meet-and-greets than it is for an animated character? After all, with an animated character it is harder to say "She didn't look like her at all...", but with a live character, its a bit different. Sure, there is Mary Poppins (by the way, not a Princess either), but then again, that movie was 44 years ago...a bit less entrenched in the youngsters' minds than Giselle is at the moment.

Lastly, Disney seems to take its own sweet time on incorporating popular characters, concepts, etc. in its parks. How long was it after HSM before they did anything? Or Monsters Inc.? I'd have plans in place for _something_ related to each movie being released in case it explodes in popularity, instead of waiting for the ship to sail first and then try and catch it.

Disney had a moderately popular live character princess in Princess Diaries, but as far as I know they didn't do ANYTHING with it...

 

[bradk]

here's the difference with that.. and I try to point this out with the POTC movies until i'm blue in the face and nobody ever responds to me...

Julie Andrews is an actress. She *portrayed* Mary Poppins. Like Dan Hedaya playing Richard Nixon in Dick. Johnny Depp *portrayed* Jack Sparrow.

When you see Jack Sparrow in the parks, he is not trying to be Johnny Depp. He is the man Johnny Depp was trying to be.