E-Cigarette Explosion Injures Girl at Orlando Theme Park

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Minor correction - WDW has changed. Global Society has not. This is not a Global Society choice.... it's a WDW business choice. Corporate choice, right or wrong, will determine guest behavior at WDW.

Well I guess around me in my metro area acceptance of public smoking has gone way way way down. There are no longer places where you can smoke in restaurants, my college campus stopped selling cigarettes on campus my senior year (college was about 30-45 west from where I grew up and where I currently live), many cities are enacting laws where those under 21 cannot purchase tabacco products, the only casino in the metro (on the KS side that is as the other casinos are in the MO side) has a non-smoking section with a separate hvac system, etc. Granted MO has the lowest cigarette tax in the nation while KS has the 31st but they try time and time again to raise the tax in MO but like most of us higher taxes in general are not welcomed but they still have the other things I listed above. I do understand though that not all places aren't going this route. I would say though at least here in the U.S. we are well away from the smoking era of the past where smoking commercials were shown on tv, ads everywhere and the norm was smoking.

I do agree that yes people's behavior is related to corporate policies.

ETA: Different Disney Parks are going to cater to the area so I'd expect Disneyland Paris to have slightly different norms, Shanghai to be different, Toyko to be different and even Disneyland in CA to be different.

 

[oceanmarina]

Thank you!

 

[Kaytie]

Exploding gas or balloon animal i

Not gas. Battery.

Any vaper should be versed in battery safety and shouldn't be carrying their device in the pocket without it being completely turned off.

That should be "any rechargeable battery-device user". There are millions, if not tens of millions, more cell phone users than capers. Many more cell phones have caught fire or exploded than e-cigs.

 

[StanH]

Meh....Just proves the point - smoking of any type is hazardous to your health.

And - vaping is not a way to quit tobacco..It is a substitution. Tobacco is not the villain, it is the nicotine in the tobacco. Vaping is just a different way of introducing the drug into your body.

 

[jsrowdon]

And - vaping is not a way to quit tobacco..It is a substitution. Tobacco is not the villain, it is the nicotine in the tobacco. Vaping is just a different way of introducing the drug into your body.

While this may be the case for some people there are lots of people that have used vaping as a way to quit. They sell vapor with different nicotine level so that people can gradually reduce it down to where there is no nicotine at all in the vapor if they choose to do so. In that case it is absolutely a way to quit.

Now there are plenty of people that also use it as a replacement but to there are also plenty that are using it as a way to quit.

 

[Dean Marino]

I believe their treated just like cigarettes and can only be used in the smoking areas. Of course you'll catch occasional people vaping around the park here and there

OCCASIONAL? . How to say this - with the virtual elimination of DSA's.... one finds a LOT of folks grabbing an ECIG wherever they wish . A basic reaction to "no authorized areas". I pity the CMs that have to spend their day policing this issue.....

Now - let's consider an ECIG ban.... this gets enforced how? WDW can't even keep flash photos off rides . It MIGHT work if someone screams "safety".... but it would entail frisking visitors .

Quick note - I don't use an ECIG. When WDW bans Smoking? They ban me - and the (apx) $6K I bring for each trip.... twice per year, eight days a trip, 12 years running. They may do as they please. They will want the money, or they will NOT want the money. Their choice.

Aside? That "outside the park" smoking area is an abomination - it's RIGHT in a High Traffic Area, and creates an "in the park, out of the park, in the park, out of the park" Security problem. Yes, at 64, I smoke.... but I do NOT want to create problems for the general population - I'll be dead soon enough . I'm old.... let me have a few vacations.

So - a modest proposal..... WDW, put DSA's into the ENTRANCE and EXIT areas of the mostly unused BYPASS. No public traffic during daylight hours, minimal cost, and no one gets upset. The areas, on a daily basis, are primarily unused. Night time crush? Shut 'em down..... no problem.

All personal opinion - I'm not necessarily right, no one else is necessarily wrong.

 

[Kelly Sullivan]

my DH smoked for over 20 years. vile wretched smell ugh! I was sooooooooooo happy when he started using the e-cig! He did have a little one that barely made any cloud at all and was asked to use it only in the smoking area while at MK in 2014. I can understand the clouds being annoying to people, not as bad smelling as cigarette smoke but if you are sensitive to the vapor it can dry out your throat and make you gag/cough so out of consideration for others it's best to stay in the designated areas if you choose to use these devices. Unfortunately just like when he was smoking DH doesn't understand the problem although it's funny now because he gags around cigarette smoke. LOL

 

[momandmousefan]

As much as I hate smoking I think the earlier comment is referring to the vape culture. The culture where the it's seen as of to bring it on the rides. That you need to puff everytime you're outside. Being in college and seeing the latter all the time is appalling.

Once again I'd like to apologize for my generation

Eh, don't feel too bad. You should have seen our generation and the one before. Smoking in restaurants,in cars, on airplanes.... Your generation is actually the least addicted statistically.

 

[PuppyJonathan]

Eh, don't feel too bad. You should have seen our generation and the one before. Smoking in restaurants,in cars, on airplanes.... Your generation is actually the least addicted statistically.

You're right, it's just people like the one vape store owner who was livid that the line to donate blood after the pulse shooting was blocking his store that stick out like a sore thumb.

 

[wilkeliza]

You're right, it's just people like the one vape store owner who was livid that the line to donate blood after the pulse shooting was blocking his store that stick out like a sore thumb.

That's just a single person not the entire culture. I know a lot of people who vape who would have called him out for being a jerk.

 

[circus4u]

Eh, don't feel too bad. You should have seen our generation and the one before. Smoking in restaurants,in cars, on airplanes.... Your generation is actually the least addicted statistically.

Remember when they used to give you a small pack of Lucky Strikes on your dinner tray while on the flight (and I was only 8 and got a pack on my tray too)? That was in the time before the pull down trays and they placed your tray on a pillow! Yep, nothing like the good old days!

 

[LeeAndRobin]

Quick note - I don't use an ECIG. When WDW bans Smoking? They ban me - and the (apx) $6K I bring for each trip.... twice per year, eight days a trip, 12 years running. They may do as they please. They will want the money, or they will NOT want the money. Their choice.

There are people standing in line to take your place and give their money to Disney. You (and the dwindling pool of smokers who attend Disney) are way less important to their bottom line than you seem to think. This is true with every group who says "If Disney does X I will NEVER go again and they will loose my money!". Most of the people who say that are probably just "blowing smoke" and will go again no matter what Disney does. Disney won't even notice the small percentage that quits coming.

 

[mom2rtk]

There are people standing in line to take your place and give their money to Disney. You (and the dwindling pool of smokers who attend Disney) are way less important to their bottom line than you seem to think. This is true with every group who says "If Disney does X I will NEVER go again and they will loose my money!". Most of the people who say that are probably just "blowing smoke" and will go again no matter what Disney does. Disney won't even notice the small percentage that quits coming.

Where is this line you speak of? Because the parks only hit capacity a handful of days each year. Every other day of the year, I beg to differ on whether there's a line of people waiting for a spot to open up for them. Attendance has actually dipped a bit this year.

 

[rteetz]

Where is this line you speak of? Because the parks only hit capacity a handful of days each year. Every other day of the year, I beg to differ on whether there's a line of people waiting for a spot to open up for them. Attendance has actually dipped a bit this year.

While yes attendance has dipped it's not down astronomically. There are still large crowds most days.

 

[mom2rtk]

While yes attendance has dipped it's not down astronomically. There are still large crowds most days.

Sure. I'm just saying that there's not a line of people waiting for someone to cancel so they can take their place. If the park isn't at capacity, anyone can go.

 

[LeeAndRobin]

Sure. I'm just saying that there's not a line of people waiting for someone to cancel so they can take their place. If the park isn't at capacity, anyone can go.

My point was that Disney is not going to notice a few smokers getting in a huff and refusing to go to WDW again. They will literally never notice the "drop" in attendance. I find it humorous that any one person (or small group) thinks they are that important.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

My point was that Disney is not going to notice a few smokers getting in a huff and refusing to go to WDW again. They will literally never notice the "drop" in attendance. I find it humorous that any one person (or small group) thinks they are that important.

I can see your point there. Likely if smoking of all devices was banned in WDW you would properbably see most people rejoice in that. USO may be geared towards the older crowd but if you took away the smoking you still probably would only find a small group that would stop going but there is probably a larger crowd that rejoices in that.

 

[StanH]

While this may be the case for some people there are lots of people that have used vaping as a way to quit. They sell vapor with different nicotine level so that people can gradually reduce it down to where there is no nicotine at all in the vapor if they choose to do so. In that case it is absolutely a way to quit.

Now there are plenty of people that also use it as a replacement but to there are also plenty that are using it as a way to quit.

Nah...I helped co-found a web site to help people quit tobacco. In my 10 years of experience overseeing that website, it is completely obvious that cold turkey annihilates these so called reduction aids. In my opinion, those "aids" just aid the "quitter" in prolonging their love affair with the nicotine.

Quitting nicotine is no joke. It is HARD. But taking the plunge and cutting all ties leads to a much higher success rate.

 

[Dean Marino]

There are people standing in line to take your place and give their money to Disney. You (and the dwindling pool of smokers who attend Disney) are way less important to their bottom line than you seem to think. This is true with every group who says "If Disney does X I will NEVER go again and they will loose my money!". Most of the people who say that are probably just "blowing smoke" and will go again no matter what Disney does. Disney won't even notice the small percentage that quits coming.

Thank you for your incredible sympathy towards others....
Sorry - Today? I will not be slitting my wrists.

Meanwhile? I, TOO, intend to have the life that I find appropriate - without causing harm to others (within reason..... it appears MANY people drive, and choke others by doing so .)

Now, in replying to this vitriol? I've violated my own "board" principal: never respond to troll/bait posts. I will not respond to any more of these, as they simply breed hate towards others, and create problems for our Admins.

 

[circus4u]

Quitting nicotine is no joke. It is HARD. But taking the plunge and cutting all ties leads to a much higher success rate.

I couldn't agree more. Take it from one who has smoked for 45 years, but a caveat here. "Cold Turkey" may not be the way to go if one has other physical problems, such as heart problems. I finally bit the bullet and decided to quit, with guidance and monitoring by my cardiologist. Quitting smoking is definitely stressful, heart problems and other things can compound the process. I smoked my last cigarette five days ago and it has been rough, wouldn't have lasted five days without the patches; they definitely reduce the stress level. Plus, their are other things controlled by medication that have to be monitored also as you withdraw from nicotine. My point is, cold turkey may be the way to go, but some people need to consult with their doctor first.