EBPC December 9, 2012!!! Who's in????

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What are you guys with little ones planning?

We had the late seating on our 11 night Mediterranean cruise when my niece and nephew were 3 and 7. My sister was worried about it because they were normally in bed at 7 and 7:30. They were fine with the late seating, went to the kid's club halfway through dinner and we picked them up when we were getting ready for bed. We are an early rising group, normally up on deck running by 7am. The kids just slept in later than normal (8am oppose to 6am) Someone stayed back with them until they woke up. They had more energy than us during the day and didn't have any issue doing this for 11 nights. We will be doing late seating again.
 
We have early dining mainly because we always do. On the Hawaii cruise, we were always back on ship in time for early dining. Since this cruise had so few kids, they actually had quite a few tables empty in both early and late dining. We found out that our servers had an empty table at late dining so we aksed if we could have late dining for breakfast n the last day and Geffry the head server said no problem. If we had the kids with us and attended the character breakfast, we would have asked if we could have the later time as well. Due to the time of year, this cruise may have empty tabes as well.
 
I heard back from Cartagena tour guide number 2. Here is what he said

"I need to clarify that I arrange the tours: developing a tour timing to match your interests, arranging for the guide and driver, and getting the transportation into the port so that it is available right at the foot of the gangway alongside the ship. I am not your guide; but I’ll make sure you get the best available guides. I will be there to meet you at the gangway to get you started on a great day in Cartagena.

If you prefer the personal attention of a small group in either a sedan or a van we can tailor your experience exactly to your interests and capacities. If you are looking for the best price and don’t mind going out with a larger group, I can provide standard bus tours in mini-buses but with flexibility of the monuments included. Whether or not they will operate on any given ship’s visit will depend on whether there are enough people to share the larger vehicle. For brief descriptions of the standard tours, see “Sample tours” (below).

One clarification: I have been involved in the sale of emeralds and fine jewelry in Cartagena for 35 years. My store, Mister Emerald, is located upstairs at the Pierino Gallo Center. That said, your tour of Cartagena will be organized according to your wishes. Whether you do, or do not, wish to look at emeralds or visit Pierino Gallo Plaza while you are in Cartagena is entirely up to you.

Tour information:

Time base:
An extensive historical tour of Cartagena including some shopping can be accomplished in 4 hours. If you are planning to have lunch, however, you should figure on 5 hours or a bit more. Normal pricing is made on the basis of a 4-hour tour. I have done tours that ran a full 8 hours, with a morning tour, lunch, and then additional sites in the afternoon. My advice is that in the heat and humidity of Cartagena you need to be sure to take it easy and not overtax yourself physically.

Ship arrival time

Most vessels arrive in Cartagena in the morning and leave in the early afternoon. In the case of ships that arrive in the late morning or at noon we need to make some adjustments to try to minimize the impact of the “noonday sun”. Ships that stay until evening time permit the options of horse-drawn carriage rides, sunsets, as well as entertainment and dining options that are not advisable in the heat of the day.

Monuments/sites

You can choose to do “photo stops” at the sites and monuments, or you may pay the fees and enter for full tours of those you choose. I charge in advance for the sites that we include on our final tour timing, and pre-pay them so that we have no delays or payment problems to gain access. A “normal” tour, without rushing, might include one to three sites/monuments. The more fees paid, the higher the price of the tour.

Please take a look at the attached Excel sheet for descriptions of the most popular sites/monuments, the minimum time required in each, and notes on accessibility.



Shopping options:

It is instructive to summarize what shopping is like in Cartagena. In contrast to Eastern Caribbean ports, Cartagena does not have the same procession of European brands and foreign products (Fendi, Gucci, Rolex, Lladro, Diamonds Int'l..). Instead, everything you find in Cartagena is really from Colombia. This goes for the coffee, handcrafts, leather goods and cigars, chocolate, as well as the premier product: emeralds and emerald jewelry. If you want access to the best coffee, handcrafts, and emeralds at the shops that are backed by the cruise line, then it is worth going out to the Pierino Gallo Plaza about 10 minutes from the Old City in the new part of town. If your interest is in handcrafts and souvenirs, without following the ship-backed recommendations, they are available at the “Dungeons” (Las Bovedas), a group of 20+ handcraft stores in the Old City.


Transportation

Transportation will be either in a private car (max.4), a van (max.8), or a mini bus (max. 27). Other options are available for large groups.

We can also arrange for up to four persons to go out in a private car. Two or three will be more comfortable. This is the most exclusive and personal option.

6-8 is the best number for a van. Technically these vans hold 14, but I figure 8, or at most 9, is the most you want to have share a van and still be comfortable.

If your group is larger, you can move up to a mini- bus. From a price point of view it is best to have a group of 13 or more. You can choose to have 9 to 12 in a bus, but it means that the cost per person of the transportation/guide in the tour price will be slightly higher.


Guides

I use only the very best available guides. I’ve been involved with these guides for 35 years here in Cartagena, so I know who is who. There are some of these guides’ names that have been mentioned positively on Cruise Critic. If you ask for specific guides by name I will do what I can to have them handle your tour. Be aware that these guides sometimes have other commitments on the specific day of your visit, as they are also much sought-after to guide the normal ship shore excursions. While we try to meet requests for specific guides, we will always make sure that you get a good guide that you can understand, that is knowledgeable, and that you will be comfortable with.

Port

Part of what these private tours include is that the guide and transportation is waiting for you inside the port, right on the pier at shipside. You do not need to go out to the Terminal buildings nor walk out onto the street to find transportation or meet your guide.

Special needs/mobility issues:

I need to know if we need to accommodate a wheelchair or scooter, and/or what the other mobility issues might be for the different members of the group. Several of the sites require climbing stairs to gain access to the second-floor exhibits, so we need to be sure that everyone can handle the monument/site choices we choose. Cartagena is unfortunately not very “wheel chair friendly”. It seems like all the monuments have at least two or three stairs and most do not have ramps or other special access. That said, we can often work around things by arranging for a little special help, or by having the wheel chair guest do a photo stop of the monument while the rest go ahead and do a full tour. We adjust the amounts charged for monument fees accordingly.

Pricing:

Pricing consists of a fixed amount that covers the vehicle, guide, port entry fees, etc. PLUS the entry fees to the monuments/sites we choose to include in the tour.

Tentatively this season (October 2011 to May 2012) the cost of a 4-hour tour in a private car with guide and driver waiting for you alongside the ship might range from US$ 220.00 to $285.00 for a couple, depending on how many monuments are included.
A van might cost from US$33 to $98 per person for the same time frame depending upon how many monuments are included and how many people share the van. For either a car or a van, please fill out the “questionnaire” and I will put together a personalized tour timing to fit your interests and capacities.

Sample tours:

CC-A -- A full tour of the Church of San Pedro Claver and the PreColumbian Gold Museum, photo stops at Palace of the Inquisition and San Felipe Fortress, walking in the Old City, shopping. (Minimal number of fee-paid monuments, least expensive)

CC-B -- Including full tours of La Popa Monastery, Church of San Pedro Claver and PreColumbian Gold Museum or more walking in the Old City, photo stops at San Felipe Fortress, and the Palace of the Inquisition, shopping. (Well-balanced tour, both walking, photo stops and fee-paid monuments, moderate price.)

CC-C -- Tour including full tours of San Felipe Fortress, San Pedro Claver Church, Palace of the Inquisition, walking in Old City, and shopping. (Significant number of fee-paid monuments/sites, history-intensive, higher-priced due to the number of fee-paid sites particularly the Fortress of San Felipe. Requires good walking ability, as you need to negotiate 180 yards of fairly steep ramps to reach the top of the Fortress.)

The above tours are just ideas. You can have more or less walking, different monuments, more or less shopping, etc."


Additionally A "photo" tour of the highlights might be something along the lines of "CC-A", with a stop up at La Popa Monastery and a short walk through the Old City (the walled city.) This, assumes you are up to managing a total of 13 steps in three separate groups up at La Popa, and about 6-7 blocks, with stops, of flat walking in the Old City.


Alternatively, we can do pretty much a panoramic tour. If you can't manage the walking in the Old City you may not be able to see the heart of the Old City around Plaza Bolivar, as the authorities close it to vehicles on ship days.


Let me know what you think of this information, and give me a bit better idea of what you think you are "up to" as regards walking, etc. One note: I will be leaving Friday or Saturday on a one-month sailing trip. I will have occasional access to email, but it may be a couple of weeks between opportunities. However, your ship will be coming to Cartagena on December 18 and it is the only ship in town that day, so we definitely can put together a tour for you that fits your preferences.


My current estimates for something along the lines of "CC-B" in December (with only one fee-paid stop at La Popa Monastery) would run on the order of $45 per person if there are 8 people in a van, $56 per person if there are 6 in the van; and about $80 per person if there are only 4 in the van. (Includes a/c van, drive, separate bilingual guide, and monument fees.) These are estimates, as I don't have either the price rises for guides and transportation, nor a very clear idea of the Dollar/Peso exchange rate. I believe that these estimates are if anything on the high side, however.


I am looking for 5 - 6 people who don't mind going slow for the old lady to join me in sharing the services of one of these guides. Please pm if interested with Cartegena in the subject line.
 
:cool1::cool1: 199 Days and Counting :cool1::cool1:

We made to the less than 200 days til we sail mark!!!! How exciting!!!
 

Cannot WAIT. We got home LAst thursday night, and I'm already sick of the daily grind! And what EVER posessed me to say I'd host a memorial day cookout? I must have been CRAZY.
 
I am also so looking forward to this cruise! I am having such withdrawls after the Hawaii cruise. I miss being on the ship. While this cruise won't be the same as the Hawaii cruise since I will have the kids (no dancing in Wavebands until after 2am!!) it will be so much fun and so relaxing sitting in a lounge chair waving a gazillion times at my kids each time they go up top to go down the mickey slide. I will have a huge smile each time! :thumbsup2
 
How was the turtle grass and beach when you went in November? I heard a story back on the ship from a family who were there that the grass is so thick, they have to clear paths in the water. They said the food and drink are wonderful but the ocean was horrible and full of trash and the snorkeling was bad.
We did the ruins in April and I have gone SCUBA diving serveral times in Costa Maya so I am looking for something differant but we love the water and would hate it if we couldn't enjoy it. I would love to hear your take on it. I can't always trust just one person.

We did not go snorkeling, as at that time my little guy was 3 and had no interest. I did take him out on a glass bottom kayak to check some stuff out though and we enjoyed that. There was quite a bit of turtle grass, but it did not bother us too much for our kayaking and floating around right off the beach in some floaty chairs they have available. The people we saw go snorkeling brought back several starfish for us non snorkelers to see, but I honestly didn't question them. We did not see trash except for when we wondered down the beach pretty far and away from the private beach. The private beach was clean and so much fun. The people that run it were great! It is a perfect low key, laid back day of fun on the beach for us:cool1:
 
GOOD Morning Happy Cruisers!

Well, at least it's not raining this morning and I can have my windows open. Did something totally stupid yesterday:blush: - I always clean my grill grates in my oven when I run the self cleaning feature - it works great - usually. But THIS time, they had a pretty good coat of winter sludge on them, so they smoked WAY more than normal. OMG it will take me weeks to get this smell out of my house:headache: Can I just say I WISH I WAS BACK ON THE BOAT?!
 
I'm just excited the crowds will be light. One of the few things I like about Disney is when it's overly busy - I love going at the low points of the year.

Also, from what I'm hearing on the main board a lot of the Wonder staff is new (as more experienced went to Fantasy/Dream). By December everyone should be used to their roles and ready for us!
 
I'm just excited the crowds will be light. One of the few things I like about Disney is when it's overly busy - I love going at the low points of the year.

Also, from what I'm hearing on the main board a lot of the Wonder staff is new (as more experienced went to Fantasy/Dream). By December everyone should be used to their roles and ready for us!

Let's hope...and if you haven't seen on another thread or facebook, a CM from the Wonder is "accused" of stealing and/or finding and not returning a passenger's iphone...just remember keep your possessions with you at all times!:goodvibes
 
Also, from what I'm hearing on the main board a lot of the Wonder staff is new (as more experienced went to Fantasy/Dream). By December everyone should be used to their roles and ready for us!

We had great staff on our cruise last week. :goodvibes Our server told us he had been offered the Fantasy for his next contract but he wanted to come back to the Wonder. We hope to see our serving team in December :)
 
Thanks for the welcome! We are definitely looking forward to this cruise but it's hard to think/concentrate on this until our July Alaska cruise is over with.

We had great staff on our cruise last week. :goodvibes Our server told us he had been offered the Fantasy for his next contract but he wanted to come back to the Wonder. We hope to see our serving team in December :)
If you don't mind, who are your servers? We've been spoiled on the Magic with the same servers that we love. Last year we cruised the Wonder and our servers weren't that great. It'll be my sister's first time cruising and I would love for her to experience the "Disney extra attention" on our Alaska cruise! It's taken us years for her to come along!
 
If you don't mind, who are your servers? We've been spoiled on the Magic with the same servers that we love. Last year we cruised the Wonder and our servers weren't that great. It'll be my sister's first time cruising and I would love for her to experience the "Disney extra attention" on our Alaska cruise! It's taken us years for her to come along!

Chakapong or Dee. Anyone with headserver Harry.
 
GOOD Morning Happy Cruisers!

Well, at least it's not raining this morning and I can have my windows open. Did something totally stupid yesterday:blush: - I always clean my grill grates in my oven when I run the self cleaning feature - it works great - usually. But THIS time, they had a pretty good coat of winter sludge on them, so they smoked WAY more than normal. OMG it will take me weeks to get this smell out of my house:headache: Can I just say I WISH I WAS BACK ON THE BOAT?!

My goodness, it sounds like you do some of the things I do myself. I know what you mean about being back on the boat. I was on the ship last fall during school break with the grandkids and one of my daughters and had withdrawal for several weeks. Can't wait for this cruise and the WC Cruise on the Fantasy in Sept.
 
If you don't mind, who are your servers? We've been spoiled on the Magic with the same servers that we love. Last year we cruised the Wonder and our servers weren't that great. It'll be my sister's first time cruising and I would love for her to experience the "Disney extra attention" on our Alaska cruise! It's taken us years for her to come along!


Lito was the head server and Julia was the assistant server. Julia said she would be on board for sure. Lito was offered the Fantasy for his next contract but doesn't want to take it so he thought he would be there :goodvibes
 
GOOD Morning, Happy Cruisers!

Wow! Must not be too many Brits on this cruise - i'm not used to finding 'no new activity' when I get up in the morning!

C'mon people! POST! I mean really, what's more important than DIS ? :lmao:

Out to the gym then the rest of the day cleaning and preparing for our "luau" on Monday. What are y'all doing this weekend?
 
GOOD Morning, Happy Cruisers!

Wow! Must not be too many Brits on this cruise - i'm not used to finding 'no new activity' when I get up in the morning!

C'mon people! POST! I mean really, what's more important than DIS ? :lmao:

Out to the gym then the rest of the day cleaning and preparing for our "luau" on Monday. What are y'all doing this weekend?
I will be spending the weekend with the inlaws, at a surprise birthday party...for me! My sister-in-law had to tell me, because I had some other plans and really didn't want to spend the weekend away from home! Oh well, I'll be surprised, I guess!

I just spent the morning on the boardwalk here in town taking pictures at a press conference. It was chilly, damp and foggy, but at least I wasn't in the office!

Once we finish our Canada cruise (two weeks from Sunday::yes::) I can really start thinking about this one. The Canada cruise has me all confused. I'm so used to having to fly somewhere and make all kinds of hotel and travel arrangements that this just doesn't feel right! I'll walk out of my door, and in just under two hours I should be sitting somewhere on Magic enjoying lunch. I don't have to worry about luggage allowances or delayed flights or anything else!

Beth
 
I will be spending the weekend with the inlaws, at a surprise birthday party...for me! My sister-in-law had to tell me, because I had some other plans and really didn't want to spend the weekend away from home! Oh well, I'll be surprised, I guess!

I just spent the morning on the boardwalk here in town taking pictures at a press conference. It was chilly, damp and foggy, but at least I wasn't in the office!

Once we finish our Canada cruise (two weeks from Sunday::yes::) I can really start thinking about this one. The Canada cruise has me all confused. I'm so used to having to fly somewhere and make all kinds of hotel and travel arrangements that this just doesn't feel right! I'll walk out of my door, and in just under two hours I should be sitting somewhere on Magic enjoying lunch. I don't have to worry about luggage allowances or delayed flights or anything else!
Beth

Happy Birthday to YOU!:hourglass (You're not getting older - you're getting BETTER!)

Sounds like a great way to start a cruise!
 
:beach: HAPPY MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND :beach:

:cake: HAPPY BIRTHDAY Beth - I am envious of your upcoming cruise. We are about 3 hours away and I so wish I could cruise on the Magic, but the funds just don't allow for it :sad::sad:

:cake: My youngest DD's birthday is on Monday. She will be turning 14 - oh my, where did the years go. We are spending the day at Knoebel's Grove - which is an old fashioned amusement park - no admission fees, pay as you go for the rides. We will picnicing with family for the day!

I hope everyone has a great holiday weekend!
 
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