DVCNews September 2024 sales information

[VGCgroupie]

I also expected higher demand due to lack of restrictions since most say restrictions are why they wont buy RIV and VDH. Im going to say the fact that many people have less disposable income currently than they did in 2023 when VDH released, pair that with a volatile election season and uncertainty, plus it being right before the holiday spending season it just wasn't a prime time to release sales.

 

[disneylandtour]

This is absolutely fair enough. I guess I had higher personal expectations given all the hype, lack of restrictions, $225/pt entry, as well as, hearing the guides say they’ve been so slammed (mine said that), etc. But like you said, there’s plenty of reason the numbers look the way they do. And I agree, the full picture is months away.

My guide managed to cold call me multiple times hoping to drum up business during the first 10 days add-ons were available. So I'm not sure "slammed" is how I'd describe this. Slammed makes it sound so popular that guides can't keep up with everything. But the number of cold calls I received suggests that they are actively looking for buyers, which is something different.

 

[disneylandtour]

I'm still in the group that believes what DVD has actually done is to undercut early enthusiasm for the Tower, turn a bunch of potential 150 point sales into 100 or 50 or 0 point sales, and push long-timers again toward resale. There was a 100 point resale CCV contract for sale yesterday at $115pp. I can confirm it sold full price--not to me (sadly). But $115pp at 100 points is almost exactly half the Poly price--for a similar MK resort with a LONGER time to expiration. Anyway, there's a ton of points in the Poly expansion. I'd say that all signs point toward much better incentives in the not too distant future--perhaps just before the holidays (as people are FAR more likely to make a big purchase before the holidays than in the months following) or once all those 60- and 90-day closings finally close. I think that one of those two paths is generally what we're on.

 

[ehh]

Totals I am seeing for October deeds
565 deeds with 73,617 points. That's an average of 130.30 points per deed.

7 Favorite week deeds.

• 1 1BR SV
• 6 Studio TPV
• 18 Studio SV
• 39 Studio SV
• 42 Studio SV
• 50 1BR TPV
• 50 Studio SV

Thanks for your constant updates for the sales, it's been great to follow!

• 18 Studio SV

First reaction to this one was "ooo, is this for May The Fourth?" thinking it was a nice little pick-up (can be hard to book, is a fun and uniquely Disney 'holiday', and I think is a solid candidate for future upwards points chart adjustments), but then I checked the FW calendar and it only usually covers May The Fourth, but not always. And now I'm remembering how much I hate the industry standard way these are structured.

I would love for DVC to evolve the system for 'favorite date' contracts, building off what they did for the Guaranteed Event runDisney offerings. As things are today, holidays can't be counted to consistently land on a fixed week, not everyone wants a whole week (especially at DL), not everyone wants Sun-Sun, etc.

My guide managed to cold call me multiple times hoping to drum up business during the first 10 days add-ons were available. So I'm not sure "slammed" is how I'd describe this. Slammed makes it sound so popular that guides can't keep up with everything. But the number of cold calls I received suggests that they are actively looking for buyers, which is something different.

I've gotten 5 cold calls from 2 different guides since sales started. This is definitely an unusual experience for me.

(of note: I do not have an assigned guide at this time and have not reached out to DVC at all about PVB)

 

[Sandisw]

Is the first 3 months a good judgement?

I used data from @ehh VDH sales thread and then also used data from @wdrl DVCNews sales articles from 2023.

• May 147,047
• June 161,817
• July 94,176
• August 51,624
• September 51,624
• October 33,017
• November 31,793
• December 16,805

PVB 2015 (first year) - Used @wdrl DVCNews articles from 2023.

• January 13,048
• Feb 61,050
• March 75,649
• April 44,582
• May 59.752
• June 107,067
• July 98,795
• August 78,975
• Sept 82,909
• October 80,712
• November 79,601
• December 76,445

@wdrl used to post he would like to be a fly on the wall of DVD internal meetings. Only Disney knows what they expected sales to be.

I meant the first three months only for initial sales comparison. Not just looking at month one to compare against those other two.

 

[AstroBlasters]

I'm still in the group that believes what DVD has actually done is to undercut early enthusiasm for the Tower, turn a bunch of potential 150 point sales into 100 or 50 or 0 point sales, and push long-timers again toward resale. There was a 100 point resale CCV contract for sale yesterday at $115pp. I can confirm it sold full price--not to me (sadly). But $115pp at 100 points is almost exactly half the Poly price--for a similar MK resort with a LONGER time to expiration. Anyway, there's a ton of points in the Poly expansion. I'd say that all signs point toward much better incentives in the not too distant future--perhaps just before the holidays (as people are FAR more likely to make a big purchase before the holidays than in the months following) or once all those 60- and 90-day closings finally close. I think that one of those two paths is generally what we're on.

Would we consider CCV a a similar MK resort to Poly?

I personally would not.

 

[CastAStone]

Would we consider CCV a a similar MK resort to Poly?

I personally would not.

Why not? Just because you can’t see it from the CCV side? The monorail? If anything the transportation from CCV to and from MK is easier and more efficient than the transportation to and from Poly.

 

[Hubalorian]

I need someone to start at PolyTower and the other from CCV. When the clock strikes 8 AM, I need both to depart their respective resort lobbies to see who makes it to the magic kingdom first. This is the way!

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

Why not? Just because you can’t see it from the CCV side? The monorail? If anything the transportation from CCV to and from MK is easier and more efficient than the transportation to and from Poly.

Can't walk. I think that's a big one for many. Also, monorail to EPCOT as well.

I do love WL, though

 

[intamin]

I'm still in the group that believes what DVD has actually done is to undercut early enthusiasm for the Tower, turn a bunch of potential 150 point sales into 100 or 50 or 0 point sales, and push long-timers again toward resale. There was a 100 point resale CCV contract for sale yesterday at $115pp. I can confirm it sold full price--not to me (sadly). But $115pp at 100 points is almost exactly half the Poly price--for a similar MK resort with a LONGER time to expiration. Anyway, there's a ton of points in the Poly expansion. I'd say that all signs point toward much better incentives in the not too distant future--perhaps just before the holidays (as people are FAR more likely to make a big purchase before the holidays than in the months following) or once all those 60- and 90-day closings finally close. I think that one of those two paths is generally what we're on.

I think the relatively early information that the tower would be part of the same association also further undercut sales. I know we didn't exactly buy into the info during the annual association meeting at that time (or at least I didn't) but people definitely did once more info started coming out in March and resale was there to meet demand for buyers who had a hole burning in their pocket and for people who just didn't want to pay direct prices. Basically it was an entire year from the info that it would be the same association to the actual opening of the resort and over 9 months for sales to start.

Can't walk. I think that's a big one for many. Also, monorail to EPCOT as well.

I do love WL, though

I love WL, can't handle the boats. The smell of the engine + rocking + blazing sun make me feel nauseous by the time I get to MK unfortunately. If it weren't for this I'd probably pick CCV over Poly even though I do love the island vibes at Poly.

 

[AstroBlasters]

Why not? Just because you can’t see it from the CCV side? The monorail? If anything the transportation from CCV to and from MK is easier and more efficient than the transportation to and from Poly.

I think because it’s not off the 7 Seas Lagoon and I can’t walk or jump on the monorail to get there.

That may be a positive for many people, but I just don’t consider it a “similar MK resort” to GF, Poly, BLT.

 

[CWTC]

I think because it’s not off the 7 Seas Lagoon and I can’t walk or jump on the monorail to get there.

That may be a positive for many people, but I just don’t consider it a “similar MK resort” to GF, Poly, BLT.

This. We chose BLT for SAP+ points over CCV in part because of the ability to walk to a park and monorail access.

 

[CastAStone]

This. We chose BLT for SAP+ points over CCV in part because of the ability to walk to a park and monorail access.

I think of BLT as a different level of close than the other MK resorts because it is a legitimate walking distance. Given the amount of walking you’re going to be doing later in the day, IMO GF and especially Poly are walks for masochists (sorry duckberg).

All the others you wait for a while to get on a transportation device and are taken directly there. I’m sure the monorail from Poly is faster than the boat from WL but I’m also sure it’s a fairly trivial difference.

For me, at least at WL, you’re not competing with people from the TTC for space in the mornings.

But to each their own!

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

I think of BLT as a different level of close than the other MK resorts because it is a legitimate walking distance. Given the amount of walking you’re going to be doing later in the day, IMO GF and especially Poly are walks for masochists (sorry duckberg).

All the others you wait for a while to get on a transportation device and are taken directly there. I’m sure the monorail from Poly is faster than the boat from WL but I’m also sure it’s a fairly trivial difference.

For me, at least at WL, you’re not competing with people from the TTC for space in the mornings.

But to each their own!

Oh, don't be sorry. I love Poly but we own BLT.

 

[disneylandtour]

This. We chose BLT for SAP+ points over CCV in part because of the ability to walk to a park and monorail access.

The big trade off - pool/hot tub and boats vs monorail and steakhouse 71.

 

[Brian Noble]

I've gotten 5 cold calls from 2 different guides since sales started.

It is worth noting that DVC has been slightly more aggressive at marketing in general, not just around PIT. During my exchange this pasts February I got a text from the body snatchers to come down and "claim my free gift" about halfway through the week. I also vaguely recall someone getting called before an upcoming trip to schedule a 30 minute "update."

 

[Genie+]

I think of BLT as a different level of close than the other MK resorts because it is a legitimate walking distance. Given the amount of walking you’re going to be doing later in the day, IMO GF and especially Poly are walks for masochists (sorry duckberg).

All the others you wait for a while to get on a transportation device and are taken directly there. I’m sure the monorail from Poly is faster than the boat from WL but I’m also sure it’s a fairly trivial difference.

For me, at least at WL, you’re not competing with people from the TTC for space in the mornings.

But to each their own!

This needs to be prefaced by CCV is a fantastic option and we can’t wait to try it. In no way would I want to disparage it. The following is where I think Poly deserves extra credits.

The differences that matter tom me between CCV and Poly Studios:

Poly Longhouse 447sf, CCV 338sf. The Poly room works much better for us than standard studios like CCV/BC/BW.

Options to MK = Poly resort boat, Ferry, express monorail, resort monorail, torture walk lol, CCV resort boat.

Option to Epcot - 3 to 5 minute walk to EP Monorail, this is a bonus point none of the other MK resorts get. It is in very close 4th place to BC, BW and RIV. CCV bus.

Resort amenities - Poly has a ton and very easy access to Grand Flo who is queen in that department. I’d say it is about even Poly and CCV to get to Contempo. CCV has nice amenities - it has 5 very strong dining options. Poly has 10, Grand Flo 11. I’d also say Poly wins on Pools (I even prefer the set up to SAB). Grand Flo wins for as having the only Spa now, and it is walkable from Poly.

Poly to me is an all around elevated experience. We have a Sun-Fri trip booked in Feb at VGF for 18pts/nt. I’nm trying to trade into Poly for 20pts/nt. CCV is 17pts/nt. I’d take the other 2 for value/point, though if weekends were factored in the gap in points would get bigger.

CCV is great for saving points and my default is to always think in those terms first. I also think Poly and the other monorail resorts are ‘you get what you pay for’ in a good way. BIG caveat: I’ve not yet stayed at CCV but I have stayed at BWV/BCV many times and am guessing CCV is more akin to them. They are all great in so many ways, just that I really do see the point premium at Poly/VGF worthwhile and a very good bang for the buck through DVC.

 

[CastAStone]

This needs to be prefaced by CCV is a fantastic option and we can’t wait to try it. In no way would I want to disparage it. The following is where I think Poly deserves extra credits.

The differences that matter tom me between CCV and Poly Studios:

Poly Longhouse 447sf, CCV 338sf. The Poly room works much better for us than standard studios like CCV/BC/BW.

Options to MK = Poly resort boat, Ferry, express monorail, resort monorail, torture walk lol, CCV resort boat.

Option to Epcot - 3 to 5 minute walk to EP Monorail, this is a bonus point none of the other MK resorts get. It is in very close 4th place to BC, BW and RIV. CCV bus.

Resort amenities - Poly has a ton and very easy access to Grand Flo who is queen in that department. I’d say it is about even Poly and CCV to get to Contempo. CCV has nice amenities - it has 5 very strong dining options. Poly has 10, Grand Flo 11. I’d also say Poly wins on Pools (I even prefer the set up to SAB). Grand Flo wins for as having the only Spa now, and it is walkable from Poly.

Poly to me is an all around elevated experience. We have a Sun-Fri trip booked in Feb at VGF for 18pts/nt. I’nm trying to trade into Poly for 20pts/nt. CCV is 17pts/nt. I’d take the other 2 for value/point, though if weekends were factored in the gap in points would get bigger.

CCV is great for saving points and my default is to always think in those terms first. I also think Poly and the other monorail resorts are ‘you get what you pay for’ in a good way. BIG caveat: I’ve not yet stayed at CCV but I have stayed at BWV/BCV many times and am guessing CCV is more akin to them. They are all great in so many ways, just that I really do see the point premium at Poly/VGF worthwhile and a very good bang for the buck through DVC.

Yeah all that makes sense, my original question to AstroBlasters was why he doesn’t consider CCV an MK resort. Do you consider it one?

 

[Genie+]

Yeah all that makes sense, my original question to AstroBlasters was why he doesn’t consider CCV an MK resort. Do you consider it one?

Oh yeah, that’s tright For the most part no. I think BLT, VGF and Poly are the MK resorts. From those you can see MK, a clearer view of fireworks, 7 seas Lagoon and the iconic monorail. They are in a league of their own to me. (It’s the all around experience, on every level)

 

[hockeydad21]

Yeah all that makes sense, my original question to AstroBlasters was why he doesn’t consider CCV an MK resort. Do you consider it one?

I always say magic kingdom has 3.5 resorts/hotels. CCV/BRV/Wilderness Lodge are all great, but not having the monorail and walking path, whether you use them or not, is a major differentiator.