DVC point conversion vs cash inventory ?

[CarolMN]

I don't think it's a case of being "treated as well" as anybody else, it's a business decision. When a member trades out, that leaves DVC with a DVC room to rent for cash to reimburse the resort you are staying at. If there are too many trades, that may leave DVC with too much inventory that they cannot rent and therefore may end up taking a loss. Especially these days when CRO rooms are being heavily discounted, such as buy 4, get 3 free. It's unreasonable to expect DVC to take a loss so that members can have unlimited availability. As Chuck said, it's not all pixie dust and magic, they do have to turn a profit.

I spoke to my guide about not being able to reserve as all other guests. I also spoke to both guides at the Vacation as you Wish presentation in Boston two days ago. I also spoke to the presentation Director at the presentation and they all stated the same thing....There is no limit to the number of DVC reservations at any given time. They were not wishy-washy regarding their statements. They were absolute! There is NO limit.

With all due respect I disagree when you say I don't think it's a case of being treated as well. I was told at the time of the purchase of DVC that I could at any time make a reservation at any Disney hotel as long as there is availability. This was not similar to RCI or other programs that can be so easily cancelled.

The "picking the pocket" reference was in response to the poster saying that Disney was "picking their pocket" by charging those that use the internet. The point is, no matter what, we are paying for it, it isn't "free." None of the amenities are truly "free" they are included in resort operational costs, in the case of the internet, the cost was simply shifted from the individuals to the membership at large.




Would a guide even know the finer details of the interactive agreements between the Disney operating companies? That in itself seems pretty doubtful.

For a Disney resort to be booked on points, DVC has to give up a room at a DVC resort to recoup the contracted cost, so logically, the high occupancy of DVC resorts would tend to limit the ability to book outside the system.

I was told by member services that they are limited when I wanted to make a reservation at the Grand Californian at DL last fall. There was cash availability but not points. The original poster has also found this to be the case. Guides have been know to "stretch the truth", which is another topic - only trust what is in your written contract.

I think the limitation is a fairly recent thing - within the past 2 or 3 years. I remember being told by MS on more than one occasion (but it was several years ago) that there was no limit other than availability at the destination resort.

It makes a lot of sense to me that a limit has been imposed by DVC due to the current difficulty in renting DVC accommodations to the general public for cash. As DebbieB posted, there's heavy discounting going on right now for all the WDW resorts. Many regular posters here will recall the "uproar" over the free upgrades to SSR from the value resorts and the dismay over the "cheap" cash prices for for SSR and even OKW.

The limit may not be popular with some members, but it appears to be within the rules for DVC to establish one. I believe it is good for the system overall and very probably for Disney's bottom line as well.

 

[Dean]

I think the limitation is a fairly recent thing - within the past 2 or 3 years. I remember being told by MS on more than one occasion (but it was several years ago) that there was no limit other than availability at the destination resort.

It makes a lot of sense to me that a limit has been imposed by DVC due to the current difficulty in renting DVC accommodations to the general public for cash. As DebbieB posted, there's heavy discounting going on right now for all the WDW resorts. Many regular posters here will recall the "uproar" over the free upgrades to SSR from the value resorts and the dismay over the "cheap" cash prices for for SSR and even OKW.

The limit may not be popular with some members, but it appears to be within the rules for DVC to establish one. I believe it is good for the system overall and very probably for Disney's bottom line as well.

I've heard about limits on DCL cruises for many years (other than member cruises), the most common number thrown about has been 10%. My guess is there have been limits at all DC options all along at least for a portion of the time and that it has varied from one property to another.

 

[Sammie]

Disney will be no better than any other corporate entity which believes that the P in Profits supplants the first letter in People !

Well that pretty much describes the Disney of today and DVC.

The inventory for DVC guests to book a nonDVC resort, say the Grand Floridian, on points is definitely limited. The inventory for these rooms is not the same as Disney Resorts booking through the DRC. so it is very possible to have rooms available for cash with Disney and not have any to book with points with DVC. If any guide told anyone differently they were simply telling you want you wanted to hear and not what is accurate.

 

[Deb & Bill]

... If any guide told anyone differently they were simply telling you want you wanted to hear and not what is accurate.

And we know that never happens. Every single one of them are looking out for our interests and not to make a sale. Right?? (Not to say there aren't some darn good DVC Guides out there.)