DVC Response About Ebay Commercial Sellers

[minnie61650]

And this is even better! You seem to be the same person

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=915256

Wow who'd have thunk it??

WTG
Great catch.

 

[keys2kingdom]

OK OP who wants to turn Arlene Wechsler of Lindenhurst NY over to the DVC police? Just kidding!! I've already spent WAY too much time on this thread.

 

[Dean]

A lot of people see this as the main point and not a minor one

Then complain to DVC to fix it, I wish they would as well. It is a minor point in my post though I realize the morphing is a major issue for many.

 

[Sammie]

I wonder if Jim Lewis being promoted from General Manager of DVC to Vice President of DVC has anything to do with it. Was there a VP of DVC before?

Yes George Aquel

 

[Mike]

True, but you and alwechsler seem to be using the same email address for replies. http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=915256
Why would alwechsler say that she has points available and then ask people to email her at mushpurple1@yahoo.com? Hmm Me thinks you slipped up and forgot to sign in to your other screen name before posting the 2nd reply. Smooth, very smooth.

This is too funny ..... I am speechless ...... I can't even find a good Fonzi quote to add

Someone is being naughty and that someone got BUSTED

What a maroon

This reminds me of a time back in high school when a friend copied a homework assignment from me ..... he copied everything including my name The next day the teacher wanted to know why I turned in two assignments and he had not turned in his assigment

Good work K2K

OK ... now back to the topic of the thread ......

 

[DVCconvert]

I was partly pulling Chuck's chain.

Hardly a statement befitting such an intellect...

 

[TCPluto]

And this is even better! You seem to be the same person

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=915256

Wow who'd have thunk it??

Truly Classic!!!
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mushpurple
Mouseketeer


Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 79 Points for Rent $11 per point

Any resort...

I can transfer or make a reservation. Please email me back at mushpurple1@yahoo.com.

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alwechsler
Earning My Ears


Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 71 I still have points available for 2005 or 2006 use year.

Please email me at mushpurple1@yahoo.com

 

[TCPluto]

Maybe you all think that you made some catch, but you are wrong. Not that you would believe me, but you are wrong. I just do not care and will not bother anymore.

mushpurple
Mouseketeer


Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 79 Points for Rent $11 per point

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Any resort...

I can transfer or make a reservation. Please email me back at mushpurple1@yahoo.com.





alwechsler
Earning My Ears


Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 71 I still have points available for 2005 or 2006 use year.

Please email me at mushpurple1@yahoo.com

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Maybe you somehow missed this MushP. This Alwechler person is trying to rent your points out, and posting YOUR OWN email for rental responses.

Not only has she (he?) hacked into your email account to retrieve these rental inquiries, but she has hacked into your DVC account! How did this go unnoticed??

The real answer, for all of us, is that you and AW are one in the same.... You self respond to your posts\with another user name to pump up your reputation and hopes of increasing buyer interest. Like someone else said, a classic (and illegal) schill game.

The gig's up, we got it.

 

[Mike]

The real answer, for all of us, is that you and AW are one in the same.... You self respond to your posts\with another user name to pump up your reputation and hopes of increasing buyer interest. Like someone else said, a classic (and illegal) schill game.

The gig's up, we got it.

Gee .... what do you think the odds are that this same scam is being run on smw's ebay account as well?!?!?!?

 

[tmt martins]

OK, you need to come clean and quit jerking everyones chain! You know full well that smw is a business because you have touted renting from them under their other name "funsavervacationhomes.com" AKA Arlene Wechsler AKA alwechsler on the DIS boards. Quit acting like you don't have any connection to smw, it's just silly! I'm starting to get a good laugh out of this.

Never mind I'm done my detecting if

 

[Johnnie Fedora]

No evidence of that. But I would guess that booking of DVC resorts with Central Reservations has slowed. Why pay rack rate with Disney, when you get the same unit dirt cheap by renting.

The real problem common in many rental transactions appears to be the foolish DVCers that are not charging enough for the deluxe accomodations they are renting.

Charging more for DVC rentals would:
1) likely send more timid renters directly to CRO (making Disney happy)

2) eliminate the "scoop-up and re-rent" commercial renter market...if you feed them they will keep coming back. (making DVCers happy)

3) reduce the "point morphing" as the profit is reduced in these transactions(making DVCers happy)

4) eliminate many of those "charity case" rental requests (making DVCers happy and making Disney happy b/c the "CCs" will now stay at a value or moderate)

5) allow members to feel better about their $$ decision to actually purchase DVC b/c so many renters are getting their home for an All-Star price. (making DVCers happy)

 

[2Princes2Princesses]

I looked at the auctions for smw, and most ended with buy it now. The one still there that didnt had 1 bid, so I dont see any pattern of shill bidding on Ebay. I had to look, I had someone shill bid on me and it really irked me. Fortunately, the woman actually used another account that had the same Ebay Id as her own, except 1 number was different. So ebay allowed me to cancel. I noticed immediately when I looked at the bid history. New account, too.

Anyway, I give people the benefit of the doubt, mush.....but your "alter ago" aweschler has the same email as you, and ODDLY the same last name as the person on Ebay renting DVC multiple times per year since 2004. The same person you are defending as not a commercial renter.

At the very least, I dont think commercial renters on EBay should be allowed to use Disney's promotional pictures. Gymboree pulls auctions that "borrow" their pics. And I think they should.

Many DVC auctions in the last couple of years. How big is this roof you needed repaired???

 

[2Princes2Princesses]

I thnk Disney has oversold Saratoga and has give away many more points in their incentives that can be used right away and that has greatly caused the problems with availability. A year and half 2 years ago availability was not a problem. Saratoga's introduction and subsequent selling has created an availability crunch. They were giving people points that they could use right away for a while since their buildings were not yet built in order to get people to buy it. In addition, most Saratoga owners are willing to stay there, but they would prefer to stay and Boardwalk, Beach Club or Wilderness Lodge.

BTW, I would like to commend you on the "when in a corner, blame it on SSR!" strategy here.

We actually prefer to stay at SSR. And you seem to be renting ressies there with no problems.

Our short trip at BWV is to give it a try. We probably won't bother with trying for BCV or VWL, they book so fast. I would like to try OKW, though. Looks like such a pretty resort.

And unless you own at every resort, which I do admit is possible, I am slightly suspicious the "morphing" is working pretty well for you.

 

[keys2kingdom]

How big is this roof you needed repaired???

Maybe SHE'S the one keeping BC/BCV from getting the shingles they need to repair their roof!! Her project is so huge there are no shingles left in Central Florida!

 

[keys2kingdom]

This is too funny ..... I am speechless ...... I can't even find a good Fonzi quote to add

How about just a simple "ehhhh" and a double !

Classic Arthur Fonzarelli

 

[diznyfanatic]

I often look at eBay to see what's going on there with the DVC resale market, and I've often come across smw's auctions, but never looked at them since I'm not in the market to rent.

Anyway, since reading this thread, I confess I looked because I was curious to see if any of the weeks that they have up for auction are some of the same weeks that we've been waitlisted for for quite some time since becoming members and closing on our contracts.

Logically, I know that they've paid for their points the same as we have, and they could be using them for their own vacations during peak times anyway, but I can't get past the notion that the large amount of PRIME weeks being scooped up by ONE person to rent commercially could be spread out among SEVERAL people on the waitlist if they weren't renting commercially.

I'm also hopeful that when we have the full advantage of the 11 month window, booking won't be the problem that it has been for our first two scheduled trips as members.

Does anyone know who's the entity referred to at the top of their Me page that begins with "Marketing for XXX, inc"? Am I missing something or is that a blatant reference to their Rental business?

 

[keys2kingdom]

Logically, I know that they've paid for their points the same as we have,

Or maybe not, maybe they have had distressed points transferred into their account and laundered them for their rental purposes. Until recently I did not understand this process and now that I do it infuriates me! But it also infuriates me that Disney is unable/unwilling to rectify this situation by fixing their transfer tracking system.

 

[disneygrandma]

There's been a lot of talk about the E-Bay auctions by smw. However, these recent auctions that I looked at are for yet unspecified dates that will be determined by what the renters want, and availability. There are other sellers, such as disdvcer and boardwalkmagic, that are selling actual reservations for "sold-out" weeks. When you read thru the auctions for disdvcer, you will see that there are even more prime dates that have been reserved.

I found it both interesting and amusing the way this board connected smw to another poster on this thread. However, I find it curious that not much has been said about these other 2 commercial renters who have snagged these prime weeks to sell for profit.

On a side note, I received an email of a posting to this thread that was done yesterday, and it named several people that post on this board and are said to rent commercially. This person also stated that DVC has them on a "watch list". Several hours later I received another email of a posting that said "What ever happened to today's post from the person that called out some fellow DISers as abusers to the system. It named names and was gone an hour later. Maybe the Rentees have more pull then we all think." This person was right, that 1st post is no longer listed, as far as I can see. But I know it did exist because I have it in my email.

 

[TCPluto]

Maybe you all think that you made some catch, but you are wrong.

Mushie (or Aweschler, whomever is reading), you've been power renting as a commercial enterprise with the DVC properties for five years, according to your Ebay feedback.

Your continued denial is disappointing....

 

[jdyer]

This reminds me of a time back in high school when a friend copied a homework assignment from me ..... he copied everything including my name The next day the teacher wanted to know why I turned in two assignments and he had not turned in his assigment

What a genius...sure to go far!