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No, you definitely have the right to book a hard to get room, and you also have the right to rent it. I never said you didn't.
But the more times you do it, and the more frequently you do it, the more it may look like it is being used as part of a commercial enterprise in Disney's eyes. And they are the ones who ultimately get to decide when it crosses the line.
I think you ultimately agreed with me but just misunderstood what I was saying, because in the end you did say essentially what my point was, which is that whatever the pattern of rental activity looks like, it just depends on when Disney thinks it crosses the line, and most members wouldn't want to be on the other end of that.
They aren't going to give a hard rule "IE 20 reservations" again, because they know that serious renters will just try to find a way around it again and do everything they can to do the absolute most they can before crossing that boundary. It makes it easier if they can just say, "we know it when we see it"
Sure…I was just saying that I don’t think which room you books matters.
Since we all get to book any room as FCFS, and renters can fall under the personal use umbrella for acceptable guests, I do not believe DVC can use the type of room booked as a determining factor.
Whether I regularly rent a ton of SSR rooms or I rent a ton of VGF deluxe studios every year in December, my actions and purpose don’t change because one is hard to get and one is not.
If I spec rent a VGF studio every December and it’s my one and only rental per year, I simply cant be deemed as using my membership as a commercial enterprise when I rented something once, even yearly because I have the right to rent under the premise that it is a condominium and the condominium states apply.
If they try, IMO, it’s a blatant violation of the contract because we simply are not supposed to be limited unless we reach that commercial enterprise level. And yes, I know some do not agree
I think we are pretty much on the same page that it is about the volumes and patterns that trigger the thresholds.
My other thought is if what people have asserted is true…that all these high demand spec rentals are from a single owner or LLC whose has flown under the radar, then DVC stopping thos moghr lessen the number of these hard to get rooms that show up.
In reality though, you will still have your average owner picking up these rooms to rent.
I mentioned this earlier too..I can see the brokers going back to owners renting on demand instead of on spec, if for no other reason to hide the level of renting their company is doing for owners.
No one would know hard to get rooms were being rented on spec if they were not advertised.